I read somewhere that the Lakers are looking at Henry Bibby and Rudy T. for the new head coach job. Which team is going to try to get Shaq without ruining their team, he only has 1 to 3 good years left.
Dallas is a team that may offer for Shaq. Mark Cuban is willing to trade anyone except Nowitzki. So they have players like: Finely, Walker (if hes still there), Jamison, and Nash who could be traded.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter & Donyell Marshall for Shaq & George</div> If you look at a perspective outside of value, benefit and all of that, then this trade wouldn't work because Vince is a Raptor for life, and fans would actually be dissapointed if this was to happen. They wouldn't care if Shaq would bring a higher possiblity of a championship than Vince would. Plus, I wouldn't even do that anyways from the value of the players and benefit perspective. I believe Vince is going into his prime (no joke) and Shaq is going into his twilight and I believe Vince will make us a better team than Shaq.
I think dallas has more to offer and sacremento as in trade value being they are loaded with talent from starters to bench
Kobe and McGrady, nah, McGrady is gonna get mad at Kobe for being better than him and start a feud lol
To tell you the truth, I'd be very happy if the Lakers can trade Shaq. For one thing, he's declining, he's not the dominant force he once was. Secondly, he's being paid too much money for the upcoming year which is around 30.4 million due for 2005-06, and we could get young athletic players in return which the Lakers desperately need at this stage right now. I'm all up for it. Plus now with Phil unfortunately gone, and Shaq pretty much on the trading block, everything is coming into place for Kobe to sign the maxixum 7 yrs for 140 million dollar contract.
Where would Shaq go to?? There's talk that The Kings want Shaq on there team,but i highly doubt that will happen...i mean do you Laker fans wanna see Shaq go to a rivral team in the west,esp the Kings??? I Think with Shaq leaving the Lakers,i believe it will be easier for Kobe to stay a Laker,as i just don't see the 2 of them playing with each other forever!!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">To tell you the truth, I'd be very happy if the Lakers can trade Shaq. For one thing, he's declining, he's not the dominant force he once was. Secondly, he's being paid too much money for the upcoming year which is around 30.4 million due for 2005-06, and we could get young athletic players in return which the Lakers desperately need at this stage right now. I'm all up for it. Plus now with Phil unfortunately gone, and Shaq pretty much on the trading block, everything is coming into place for Kobe to sign the maxixum 7 yrs for 140 million dollar contract.</div> I agree with you...and in fact, Kobe or no Kobe, I would be happy if they traded shaq and got good value. I hear he wants a 3 year extension for $110 million The last thing I want to see is the Lakers being "average" and getting knocked out of the playoffs in the first round every year when they should be rebuilding (i.e. Dallas) for a future Championship run. I'm a big believer in that sometimes you need to take a step back in order to go foward.
This is crazy . It's seeming like all this trading and what not is starting after they lost to the Pistons .. I don't know how long Kobe's been a free agent . Or how long Phil wanted to quit . But now Shaq wants out ? This is crazy . Other teams have lost , sucked it up , keep moving , and learned from their mistakes . The Lakers had to learn one way or another , you can't win everything . They [ Kobe and Phil ] got three rings a piece .. They straight .. There would always be next year , but I guess not .
I too wouldnt mind trading him, his FT shooting has hurt us tremendously and it wont get any better, I remember awhile back their was a rumor around that would send him to Indy for Jermaine O'neal and fillers...I would love that trade and I think Jermaine O'neal would get much more respect in the Western Conference... As for him being traded, it is very hard with his salary..and I really dont think that he wants to be traded, his emotions are high right now after the loss int eh finals, I think he should be given a month to really settle things down and really think about were he wants to play next season, I think this was a comment made out of hasty decisions.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">I hear he wants a 3 year extension for $110 million </div> I know it's big, but I don't think that big. From what I've heard he wants a three year extension that would pay him around a little over $30 million a season. If it was near 110 that would put him at about 37 million, and no player is worth that.. especially one whose injuries have only begun and one who doesn't even work hard. I honestly don't even think Shaq would be worth a $20 million a year extension, because you know three seasons from now he will be hammered with injuries and won't be anything near what he is now. If Shaq gets traded I wouldn't blame the management for not being "loyal" to him, it'll be his own fault. I read an article in the LA Register today, and as it said in the article it's outrageous to pay that kind of money to a guy who comes into training camp out of shape, and refuses to put in the effort to correct his free throw shooting. Shaq really takes a lot of shots at Laker GM Mitch Kupchak for not getting the extension, but who the hell in their right mind would give Shaq a 30+million dollar a year extention to kick in when he's 34? He takes credit for getting Karl and Gary to sign minimum salary contracts to win rings, but wants a huge extension like that... sounds a little rediculous.. doesn't it?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I know it's big, but I don't think that big. From what I've heard he wants a three year extension that would pay him around a little over $30 million a season. If it was near 110 that would put him at about 37 million, and no player is worth that.. especially one whose injuries have only begun and one who doesn't even work hard. I honestly don't even think Shaq would be worth a $20 million a year extension, because you know three seasons from now he will be hammered with injuries and won't be anything near what he is now.</div> No player is worth 30 million dollars a season when for one he can't hit free throws, only plays when he wants to with a lazy attitude, and fakes his injuries. Especially that simple calf injury he supposedly "suffered" when he sat out 12 games. The man just can't play a 82 game season anymore due to heavy eating I'm sure and just out of shape. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">Shaq really takes a lot of shots at Laker GM Mitch Kupchak for not getting the extension, but who the hell in their right mind would give Shaq a 30+million dollar a year extention to kick in when he's 34? He takes credit for getting Karl and Gary to sign minimum salary contracts to win rings, but wants a huge extension like that... sounds a little rediculous.. doesn't it?</div> It's just Shaq's pride and ego doing all the talking for him. He just thinks being a 7'1" 360 pound giant would give him the free pass to earn all the money he wants. But if you're out of shape, can't hit free throws, being lazy, and faking injuries, how can you earn that kind of money? I really hope this trade can be done very soon. Because it's time for this organization to go in a different direction.
