Homosexuals in the NBA

Discussion in 'NBA General' started by Rudeezy, Jun 11, 2004.

  1. Ice

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">How is God dead? He's a divine spirit

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    Oops, my bad. Haha.
     
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    All men are created equal. ?

    Says who?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Einitials:</div><div class="quote_post">All men are created equal. ?

    Says who?</div>

    Thomas Jefferson said that
     
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    o you mean Thomas jefferson, the slave owner.
     
  5. Ice

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Einitials:</div><div class="quote_post">All men are created equal. ?

    Says who?</div>
    Declaration of Independence

    It doesn't mean all people are alike, because we know that everyone is unique; but we do know one thing: All people are born with equal rights.

    I really don't know enough about god to continute this god debate. But I'll still stick with what I said before in that I could care less if someone is homosexual - it's just better to stay in the closet with todays society.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This is not true. If people said God wouldn't accept someone because they dated out of their race than they did not have the spirit of God in them, they were racists. That is a misconception.</div>
    I know a lot of racists.
     
  6. notmuchgame

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Einitials:</div><div class="quote_post">o you mean Thomas jefferson, the slave owner.</div>

    yup, that's him.....and the man who freed the slaves is rumored as a bi-sexual (lincoln) ...
     
  7. Rudeezy

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    Yes, everyone is CREATED equal. From than on, you choose what and who you want to be.
     
  8. Ice

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes, everyone is CREATED equal. From than on, you choose what and who you want to be.</div>
    Still don't like it.

    Thats saying these gays aren't equal to us just because we like the opposite sex.

    And does that mean girls considered lesbians for having 3somes with their boyfriend?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">Still don't like it.

    Thats saying these gays aren't equal to us just because we like the opposite sex. </div>We are all still equal. My explanation was a bad one. Never have a said that I was any better than gays. All I am saying is that their lifestyle is immoral in the eyes of the Lord. God is not accepting of the lifestyle. He still loves us, despite our immortalities.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    And does that mean girls considered lesbians for having 3somes with their boyfriend?</div>I dont' see the relevance of this. We are already getting a bit off topic.[​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">We are all still equal. My explanation was a bad one. Never have a said that I was any better than gays. All I am saying is that their lifestyle is immoral in the eyes of the Lord. God is not accepting of the lifestyle. He still loves us, despite our immortalities.</div>
    Damn, god is confusing.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I dont' see the relevance of this. We are already getting a bit off topic.[​IMG]</div>
    Well then, we can talk about that off the board :mrgreen:
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">Damn, god is confusing.</div>I think I am the one confusing you here. :P

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Well then, we can talk about that off the board :mrgreen:</div>That we will.
     
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    1. If your <strike>queer</strike> your <strike>queer</strike>....
    2. People discriminate in the U.S.A. because they are not like everyone else....
    3. To be normal in the U.S.A. you have to be like everyone else....
    4. I once saw someone throwing things at a homosexual because they acted wrongly towards them which is wrong...
    This is my question: Why dont people leave the <strike>queers</strike> alone... wtf did they do to you?....

    <font size="1"><font color="Blue">Watch the language, some might find that offensive</font></font>
     
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    Bottom line: We're all the same, we just have different interests. Whether it's sexual, religious, political or whatever. As long as we're not hurting other people none of the particulars of those differences matter. And really it's only the fundamentalist religious types who force the issue and hate on people because they're different.

    As for basketball, I could care less if none, or any or all the players were gay. However it is an unfortunate reality that the players, coaches, etc aren't all that accepting. Hopefully when my kids (or maybe their kids) are watching basketball, by that time it truly won't matter.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting FrankWilliams:</div><div class="quote_post">
    This is my question: Why dont people leave the queers alone... wtf did they do to you?....</div>Do they want to be left alone? What are with all the gay parades than?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post">Do they want to be left alone? What are with all the gay parades than?</div>


    Surely you don't see that as an attack on.. well on anything? How is it different from christmas or easter parades or religious observations or the rotary club having a public event. The KKK however, their parades are designed to promote their percieved superiority and to hurt people. I don't think gay pride parades have anything to do with that mentality.
     
