Jazz make Pavlovic available

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  1. Accord

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    Just released OFFICIAL list of Jazz players that have been left UNPROTECTED

    In the official list of every unprotected player in the league in the upcoming Charlotte Bobcats expansion draft which can be viewed by clicking HERE, the Jazz players which have been left unprotected are Curtis Borchardt and Aleksandar Pavlovic.

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  2. og15

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    I think the Bobcats will take Pavlovic, I don't see why not, they might not keep him on the team, but it gives them options.
     
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    I don't mind leaving Curtis Borchardt unprotected, but Sasha? He has only played one season, which wasn't the greatest by any stretch but there is a lot of potential in him and he could break out within a few seasons. If he gets taken by Charlotte, Sergei Monya should be picked. However Mo Williams is protected, which is a good move by Utah as he would of been taken otherwise.
     
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    They won't take Sasha, theres more other better people on the list.
     
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    I really hate the idea of leaving Sasha unprotected.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">They won't take Sasha, theres more other better people on the list.</div>


    Yea but they can take one player from every team, and their's nothing restricting them from taking him from the Jazz
     
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    Why in the world would Utah leave Sasha unprotected for the expansion draft? I have a lot of respect for how the Jazz run their organization but this has to be the most surprising move that I have ever seen them do. There is no doubt in my mind that Sasha will be picked up by the Bobcats.

    If there is some type of impending inside deal with the Bobcats so that the Jazz can move up in the draft then I would understand Utah "shopping" Sasha around (not leaving him unprotected). However, the Jazz will not be getting compensated at all if the Bobcats decide to pick him. In essence they are giving up on a 20 year old 6'8'' shooting guard who can shoot the lights out and is courageous. He has also shown that he can put the ball on the floor and is very competitive on the defensive end (although inexperienced and foul prone). I literally can't believe that Kevin O'Connor would do this. Mo Williams is really an undersized shooting guard and if it were up to me, I would take my chances on the Bobcats not picking him. I'm not sure whether or not Michael Ruffin could have been left unprotected but if so he would have been a much better selection than Pavlovic.

    Sasha has a world of potential b/c of his age and his fearlessness. Gordan Giricek may be better right now but I do not think that he will be better than Sasha two or three years from now. You can't just give your number one draft pick away after one season. Sasha definitely needs to be more consistent, but to get consistent production one needs consistent minutes. This move will definitely come back to haunt Utah (especially if they can't resign Giricek). Sergei Monya is a very good prospect, but at the same time the Jazz are pretty solid at shooting guard/small forward position. The teams obvious needs are in the frontcourt and to just give up a player like Sasha shows me that the Jazz are looking to upgrade at every position.
     
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    There must be a deal/agreement in the works with the Bobcats, otherwise this makes absolutely no sense.
     
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    Sasha hasn't shown that he can be a starter in the league yet, or even a scoring role player. He is however, a rookie with a lot of potential. They should of given him a few more seasons before they judge how good he is. A lot of the international stars didn't contribute much in their first season. He can shoot the lights out (although his shooting % wouldn't show it), and wont shy away from the ball. He plays on confidence, and he is a rookie so he probably wouldn't have much. During the year, Jerry Sloan publically said about a lack of effort from Sasha, I'm beginning to think there are a few more arguments between Sloan and Sasha than we know about. But I don't support the move at all, to much potential in Sasha to let go after one season. I'd be surprised if the Bobcats didn't select him. Utah may think otherwise, which is why they did this.

    Iron Shiek - Great post.
     
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    Wait, then why they didn't put Ruffin, Moore or Ostertag on the list? Surely, Sasha is better than them. I don't get the rules of expansion draft. Who are the 8 protected?
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Still, by not protecting Pavlovic, O'Connor may be signaling the Jazz's thinking on their roster-building plans. Among the possibilities:
    * They intend, as has been widely rumored, to draft Sergey Monya, a 6-foot-8 Russian forward who plays the same position as Pavlovic.
    * They regard guard Mo Williams, a second-round pick who was among the eight protected by the Jazz, as a more important part of their future.
    * They are resigned to losing free-agent center Greg Ostertag and are concerned about acquiring enough frontcourt depth, making it more important to keep restricted free agent Jarron Collins, who was protected.
    * They believe Borchardt, a 7-footer with only one guaranteed season remaining on his contract, will interest Charlotte more.
    * Or, they simply need Pavlovic's roster spot more than they need him, and are willing to risk losing the second-year Montenegran for nothing. </div>

    For the full article, go here
    http://www2.sltrib.com/jazz/Main/Story.asp...2004&NUM=175578

    I think it was a very stupid move, and I hope they take Brochardt. Theres other SG's that will interest them from other teams and Centers are hard to find these days.

    <font color="Red">Threads merged~Tmac15</font>
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KS1:</div><div class="quote_post">Wait, then why they didn't put Ruffin, Moore or Ostertag on the list? Surely, Sasha is better than them. I don't get the rules of expansion draft. Who are the 8 protected?</div>

    Well, the only 2 unprotected are Borchardt and Sasha as far as I know. I'm not to sure on the exact rules, but Ruffin, Moore and Ostertag are Free Agents. So that probably means FA's can't be protected(if anyone knows for sure please post it). So the protected guys are ones with 1+ years left on their contract, and not Sasha or Borchardt.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting tmac15:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, the only 2 unprotected are Borchardt and Sasha as far as I know. I'm not to sure on the exact rules, but Ruffin, Moore and Ostertag are Free Agents. So that probably means FA's can't be protected(if anyone knows for sure please post it). So the protected guys are ones with 1+ years left on their contract, and not Sasha or Borchardt.</div>

    Unrestricted free agents can not be left unprotected. Restricted free agents (the original team can match any offer that another team would make) can be left unprotected but if the Bobcats select them they automatically become unrestricted free agents. So if Ruffin, Moore, and Ostertag are all unrestricted free agents (they can sign anywhere w/o the Jazz being able to match the deal) then that is why they couldn't be left on the list. Mo Williams, who is in the last year of his rookie contract, could have been placed on the list instead of Sasha. This move really doesn't make sense.
     
  14. Shanny system

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">There must be a deal/agreement in the works with the Bobcats, otherwise this makes absolutely no sense.</div>
    You are right here. I have been looking around and nothing that the Jazz organization will admit, but they're working something out with the Bobcats and Sasha's headed to Charlotte..but the Jazz are getting something in return..whether it be money or future considerations I'm not sure but if I find out anything new I'll tell you.
     

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