Ok now don't think for one second I think he's a sell-out. I was on another forum discussing how I think GP and Malone are sell-outs. One die-hard Laker fan goes off on me saying how no one mentions how MJ was a sell-out. So I had him explain. He said, so if MJ isn't a sell-out then when he came back why did he choose the Wizards over the Bulls, his team that he won 6 rins with, his team that he brought to so much success. He just kept going on and on abou what MJ did and he said MJ took a paycut to go to the Wiz and he said that he's a sell-out for going to try to take them to the playoffs. Now is this guy just a total idiot who should be ashamed of himself for calling MJ a sell-out, or does he actually have a point? If there is a point, I don't see it.
he has no point, MJ was the president of operations at the time before deciding to pay for the wizards. He's just flat out stupid. So why would he go back to the bulls, if he was currently working for the Wizards? So basically thats the end of that conversation.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dpballers913:</div><div class="quote_post">he has no point, MJ was the president of operations at the time before deciding to pay for the wizards. He's just flat out stupid. So why would he go back to the bulls, if he was currently working for the Wizards? So basically thats the end of that conversation.</div> I don't think his an idiot, But he might have a point. Michael should have never came back in the first place. I kinda agree that if michael wan'ted to play the game of basketball game again why not play for the bulls I think it would have been better If he picked his OLD TEAM Bulls over the Wiz. Both you and the other guy have a point so I don't know because we really don't know the whole story between you and him.
I dont know about MJ being sell-out, but he certainly is all about money. When most people call MJ a sell-out they are talking about how he owns many companies like Jordan, and how MJ is pledged to Nike. Personally, I do think he should have gone back to the Bulls but I really dont care, so I have nothing to argue about.
I never thought about MJ ever being a sellout. Didn't he own the team, so whats wrong with him trying to make the team a better team. The year before he came back, we seen him in the MIP section looking disgusted by the Wizards play. Add that with his competitive drive, it wasn't a surprise he came back. MJ a sellout?
Jordan couldnt go back to the bulls Jerry Krause pretty much ran him, Scottie, & Phil out of town after championship #6. When MJ was 1st coming back to basketball in a upper management type of role, he wanted to be associated with the Bulls. But it never worked out. And you can imagine who was behind they sistuation never developing as well.
Jordan was President of Operations of the Wizards because the Bulls didn't want him to be one of the Bulls, because they already had Krause, so why would they remove the man who actually selected Jordan in the draft pick and to become the greatest basketball player of all time. Even though MJ is all about money, he has to be. Since he came into the NBA, he changed how the league was marketed. Getting shoe deals, pictures taken of him, signing autographs, and many more. So, Michael Jordan couldn't have been a sell-out. He led the Bulls to 6 championships, and then was done with the Bulls. When he got to the Wizards, people actullay started buying jerseys of them and going to their games because of him, not the team.
Maybe he saw something in the Wizs that he didnt see in the Bulls,I remember in 98 MJ said he would stay in Chi if Phil Jackson did but he left for the Lakers,I think if Phil Jackson was coaching the Bulls when MJ came back (the last time),MJ would have played for the Bulls. Also MJ was already employed with the Wizs,so that wouldnt be right to just leave them and go play for another team so he just played with the Wizs.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Even though MJ is all about money, he has to be. Since he came into the NBA, he changed how the league was marketed. Getting shoe deals, pictures taken of him, signing autographs, and many more.</div> I wouldn't really say that MJ was ALL about the money, especially in his later years. If I remember correctly, he donated his whole salary to families of 9/11 victims. Although he was stil making millions from Air Jordan, the money he made playing was given away to charity.
MJ much like Zeke, is much better as a player rather than someone involved with the mechanics of sports. Don't get me wrong, he's one heck of a businessman that's for sure, and of course our beloved G.O.A.T. However he is an idiot in that sense for me, come on? Kwame Brown? What's up with that, as well as getting Stack for Rip, geez. He's not a sell-out, never was, never will be. He has too much passion for the game, his coming back shows this. Although he made a fatal mistake and I too wish he didn't come back, you all know and remember Magic Johnson? Well he trained even after his first retirement, continued playing, that's why he was still good after he came back and made the All-Star MVP. Jordan only started again once he wanted to come back, bad idea.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MainEvent:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok now don't think for one second I think he's a sell-out. I was on another forum discussing how I think GP and Malone are sell-outs. One die-hard Laker fan goes off on me saying how no one mentions how MJ was a sell-out. So I had him explain. He said, so if MJ isn't a sell-out then when he came back why did he choose the Wizards over the Bulls, his team that he won 6 rins with, his team that he brought to so much success. He just kept going on and on abou what MJ did and he said MJ took a paycut to go to the Wiz and he said that he's a sell-out for going to try to take them to the playoffs. Now is this guy just a total idiot who should be ashamed of himself for calling MJ a sell-out, or does he actually have a point? If there is a point, I don't see it.</div> Imo he doesnt no what he is talking about MJ was always a bull and even wanteds to run the wiz franchise from chicago. He had no choice he couldnt come back with the bulls because at the time he was in the front office of the wizards organization that would be like saying lets have isiah thomas come back as a piston now that he is general manager of the knicks it makes no sence. MJ is not a sell out never was never will be.
How is he a sell-out? What did he sell-out to? He made $0 in salary for playing w/ the wizard cuz, as GameShutDown stated, all the money was donated to a 9/11 fund. I don't consider GP a sell-out, he had already been traded by the only team he really wanted to stay with, even though he couldnt stand management. But malone on the other hand completely sold-out.
I have still yet to see a good explaination for why Malone is a sell-out. Seems as if he gets the brunt of that criticism more than anyone else between he and GP. Is it a question of loyalty? It's not like the Utah Jazz organization was exactly loyal to him. The owner hated Malone and Malone hated the owner. They both tried to make it work for so long, but things like that can only go on for a certain amount of time between the two sides break ties. People say it's for the simple fact that he went to the Lakers for less money. Shouldn't we be commending him for that? As I've stated before, in an era where we HATE players who sit out for bigger money and go to worse teams because the paycheck is bigger, why should be hate Malone for taking less money to make a good team better. Also, it is not as if he was there for a free ride. He knew that he still had to play at a high level in order for the Lakers to obtain a championship. He worked hard, he played hard, he was a good locker room influence according to many people, and he took a paycut for it. It's just too bad that he was injured so often because we never got to see the Lakers and Malone work together to see them at their best.
Why did Krause want to REBUILD in the first place? when Jordan won his 6th ring? Unbelievable... What was he thinking??
Mj was no sellout. The guy's point is dumb, imo. I think GP and Malone are sellouts though. They felt their chances of winning were superior in LA so they took a paycut to win a ring. In my opinion respectable players play to pretty much play, but they gave up their pride, imo, for winning.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Fletcher:</div><div class="quote_post">Mj was no sellout. The guy's point is dumb, imo. I think GP and Malone are sellouts though. They felt their chances of winning were superior in LA so they took a paycut to win a ring. In my opinion respectable players play to pretty much play, but they gave up their pride, imo, for winning.</div> Exactly, now that is a point of a sellout. Gary Payton and Karl Malone are sell-out because they actually tried to buy a ring by going to the Lakers. Jordan wasn't a sell-out because he already owned some of the Wizards and played on their team to actually have sell-out crowds and to actually show people his shoes that he was going to sell on the Jordan market.
