Shaq is now a possible trade-option in the market if Kobe stays.( see full story post in rumor mill) Since the Wolves biggest problem would be no good post-player/center, well, Shaq is the Best there is. The problem is, who could the Wolves give the Lakers without messing up. Keeping in mind that if they were to get Shaq, they would have a lot of old players that would all have retired in a few years, which would scrap the Wolves. So as I said, who could we give the Lakers without damaging our current building proccess? They would obviously want KG, but hes worth more than Shaq, who else?
Since the Lakers would then be attempting to build around Kobe( basically a new team) here is what i though would be a possibilty: Shaq for Wally,Kandi,Hudson That may appeal to the Lakers, 2 experienced players, 1 with a lot of potential The problems i see there is that would take a big bite out of the Wolves extensive bench/Roleplayers
Like I said in the rumor mill the prime targets would be to sign and trade hudson along with wally, and kandi to the lakers with a couple of picks of course they would be giving the lakers alot of talent but for a multiple time all star former mvp 3 time world champ is that a price were willing to pay for him like I said before I would be torn because I really like hudson and all he has done for us but it would be a risk choice to try and do it is all im saying.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post"> Shaq for Wally,Kandi,Hudson</div> You're kidding right?
Yeah, what i meant is the best trade with the least risk. I love Hudson, but his position has been pretty well take over by Sammy and I dont know how much help he would be anymore. Also, the last couple years the Wolves have been working on building a powerful championship-competing team, thye wouldnt want to give that up to aquire Shaq most likely. Because the most ideal person the Lakers would want to pair up with Kobe(besides KG of course) would be Spree. Personally I wouldnt want Spree to leave, and also, spree alone isnt worth Shaq, it would be Spree and wally, Spree and Hudson etc.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">You're kidding right? </div> First, i hope you read the post in the Rumor Mill (which is factual) If Kobe stays, Shaq goes. The Lakers would then build a new team around KObe. Wally,Kandi, and Hudson would be great for that. Now, its questionable if thye are worth Shaq(most Lakers fans will disagree) but if the Lakers are building a team around Kobe, that might be the ideal trade...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">You're kidding right? </div> actually it would be possible alot of future draft picks would have to be tossed in though one of the lakers problems even when they were winning titles has been there bench they have to many old players and not enough depth in there bench they had this season payton malone shaq and kobe but with payton and rush struggling during the finals besides for fisher who really could step in slava didnt work stepping in for malone and in game 5 when shaq was in foul trouble who really could come off the bench to hold the pistons at the center spot no one so getting these players would depthen there bench then they could make a solid bench through the draft and free agency holding a good team together.
I can't see the Lakers trading Shaq to any western team. If they do move him, it will be out east. Like Orlando, then T-Mac can play with his buddie Shaq.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting HEAV07:</div><div class="quote_post">I can't see the Lakers trading Shaq to any western team. If they do move him, it will be out east. Like Orlando, then T-Mac can play with his buddie Shaq.</div> NOt likely tho, T-Mac is probably going to leave, Going for Shaq is an unlikely thing, but I just wanted to speculate, then again you never know
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">actually it would be possible alot of future draft picks would have to be tossed in though one of the lakers problems even when they were winning titles has been there bench they have to many old players and not enough depth in there bench they had this season payton malone shaq and kobe but with payton and rush struggling during the finals besides for fisher who really could step in slava didnt work stepping in for malone and in game 5 when shaq was in foul trouble who really could come off the bench to hold the pistons at the center spot no one so getting these players would depthen there bench then they could make a solid bench through the draft and free agency holding a good team together.</div> C'mon. That trade is a slap in the face to the Laker organization. Trading Shaq for some draft picks? I know we've had problems with our bench for numerous seasons, but do you actually think trading the most dominant center on the planet for draft picks will benefit the Lakers? C'mon...let's be realistic here.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">C'mon. That trade is a slap in the face to the Laker organization. Trading Shaq for some draft picks? I know we've had problems with our bench for numerous seasons, but do you actually think trading the most dominant center on the planet for draft picks will benefit the Lakers? C'mon...let's be realistic here.</div> Again, I hope yoiu know the facts. The Lakers a likely to trade Shaq...thye are hoping to keep Kobe and build a team around him. There, thats where those 3 example players and draft picks come in handy. Slap in the face? The Lakers are redoing the franchise, know your facts
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting HEAV07:</div><div class="quote_post">I can't see the Lakers trading Shaq to any western team. If they do move him, it will be out east. Like Orlando, then T-Mac can play with his buddie Shaq.</div> That would be awesome, I would love to see Shaq back witht the Magic. I was a big fan of Shaq and Penny with the Magic, I hated Shaq for going to LA, but oh well. The Magic would be a good team, the Magic then should try to trade for Penny, I know that's not a good idea, but it would be cool to see Penny and Shaq in Magic uniforms together...
