<div class="quote_poster">Quoting All-Star:</div><div class="quote_post">Allen Iverson? This guy makes shots all the time. I disagree like crzy on that one. Also Jerry Stackhouse has a pretty good jumpshot.</div> Iverson doesnt shoot a high percentage though, if he could improve it...he wouldnt have to drive the lane as much and he could play longer...and Stack jumper is broken, most of his pts are from either driving or the FT line. He shoots too many bricks, he had one game where he threw up 4 bricks, I mean with like 12 seconds on the shot clock too...just completely missed the rim, hit all backboard.
Iverson and Vince are easily the best jump shooters when they're unstoppable while on fire, no exaggeration.
anyone while on fire is easily the best jumpshooter. quentin richardson and stephen jackson are some examples. but in terms of consistently hitting their jumpers, neither AI, vince, q-rich, or jackson fall in that category.
Yeah Vince Carter is one great example kids with broken shots have to look up to... VC was shooting less than 29% from 3s his first year, but I remember even then he managed to knock down a winning 3 at Madison Square Garden vs the Knicks... by second year, (phew what a workout) his three accuracy jumped to better than 42%, that's better than Reggie Miller. That year, he won 2 games with a three pointer: vs. Celtics and Clippers. I really want to see Amare improve his eight-ten footers, he would be fantastically unstoppable! Darius Miles seems to improve his shooting percentage after he arrives to Portland, but we want more!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting "PS3":</div><div class="quote_post">Og15 and the other guy its DWYANE not Dwayne or Dwanye... Thought i would just point that out. Didnt B-Diddy have a bad shot when he came into the league?? what about Rafer Alston, but Skip has improved his so im happy.</div> What are you talking about, I suggest you read my posts again You're correcting me when I just said in the previous post: <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Dwyane not Dwayne </div> Then you tell me its Dwyane, what??? Richard Jefferson's jumper has also failry improved.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Iverson and Vince are easily the best jump shooters when they're unstoppable while on fire, no exaggeration.</div> What does this mean? Peja when on fire is the best shooter. Billups while on fire is the best shooter. This doesn't make any sense. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah Vince Carter is one great example kids with broken shots have to look up to... VC was shooting less than 29% from 3s his first year, but I remember even then he managed to knock down a winning 3 at Madison Square Garden vs the Knicks... by second year, (phew what a workout) his three accuracy jumped to better than 42%, that's better than Reggie Miller. That year, he won 2 games with a three pointer: vs. Celtics and Clippers.</div> Nice post. Vince is definately a model for guys who have the athletic talents to play but need to work on the other parts of there game. Amare is another big guy who would just be dominant with a jumpshot.
If you Quentin Richardson could develop a consistent J...which it looks like he is...he could be a star in this league, he is the best rebounding guard, he can post up his defenders because of his size, all he needs is the ability to hit the 18ft Jumper constantly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting jiggax23:</div><div class="quote_post">anyone while on fire is easily the best jumpshooter. quentin richardson and stephen jackson are some examples. but in terms of consistently hitting their jumpers, neither AI, vince, q-rich, or jackson fall in that category.</div> Vince Carter usually naturally consistently hits his jumpers when he's approaching the "fire" phase. Iverson is never naturally a consistent jump shooter. Kurt Thomas is a pretty consistent natural jump shooter.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting PupMelo:</div><div class="quote_post">That year, he won 2 games with a three pointer: vs. Celtics and Clippers. </div> I vividly remember watching both of those game winners while my family was going crazy over them. Just to mention that Carter caught an alleyoop from half court with one hand, which was out of his reach, but he actually caught the ball and just tomahawked the ball in that very same game versus the Clippers. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">What does this mean? Peja when on fire is the best shooter. Billups while on fire is the best shooter. This doesn't make any sense. </div> Actually it does make sense. You just re-stated my point.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter usually naturally consistently hits his jumpers when he's approaching the "fire" phase. Iverson is never naturally a consistent jump shooter. Kurt Thomas is a pretty consistent natural jump shooter.</div> anyone who is on fire or starts to catch fire will "consistently" hit their jumpers at that moment. but in terms of consistently hitting it for the season, vince does not fall in that category, nor does iverson. the point is, anyone can catch fire, but give me someone who can knock em down night in and night out, such as richard hamilton or sam cassell, rather than a guy who needs to catch fire to have a consistent jumper for a night or two, such as vince, iverson, q-rich, etc..