Anyone who is suprised with the Lakers 'Sudden Collapse' obviously has not been a Laker fan, or watch the Lakers for the last 5 years. Yes they have managed to win 3 titles, and make a decent run at a 4th, but Shaq and Kobe's relationship woes have been well documented over the same amount of time. And this year it was clearly evident by mid season that this was the last of the Lakers Kobe/Shaq/Phil trifecta. I love Shaq, and I love what he has done for the Lakers, but he did this all to himself. He says he would never disrespect someone in public like Kobe did, yet durring a pre-season game in Hawaii he was yelling at Jerry Buss about a contract extension to a contract that still had 3 years on it. Not to mention the various off handed slams against Kobe, Mitch, etc, he peppers all his interviews with. And the fact that Shaq is saying Phil Jackson leaving is messed up because it's about the team and not a single person is laughable too. That's great coming from a guy who complains that his teammates don't give him the ball enough. So where does Shaq go where he will be number one and win another title. I say Orlando is out. He thinks playing with T-Mac is going to be great, and they will immediatly make a title run, but T-Mac is a shooter, just like Kobe, who wants to be top dog, just like Kobe. What happens when T-Mac and Shaq start feuding over who should get the ball more? I have a feeling the Lakers are going to do something that will not make sense on the court, but make all the sense in the world financially. My gut tells me no one will offer the Lakers the type of players they are looking for, so the Lakers will dump Shaq for money and some random players. That way the Lakers will clear up cap space. They may not need/want the players they get, but it will be better than having a pissed of Shaq costing them a ton of money. It will be very interesting when all is said and done. I'm sure when Shaq finally lands, he's going to do a lot more than pepper his interviews with off-handed comments. He'll fill them with direct slams.
Yeah, I agree with everything you said there los. Shaq's brought this upon himself with his stupid comments and lazy attitude. Shaq any many others say Kobe is too selfish to play with Shaq, but I've always thought Shaq was the selfish one. Yes Kobe shoots the ball more, but if you look back in history almost all of the great big men with good guards around them shot less than the guards. Guards take more shots because they have the ball much more, and they need to shoot to be efficient. On the other hand big men just sit inside and wait for the ball to get pounded into them. Shaq is known for being an "unselfish" player on the court because he doesn't shoot as much, but aside the shots I see him as the most selfish player in the league. As I mentioned earlier he even takes credit for recruiting Gary and Karl at a small salary, and then wants 30 times more money than Karl for his extension. He doesn't look into the perspective of others, and rips people int he media when he doesn't get what he wants. IMO that is what a "selfish" player is, not one who takes too many shots.
This is an interesting issue among the Los Angeles media. The Los Angeles Times writers (most notably Bill Platchke sp?) is against dismantling this team for Kobe. He believes one player isn't worth getting rid of both Shaq and Phil However, television and radio people (most notably Steve Hartman) thinks this is the right move. James Worthy seems to also support the move (altho everyone wishes both Shaq and Kobe can remain together). Worthy was saying how if Shaq continues with his poor work ethic, there is no way he can last 5 - 6 more years (as Shaq has said he will). Kobe is young, he's the future... The fact is that we all saw this coming for years. We all knew Shaq would eventually decline...and we all knew Kobe would eventually enter this prime...and we all knew Shaq's ego would never accept 2nd fiddle...and we all knew that Kobe's ego would not accept 2nd fiddle forever....The time has come, and really should be no surprise. It was inevitable
