If we can not resign hassel a guy we should definitly look at is bowen

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  1. Midnight Green

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    This guy is a premier defender he has opt out of his contract with the spurs making him a unrestricted free agent so if hassel can not be resigned this guy would be a great replacment for him at that position he is just as good a defensive player and a very talented three point shooter he is a liability when it comes to free throws though.

    This is a guy that was crusial in helping the spurs win the title in the 2002-03 season and would be a great addition he has gotten a reputation as a "dirty" player around the league because people say he takes cheap shots at you on defense but he is a hard nosed player and imo would be a great addition to the team.

    Even if we resign hassel this would be a good guy to play along side him on defense and be a spark off the bench or offer us the option of bringing hassel off the bench but for us to fit him into the team rotation imo first we would need to work a trade for wally for someone good to play the 5 because or else we would have to many players at the small forward position ebi, hassel, wally, and bowen. Anyway what do you guys think of this idea?
     
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    Bowen is an option, but I think Hassel will stay. Hassel is a great player, but if we could add Bowen too that would be a good move. I would pick to keep Hassel anyday, but it's a possibility, and both would be great. It would defenitely be good idea, perimeter defenders are always good.
     
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    Hassell will most likely stay because he likes to play with KG. He is a restricted free agent, so we can match the offer of other teams. I don't think Bowen will go to Minnesota. Fred Hoiberg suits the team better in my opinion and he wants to stay in Minnesota. He is a good defender, smart and is a great shooter. He won't ask for too much. The Wolves will probably keep the team intact but I don't think Oliver Miller and Darrick Martin will be back.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Linkin:</div><div class="quote_post">Hassell will most likely stay because he likes to play with KG. He is a restricted free agent, so we can match the offer of other teams. I don't think Bowen will go to Minnesota. Fred Hoiberg suits the team better in my opinion and he wants to stay in Minnesota. He is a good defender, smart and is a great shooter. He won't ask for too much. The Wolves will probably keep the team intact but I don't think Oliver Miller and Darrick Martin will be back.</div>
    Well here in there head 2 head match up they are pretty even, and I do agree with you hoiberg is all those things, but perimeter defenders are something you can never get enough of in this league, and if bowen does show intrest in bowen we should at least make an offer, but if teams start bidding for him we shouldnt continue bidding to try and get him. Though you never know if you can get him at a bargen price we defenitly should. Also when he was defending kobe in the 2002-3 series vs the lakers when kobe was playing the small forward position cause of fox's and georges injuries. He did do a good job on covering kobe, and making him run around.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Linkin:</div><div class="quote_post">Hassell will most likely stay because he likes to play with KG. He is a restricted free agent, so we can match the offer of other teams. I don't think Bowen will go to Minnesota. Fred Hoiberg suits the team better in my opinion and he wants to stay in Minnesota. He is a good defender, smart and is a great shooter. He won't ask for too much. The Wolves will probably keep the team intact but I don't think Oliver Miller and Darrick Martin will be back.</div>

    Yep, Hoiberg is among my favorites also, great defender and hustler. His shot's one of the best on our team. Hassell is a pretty decent scorer as well right? I'd rather have Hassell, he's our team's best defender and I'd much rather have him regardless of Bowen always being a great candidate for DPOY.

    Hassell fits in well, plays well and above all is a part of "our" team. He likes everybody and plays well with them and vice versa. He's really proved his usefulness to the team, so I'd rather not see him go anywhere, I also don't think he wants to. However if he does, the money could be used to invest in an awesome C.
     
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    I would actually prefer Hassell over Bowen. As good of a defender is, I believe Hassell can be as good as him in the future. Hassell is also a much better scorer than Bowen is, and he wouldn't give you as much offensive trouble. I'd focus on trying to get him back, because I don't think Bowen will be leaving San Antonio.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think Bowen will be leaving San Antonio.</div>
    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ALLnet:</div><div class="quote_post">Bruce Bowen has declined his contract option for next season, making him an unrestricted free agent while also giving the Spurs added financial flexibility to shape their roster this summer.

