karl malone a dirty player

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  1. zonebeast

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    do you think karl malone is play rude or dirt and without sportmanship
     
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    he just has some moves that when he started playing 400 years ago were considered playing "aggresive". he is not a dirty player as much as he is a throwback to a different time with different rules.
     
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    I think Malone is a dirty player w/o a doubt, he is up there with Artest. But if you really think about it, there are players that fold under fustration. If their getting bet or feel someone did something to them they will retaliate to the fullest.
     
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    without a doubt, malone is a dirty player. malone, rodman, and laimbeer are the dirtiest players of recent history and perhaps alltime IMO, stockton right up there w/ them.
     
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    back in laimbeers time he wasnt dirty, same with malone. but now malones a dirty ol' man.
     
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    He isn't dirty... He's a sneaky punk, I'll admit that, but he's no "dirty" player. He's just ol' School.
     
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    ^ What he said.

    For all the new-school people here.. if you watch the olden days of NBA, it was much more rough and tough back in the days. People w/o the ball used to be able to cut on a lane and if some weak puss like D.Fisher steps in the lane and falls down, no foul would be call. Instead, people would just point and laugh at Fisher for being a weak actor. This is why, by the way, I hate Derek Fisher / Vlade and all the other floppers. Weak-sauce players.
     
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    You can't compare Malone to the Bad Boy Pistons. They didn't lie about it or hide anything. You knew if you got in the lane you were gonna pay a price for it. You knew everytime you went against those guys that you were in for a rough night. They didn't hide behind anything or put up some kinda good guy image. They were what they were,The Bad Boys.

    Karl Malone is as dirty as they come because he does all the same things,all the dirty tricks then acts innocent when its directed his way. He throws those elbows with the intent to hurt someone then gets all offended when someone accuses him of playing dirty. He's not only dirty but a hypocrite. Same for Stockton.

    Accuse the Bad Boys of the same thing and they'd laugh and say "Yea,so?"

    Artest a dirty player? What a bad,unwarranted statement.
     
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    He does get a lot of cheap shots in. Just ask Tim Duncan he seems to elbow him in the head every time they play
     
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    It's part of his game plan, to get into your head. Just like Rodman did, but not as visual.
     
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    In order to be aggressive, sometimes you gotta play dirty. I think Malone was just trying to get revenge for his fellow team mate Fisher during the Minnesota series.
     
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    How's Stockton a dirty player?
     
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    yeh i agree that malone is from a diffrent era of players where alot of the cheap fouls of today arent called. But i woul have to say hes crafty, sneaky, and dirty. But hes a great player to watch he brings a a diffrent style to the game that makes the game unboring to watch.
     
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    I wouldnt call him a dirty player, it's not his fault his elbow's gotta mind of there own lol... Anyway's like someone else said earlier he's been balling so long and the rule's have changed so much over the amazingly long time span Malone has been playing. Malone is one of the best player's of all time, are you going to call him dirty for making his way up there?
     
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    I would call him a borderline dirt player. I've seem one too many instances where he gets the rebound and swings his elbows out wildly and hits someone in the face. He's injured many people like that and yet he keeps doing it which tells me that he intends to injure people.
     
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    I don't think he's the kind of person to injure people on purpose. He plays a tough physical game a la Bad Boys of the old Detroit Pistons. That's just his style and that is what most old school style is. It's legit back in the days, which is where he's from. So you can't just say he's a dirty player because everyone plays like that back in the days. Hell, back in the days they had "enforcers" on the team whose sole purpose was to rough the paint up and some even go as far as knocking a tooth or two out of the other team's star players.
     
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    Chukk told me a lot about how Malone and Stockton played dirty. I kinda agree, I also think this about Bowen and Artest and Rodman. Not because they're bad guys, but I myself consider great defensive players dirty players. They get into your head, they annoy you with contact, it's legal and illegal at times, but either way it gets to them, that alone should make you dirty.
     
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    Of course Malone is a dirty player.

    Does this ring a bell to anyone?
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    I was reading about Malone's earlier days, and I came across this :<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">When Karl Malone was still in college, he threw an elbow that sent Rice center Dave Ramer to the hospital and ended his career.

    From the December 6, 1984 Washington Post:

    Rice junior center Dave Ramer will undergo reconstructive surgery Friday in Houston to repair multiple injuries suffered in what Coach Tommy Suitts says was an intentional elbowing incident in Monday's game against Louisiana Tech. Ramer has a depressed cheekbone, fractures above and below his right eye socket and a collapsed sinus after the incident involving Louisiana Tech's Karl Malone.

    Malone had gone up for a rebound and came down swinging his elbows. Ramer was unfortunate enough to be in the same area code. The blow shattered Ramer's cheekbone, and he went down screaming in pain. Malone just looked at him and walked away. Malone's coach was so appalled by Malone's behavior that he went out on the court and told Malone to go back and show some decency and concern. Let me repeat that for emphasis:

    Malone's coach made him go back out on the court and act like he cared.

    It was obvious that he didn't. Malone muttered a forced apology, but of course Ramer was in no condition to hear it.
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    Whether it's his famous swinging elbows, or hitting random players, he is a dirty player.
     
  19. SupraJames

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    There's a difference between playing "dirty" and playing "rough" or "physical". "Dirty" is when you go out there and do whatever you need to win including hurting other people intentionally. Now playing "rough" is just being physical, doing everything in your power to win and in the process, might hurt other people but NOT intentionally. That's how I see it at least.

    Now in Malone's case, based on what I've seen from his interviews and his character (he's a stand up citizen, likes to fish, owns a ranch, nature loving guy I guess.. and doesn't booze out or party and instead works out in the gym) I don't think he's a dirty player. Rough more likely.
     
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    Malone is a problem when he's losing. He's one of those "sore losers". He doesn't like to lose, and when he's losing, he likes to hurt people.
     

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