Emo, I kinda agree that it would be a slap in the face if Shaq was traded for the 3 players and some draft picks, but you have to remember... A team trading an all-star will never get another all-star in return... EVER. In fact, I'm hoping Shaq will come to Indiana for Foster, Harrington, Bender, and Freddy Jones (always hoping), which would be VERY similar to Minnesota's offer, but Indiana has better bench players to offer. And Heav07, I completely agree with you, LA, if they trade Shaq, would never trade Shaq to a western conference team b/c they don't want direct competition with whichever team GETS Shaq... also, Lakers realize that if they do rebuild, by the time they would get to the Final's again and playing an Eastern Conference team (possibility of playing Shaq), Shaq would most-likely retire by then.
I disagree with that statement because remember when the nets traded marbury for kidd that was a straight up all star for all star deal and the pistons magic deal sending future all star player ben wallace and chucky atkins to detroit for grant hill but true most of the time a team trading an all star wont get an all star in return but not always. Emo yeah I dont believe that trade would happen but it is a possibility because of shaq's that he could be traded for lesser players because teams know they could probable only get 3 or 4 years out of shaq because of his age. So it is speculation but you never know.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Like I said in the rumor mill the prime targets would be to sign and trade hudson along with wally, and kandi to the lakers with a couple of picks of course they would be giving the lakers alot of talent but for a multiple time all star former mvp 3 time world champ is that a price were willing to pay for him like I said before I would be torn because I really like hudson and all he has done for us but it would be a risk choice to try and do it is all im saying.</div> That trio leaves you about $10 million short to meet the cap. The trio that works is Spree, Wally & Kandi.
How much do draft rights go for? Like if you add a first-rounder, how much do they assume and add to the trade request?
I've already posted in response about this in the Rumor Mill thread that's similiar. The Heat, Magic, Sixers, Celtics or Timberwolves is the way to go for Shaq. All those teams could possibly afford to sign him as well as have decent trades for him, with the exception of the Magic, Sixers and Celtics of course. The Heat and Timberwolves are two teams that're great enough to be just a great C away from the gold as well as greatness. As I mentioned in that other thread though, what about his personality, it wouldn't mend well would it? It would definitely rid the factor that we wouldn't have anyone to physically dominate EJ and Olokowandi since he'd be on our team, that's a big plus, but his stocks going down, would it be a good idea, right now would be since he's not worth as much as he use to be.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">How much do draft rights go for? Like if you add a first-rounder, how much do they assume and add to the trade request?</div> That depends on where the trading team is picking. Whatever that pick is slotted for is what that is worth in balancing off the trade. For instance, if Team X trades a guy set to make $10 million to Team Y for a guy making $8 million & their first pick, the 20th overall. That would be looked at as $10 million vs. $8 million + $1.5 million so the trade works.
1 - When you look at the way the Piston's played Shaq, I understand that it was our folly to play a hack-a-Shaq. Let Shaq get 40, but win the game. 2 - The Wolves are a great free-throw shooting team and Shaq would help in our cause to get to the line more often. The question is this, we were good enough to make it to the West Finals, and Shaq would help alot. But, what would we have to lose to move forward? Remember that our cogs that got us far are getting older, and we have to look towards the future. Ebi seems to be coming around as our future. Should we try to get any young cheap scorers and go for Shaq? Wally has offense, and that helped alot with the Kings.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?id=1824721 Shaq officially wants out. He's known this since early April according to this article. I guess it's Kobe's team officially soon. The article basically says that Shaq prefers playing for the Magic next. Wanna bet that Phil would coach that team???