    The 6-foot-7 guard-forward would have made $4 million in the final season of a three-year, $11.5 million contract he signed in July 2002. Not exercising the option allows him to reassess his market value ? and perhaps seek a new multiyear contract ? following a season in which he was named to the NBA's All-Defensive first team for the first time in his eight-year career.

    Though Bowen, who turns 33 on Monday, may ultimately re-sign with the Spurs, his decision is expected to increase the team's salary-cap room to close to $15 million after the league releases its cap figure next month.</div>


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    He has already opted out of his contract so he has already left san antonio.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">He has already opted out of his contract so he has already left san antonio.</div>

    Not exactly

    He has opted out so he can get a longer contract and basically more money. He won't be leaving San Antonio
     
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    I don't think this would be a good sign because of Spree and Wally, Spree played SF in all of his NY years and that was not his natural position he didn't like the forward, what they need is a point.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TwinTowers:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think this would be a good sign because of Spree and Wally, Spree played SF in all of his NY years and that was not his natural position he didn't like the forward, what they need is a point.</div>
    Spree wouldnt need to go back to power forward. Bowen and Hassel would rotate. Bowen is a power forward and either him or hassel could be a spark off the bench for us. He is a huge perimeter defender he manages to shut down people like ray allen and michael finely to the point they will start complaining in interviews. Sort of like a ron artest type. This probable wont happen though Bowen coming here because he probable just wants more money from the spurs.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">He has already opted out of his contract so he has already left san antonio.</div>

    I believe he opted out of his contract to seek a bigger one, not to leave the team. Kobe also opted out of his contract, but most think he'll end up resigning, and I think it'll be the same for Bowen. From what I've seen in the last few years Bowen is very happy in San Antonio, and him and Popavich have a very good relationship. He probably won't be able to get as many minutes elsewhere because of his lack of offense, and for that reason I can't see him leaving.
     
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    My question to you is Bowen worth more than 4 mil a year. Discuss
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Aaron:</div><div class="quote_post">My question to you is Bowen worth more than 4 mil a year. Discuss</div>
    His stats that he got last season were similar in almost every area to those that hoiberg got. As far as I saw when veiwing there head 2 head comparison so I would say give him the same amount of money we are offering hoiberg. Only add a little do to his age compared to hoibergs'.

    Anyway I dont think we should get into a bidding war for him with the spurs and other teams intrested in him. If he is offered more than 3 million imo we shouldnt continue and try and get him.

    Also a reason I wouldnt offer him more than three mill is because his free throw shooting is a liability. He can make a three but not a free throw its insane. He is a offensive liability basically kind of like a hack a shaq only a hack a bowen.
     
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    You seriously shouldn't compare Hoiberg will Bruce Bowen

    Bowen is one of the top 5 defenders in the NBA, can get in the head of guys and shut down anyone. He can also knock down the open three. Without him the Spurs defense wouldn't be anywhere near as good.

    Hassell is trying to reach the level Bowen is at right now.
     
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    You really can't compare Hoiberg with Bowen. Even if they have similar stats. Stats doesn't show everything. Hoiberg is a good defender but isn't at the same level as Bowen. But Hoiberg is the better shooter. Bowen will not come to Minnesota. He will most likely stay in San Antonio. And I think if the Wolves needs more youth.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Linkin:</div><div class="quote_post">You really can't compare Hoiberg with Bowen. Even if they have similar stats. Stats doesn't show everything. Hoiberg is a good defender but isn't at the same level as Bowen. But Hoiberg is the better shooter. Bowen will not come to Minnesota. He will most likely stay in San Antonio. And I think if the Wolves needs more youth.</div>

    You're right that they don't. No way do I take Bowen over Hoibs. Bowen is a liability late in the game & FT's are being shot. Hoibs is able to defend nearly as well as Bowen, too. All that Bowen's got going for him is his reputation & for being a dirty player.
     

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