I don't think Vince's J should be compared to Iverson and Q-Rich, nothing against them but he's a much better shooter than those two. He's no Rip Hamilton, Michael Redd or Ray Allen with his mid-range J, but it's pretty good.
I'd have to say Ben Wallace, TJ Ford, Boozer. Supposedly a lot of Pacers spring into my mind also, along with better defense and rebounding ability, the likes of Tinsley, Harrington and Jones could become pretty good players had they had a consistent jump shot at mid range. Boozer for the most part since he lacks defense. He has the heart, effort and hustle, but no true defensive threat, stats show he's good, the double double, but those're simply stats. He can score, but if he could "really" score, he'd be one heck of a something. Lastly are Rookies, Bosh and Wade. Both are great with good games and heads on their shoulders, both with great potential, current abilities and athleticism. They would dominate if they could shoot. Bosh when stronger and bulked up, maybe he could become like Odom. As for Wade, he'd simply be a better version of himself, a new generation. Speaking of Odom, now there's a talented player with potential. He's fast, an offensive threat, a great defender and rebounder. An awesome scorer, it's just that he isn't all that consistent on the mid range jumper. Same goes for Francis and B Dizzle in the sense that they're scoring machines with inconsistency and the tendency to throw it up. If inconsistency and forcing as well as bad shot selection is an issue then KVH and Walker can also be mentioned here. They simply definite those ultra bad traits in players.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually it does make sense. You just re-stated my point.</div> You had no point, it was dumb. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">anyone who is on fire or starts to catch fire will "consistently" hit their jumpers at that moment. but in terms of consistently hitting it for the season, vince does not fall in that category, nor does iverson. the point is, anyone can catch fire, but give me someone who can knock em down night in and night out, such as richard hamilton or sam cassell, rather than a guy who needs to catch fire to have a consistent jumper for a night or two, such as vince, iverson, q-rich, etc.. </div> Nice post, I completely agree.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">The guys that could benefit from a consistent jump shot most are the slashers who play the shooting guard and small guard positions. They do not have the height to post up, and their position forces them to stay on the perimeter. Now, they do not have a good outside shot, so defenders tend to play them for the drive, thus giving them space to shoot. They take a shot and miss. If they can sink that perimeter shot at least 5 out of 8 times, defenders will be forced to guard them close, which means they can beat them off the dribble with their quickness. Guys whose games are what I just stated: Jefferson Wade Ford Richardson Eddie Robinson Ricky Davis</div> Ricky Davis shot..48% for the season.. Dwayne Wade shot 45% for the playoffs I think thats pretty decent...
Dwyane Wade shot 45% driving to the basket (not only but he was a slasher), Ricky Davis' jumpshot is actually not bad. Wade's isn't bad, but if he improves his range and shot it would make it een ewasier for him to drive because people would have to come andguard him on the perimeter.
in certain cases, people who have a high % in field goal are not always that good of a shooter. Most players would get better if they had the benefit of the jump shot. Dwayne wade is just arookie so i can really see him improve. Most of his points come from driving in the lane and slashing. Kobe bryant is a prime example of determination. He came into the league with no jumpshot (ex. He got 2 airballs in the final 2 minutes or so of the playoffs leading to their elimination), but now he has vastly improved in his jump shot, with a decent mid-range J. He also improved with his 3 point shot, even though his percentages weren't/aren't that bad.
