Believe It or Not: LAKERS Complaining about Officiating

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  1. Ice

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The Los Angeles Lakers trail Detroit Pistons 2-1 in the best-of-seven series, and they're lucky not to be down 3-0 in an NBA Finals that has defied expectations. Struggling to score against the league's best defensive team, adept only at shrugging off their losses, the Lakers almost appear to be in denial.

    Lakers coach Phil Jackson is blaming it all on the officials. </div>
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    Amazing.

    This, coming from the same Laker team that critiques the other teams for making the same statements.

    How is this the officals fault? Is it because Kobe has a rough shooting night(S)? Or the fact that he settles for his jumper? What about Karl Malone - Should he get the whistle because he's playing on one leg? Then theres Gary Payton - he's a veteran being schooled by Billups nightly, just give him the whistle a time or two. [​IMG] I could go on for days because LA is being outplayed in every aspect. NO excuses.

    The simple fact is, people aren't giving the Pistons the credit they deserve. Yes - just because the precious Lakers are down 3-1, doesn't mean it's over. However, this could have easily been a sweep, and you Laker fans aren't even giving praise to the worthy team. Isn't this the same team that insults the other teams for having 'low-class' fans?

    But honestly, what should I expect? All I ever read are biased remarks towards the Lakers. And when someone says something like this - I lose a lot of respect for ALL Laker fans - even if you don't say crap like that.
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">*I hate Ben Wallace at times because his fro looks alot better than his free-throw stroke.

    *I hate Rasheed Wallace because he takes almost as many shots as he does drugs.

    *I hate Chauncey because he has more tatoos than he does fouls called on him in this series.

    *I hate Darko because he is overrated.</div>
    Comments like that are so stupid - but thanks for the laughs! Last I checked Shaq wasn't too hot as the line either. And drugs are the last thing on LA's mind. Their entire team could be rebuilding next year. Chauncey didn't get a tattoo right after he was up for rape charges. Whoops cheap shot, but so was your entire post. As for Darko - how can he be overrated when he doesn't even play? Sorry, nevermind - he did play in game 3 in the final minutes. Because the Pistons were blowing out the Lakers :mrgreen:

    Heres a little something I stumbled across

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    <font size="1">(Remember, this is all in good fun)</font>
     
  2. TimFlem

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ICE:</div><div class="quote_post">The simple fact is, people aren't giving the Pistons the credit they deserve. Yes - just because the precious Lakers are down 3-1, doesn't mean it's over. However, this could have easily been a sweep, and you Laker fans aren't even giving praise to the worthy team. Isn't this the same team that insults the other teams for having 'low-class' fans?</div>
    Exactly. I think it's not people I think it's just Lakers fans. The Pistons are showing the world that a team in the east can contend and possibly beat the Lakers or any another good team in the East. They deserve some respect if you ask me instead of these insulting immature comments
    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">*I hate Ben Wallace at times because his fro looks alot better than his free-throw stroke.

    *I hate Rasheed Wallace because he takes almost as many shots as he does drugs.

    *I hate Chauncey because he has more tatoos than he does fouls called on him in this series.

    *I hate Darko because he is overrated.</div>
    Now tha's just wrong. If someone said stuff like that about Kobe, Shaq, GP,Malone,Fisher,Walton ,George,Fox, or anyone else on the Lakers roster they would get ridiculed and tortured in words from Lakers fans. LOL.
     
  3. mydi619

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    Don;t worry, I'd rather like the Pistons be seen as the underrated underdogs than be like the overrated Lakers. Obviously, the Lakers will complain about officiating but remember two years ago when the Kings compained about it in Game 6 (which was poorly officiated, for sure), the Lakers made fun of them, especially Shaq... calling them crybabies and Queens. Remember? The kings didnt even cry and I've seen many pics of the Lakers crying...
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    Man, is he okay? Don't tell me he's just wiping his sweat off or rubbing his non-watery eyes.
     
  4. Jumpman

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    To tell you the truth, that was so low of Phil Jackson. He has no right to blame the officials. Its the Pistons great defense and offense that won them the games. Not the officials. As far as I seen the LakeShow isn't their old self.
     