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    Well what is the point of the gay parades?
     
  17. McGrady#1

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    OFF topic ...Kinda

    Ice, and others interested.

    i'm assuming you haven't really had much contact with chrurch or any christians.
    I used a bit of christian slang and forgot that some people might not know/understand what i mean. I'll try explain it here for you.

    - what is Sin?

    Sin is something that goes against God's will, for example; theft, self inflicted bodily harm (for instance suicide and self mutilation) homosexuality and soo many other sins. (a good guideline of what is/isn't sin are the 10 commandments)

    - The reason why you shouldn't take you sin to the grave:

    Jesus is the mediator between us and God (yes God, Jesus and the holy spirit are all one entity but there are three parts, God the Father, Jesus the son, and of course the Holy Spirit.)
    sin and God cannot exist together and hence the fact that sinners oould not go to heaven. But because he loves each of us and desires for us to be with him for eternity, he Sent his son Jesus to earth to defeat sin. The way he did this was to lead a sinless life and be crucified on the cross by doing that he was able to accept the sin of the entire world and and take the punishment we deserve.
    When he rose from the Dead sin was defeated.
    If you do not accept that Jesus died for you; then he will not mediate for you in the last hour when you are judged by God, he will see you as a sinner and turn you away from heaven.
    Another point to make is that, if you believe Jesus to be your savious and are grateful for the gift sent by God wouldn't you want to do your best to show him your appreciation?
    Just the same as if someone had bought you a car, would you not show them your gratitude? same kind of idea with God.

    - how does God view sins?

    Sins are all the same in God's eyes. telling a white lie, and committing murder might seem like a HUGE difference to you or me, but in actually fact God sees it as purely disobedience to him (sin).

    - Who is the holy spirit and what does he/it do:

    For those uninformed, the holy Spirt is part of the trinity sent to each believer and dwells inside of you.
    It has been given to help us in our daily lives, for the likes of resisting sin, evangelising (telling other people about God), and carrying out day to day things.
    To recieve the HolySpirit all you have to do is Confess to God he is Lord (via Pray), believe Jesus died for your sins, and ask for forgiveness.

    - Are all men equal?

    This is a tough one, but yes all men are created with equal responsibilities and equal opportunity to accept God/Jesus/Holy spirit.
    I'll find some more solid info on this if you all like.

    Regards,
    Jon.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">Oops, my bad. Haha.</div> You should be happy your not getting banned for immature comments liek that crap right there. Some of us here do have beliefs so don't try to make our beliefs look stupid alright man? That crap was not funny at all, so don't post BS like that.... You really offended some of us.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SuperMan:</div><div class="quote_post">You should be happy your not getting banned for immature comments liek that crap right there. Some of us here do have beliefs so don't try to make our beliefs look stupid alright man? That crap was not funny at all, so don't post BS like that.... You really offended some of us.</div>
    I don't know anything about religion - I've already said that a couple of times. I'm trying to learn about this stuff because it might actually help me. And no, I really thought he died. Sorry if I offended you but I'm dumber than dirt on this subject.

    Most of you guys have been pretty nice regarding this issue - and explaining it to me. Thanks.

    And I think it's best I stop asking questions that way I don't offend other members.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SuperMan:</div><div class="quote_post">You should be happy your not getting banned for immature comments liek that crap right there. Some of us here do have beliefs so don't try to make our beliefs look stupid alright man? That crap was not funny at all, so don't post BS like that.... You really offended some of us.</div>

    Hey man don't hate on people for asking questions, wheres your tolerance and willingness to explain what you belief to others?
    I don't think his intention was to be offensive.
    I haven't taken offense to anything he has said/asked and i don't understand why you have. obviously i am not you and i can't speak for you, so i won't.

    i think its good he has the guts to ask questions at the risk of sounding stupid or uninformed. and i commend him. other members are probably just reading on hoping he'd ask questions they are thinking but are worried about posting. (PS i encourage you to post if you have queries, if not you can PM me)

    regards,
    Jon
     

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