  5. KS1

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    And this team has 4 hall of famers! A coach with how many rings?! Lmao
    The Lakers are little crybabies and Phil is babying them. I heard something on this yesterday on the radio. But yeah I posted this before, THE PISTIONS GETS NO CREDIT, AND IF THE LAKERS ARE PLAYING BAD, ITS NOT THEIR FAULT, THEY ALWAYS BLAME IT ON SOMETHING ELSE!!!!! Maybe they should blame Darko for not playing too or Larry Brown being a superior coach, Ben's fro, Billups schooling Payton, Prince's out of no where shots and blocks, Hamilton's goggles, Rasheed's past, Kobe's trial, Malone's age and knee, Payton's mitten, not starting Fisher, Playing George too much...None of this is anyone else's fault but the Lakers.
     
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    Prediction : Because the Lakers are such crybabies and Phil Jackson is the most highly respected coach in the game, don't be suprised that the refs try to swing the game in LA's direction in game 5. If Detroit is the real thing they will be poised enough to overcome this.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">Prediction : Because the Lakers are such crybabies and Phil Jackson is the most highly respected coach in the game, don't be suprised that the refs try to swing the game in LA's direction in game 5. If Detroit is the real thing they will be poised enough to overcome this.</div>
    I think so as well. Besides, I think Game 5 will be fixed because the series HAS to go to at least Game 6 and in L.A.

    That is just a statement, please don't get on my ass about it if I'm wrong.
     
  8. olskoolfunktitude

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    i think your right. the league likely wont allow the lakers to go down in 5. and once theyre back in LA its a whole new serries
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">Prediction : Because the Lakers are such crybabies and Phil Jackson is the most highly respected coach in the game, don't be suprised that the refs try to swing the game in LA's direction in game 5. If Detroit is the real thing they will be poised enough to overcome this.</div>


    David Stern is going to be behind it, he's favorite team is the LAKERS
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  10. Detroit07

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    I don't think the league wants the series to be over in 5, but I do think that Detroit is too good of a team to let the officials dictate their play (but the lakers have shown that a "bad call" or two can lose them a series). I would like to say that Larry Brown has a LOT more class than Phil Jackson. On a Detroit radio station, they played an interview asking why they didnt foul kobe in the last few seconds of game two to which Larry Brown replied "We're not that kind of team, we don't play that kind of basketball." Now, whether or not you believe that a foul on Kobe would or would not be sportsmanlike, I think the fact that the coach will put his personal morals and beliefs before a win shows that he has his priorities straight. I'm glad one coach wouldn't sell his soul for an NBA title (*cough* or a handful of titles). Phil Jackson is making exscuses because he has shown that he isn't that great of a coach. Hell, make me the coach of a team with 4 hall of famers and I'll win a few rings.

    It's truly sad to see Coaches who are not man enough to admit when they do something wrong. I'm glad that younger kids will not be looking up to horrible role models like Kobe Bryant and Phil Jackson any longer. I would include Shaq for being over-confident, but I think that Shaq is an ok guy (Even though he thinks he's the best thing ever and the fact that I think he plays for the money).
     
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    whenever you lose you get angry and say a lot of stuff that comes across as crying because when nothing is going right for you, you can pick out anything and blame it on that. losing makes everything that the other team did right, somehow not be right and the losing team is getting the short end of the stick. if you were on the lakers with 4 hall of famers (eventhough they dont play like a team) and were hands down favorite to win the series and are now down 3-1, i'd be hella pissed too.

    i wouldnt consider what phil is doing to be low or cheap or even crying. he is using the media to his advantage. he isnt the first coach that has done this. larry brown tries to complain to the media about the officals for rasheed's case. when coaches blame the officals in the media and put the pressure on them and make them feel that they are giving way too many calls to detroit, then the officials will give more than half to the lakers the next game. that's usually how it goes.
     
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    Hahaha. Is this the real Jackson? What happened to the Zen Master? Is this the best he could come up with with his Zen techniques? Blame the officials?

    Also, Shaq blaming the officials as well? With him throwing bodies all around?

    This is what you can expect when you have Malone in the lineup. This guy always feel like all calls are against him. It's very rare that you see him not complain about a call against him.
     
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    Yeah, That's really contradiction at it's best.

    Of all people, Phil Jackson says that? Was Jackson watching the game? I am sure Phil Jackson never gets a call. Seriously, this is probably Jackson in the hot seat. He has never been in this postion. No one has ever won a Finals game after being down 3-1. Jackson has never lost a Finals period. And maybe all he can do is blame something because his team is on an eventual doom train. What was to be his best team ever, Four Hall of Famers, 70 and 12 Season record, Another Championship. Maybe he is feeling heat from people if he doesn't win this. It could be deemed as the easiest Championship to win, and he didn't get it done.

    I am sure I could think of some idea's on why Jackson was telling the truth, but I am not interested playing the Devil's A on this..

    One thing that makes me mad though. Why does the "League" Have to step in and tell the refs to call fouls on a team they don't want to win just so they can get more games and more money. If it's ment to be, let the teams play it out, call what you see. And let the deserving team win, heck with your 7 Games, and all the money. Let the teams play, and let's get a true winner in the true amount of games. I sure do wan't to see more basketball, excitement, and more Game 7's. But if it ain't ment to be, it ain't ment to be.
     
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    Actually I honestly do believe the NBA is fixed on calls. I've been a big fan of the game since I was little, but in the recent years you can't help but notice the swings of officiating. One game it is all to one team, sometimes a whole series.. whereas sometimes it's totally opposite every game. I'm not talking about the Lakers, or even about this series for the matter, but I really think the officiating is a little rigged. It just seems that whenever something the NBA doesn't want to see happens the officiating changes. In game 3 for the Lakers vs. Spurs series I noticed a huge change in getting to the line also, in the first two games San Antonio was getting to the line with ease 12 more than the Lakers in game 2, then the Lakers get to the line 18 times more than San Antonio in game 3. Sure it's a different game and all, but the swings just seem too inconsistent for a team as consistent as the Spurs.

    I'm sure a lot of you won't like what I've said, but I don't care anymore because that's how I feel. If you disagree, well that's your opinion and this is mine.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually I honestly do believe the NBA is fixed on calls. I've been a big fan of the game since I was little, but in the recent years you can't help but notice the swings of officiating. One game it is all to one team, sometimes a whole series.. whereas sometimes it's totally opposite every game. I'm not talking about the Lakers, or even about this series for the matter, but I really think the officiating is a little rigged. It just seems that whenever something the NBA doesn't want to see happens the officiating changes. In game 3 for the Lakers vs. Spurs series I noticed a huge change in getting to the line also, in the first two games San Antonio was getting to the line with ease 12 more than the Lakers in game 2, then the Lakers get to the line 18 times more than San Antonio in game 3. Sure it's a different game and all, but the swings just seem too inconsistent for a team as consistent as the Spurs.

    I'm sure a lot of you won't like what I've said, but I don't care anymore because that's how I feel. If you disagree, well that's your opinion and this is mine.</div>
    I don't like what you said. But you are completely right. I hate the fact that I have to say that what you said makes me mad. The fact that NBA Officials and the Front Office changes the momentum of a series is pretty terrible. That's one flaw of the NBA. If they got a couple things done over, and did not disrupt a playoff series because they wan't 7 games or help a different team to win the Championship. They would be the best League and Management in all of Sports.
     
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    This is not surprising, Phil Jackson has always complained about officiating. Blaming it for the Lakers losing is ridiculous, but a job of a coach is to point out inconsistencies in hopes of getting officials to give them one or two calls during a game. There have been some ridiculous calls in the game, but they don't have a major impact unless a team lets it. For example Phil Jackson getting T'd up for being out of the coaching box. I haven't seen that call made for over 5 years, and found it ironic since Larry Brown is at halfcourt for most of the game. However, it's just 1 point and is not detremental to the outcome of a game unless the Lakers allow it to be. Once a team starts looking for excuses they've lost mentally and won't be able to recover. The reason I can't stand the Kings is because of them blaming officiating when they lost. I hate to see Phil Jackson going down the same path. He's being outcoached by Larry Brown, and his players aren't responding to him.
     

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