What would it take to get McGrady to Golden State?

He wants out of Orlando. Who would you trade to Orlando to pick him up? IMO, nobody on the Warriors is untouchable. As much as I love Richardson, I would trade him and whoever else to include our 1st round draft pick. Mullin says we need as many players with talent as possible, why not try to get the best player in the NBA?

 

I would give up J-Rich, Dunleavy and the first round pick for him. Yes, I want to make the damn playoffs.

 

I wouldn't give the pick, but I'd try to get McGrady With Richardson and Claxton, then run a starting lineup similar to what they had during the win streak at the end of the year...

PG - Dunleavy
SG - McGrady
SF - Pietrus
PF - Murphy
C - Damp/Foyle/Whoever

This lineup, while it lose the speed Claxton has at PG, we get DUnleavy's ability to pass over smaller guards and either post up or take perimeter shots. I believe we gain speed from McGrady at SG, (definately improves ballhandling), we get our most athletic, aggressive defender starting in Pietrus, we get a very consistent jump shot/rebounder in Murphy, and whatever the center gives is icing on the cake.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Casske:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't give the pick, but I'd try to get McGrady With Richardson and Claxton, then run a starting lineup similar to what they had during the win streak at the end of the year...

PG - Dunleavy
SG - McGrady
SF - Pietrus
PF - Murphy
C - Damp/Foyle/Whoever

This lineup, while it lose the speed Claxton has at PG, we get DUnleavy's ability to pass over smaller guards and either post up or take perimeter shots. I believe we gain speed from McGrady at SG, (definately improves ballhandling), we get our most athletic, aggressive defender starting in Pietrus, we get a very consistent jump shot/rebounder in Murphy, and whatever the center gives is icing on the cake.</div>That would be a very impressive line up. Stop teasing us!

 

McGrady can play some point too but is he a team player? Like will he follow the game plan to let's say keep going to Dunleavy or Murphy on post up plays.

 

Funny you should mention Mcgrady to GS because the follow offer was reportly made by Golden State last night

Jason Richardson,Cliff Robinson, Mike Dunleavy and the 11th overall pick for Mcgrady

 

Guys, you wouldn't want Tmac. He wants to be traded to a winning team. Imagine if Tmac comes to golden state and u traded all these quality players (Jason Richardson,Mike Dunleavy and the 11th overall pick) for him and you guys still have a losing season. What is going to stop Tmac from opting out of his contract and going to another team. Do you really think it is worth it to get rid all of these players just to have an one year rental of Mcgrady.

 

I don't think the Magic would want Jrich or Dunleavy either. Jrich only has one year on his contract and Dunleavy I'm not sure any team is enthused about or they would have asked for him. I think the Warriors though are a very underrated team (a team that has changed a lot from year to year) and they've been underrated badly because of their season record and their absence from the playoffs. Yes, the season record counts in the end whether you go to the playoffs or not, but you have to look at the circumstances of why last year led to a 10th consecutive playoff drought. You didn't have Murphy, you didn't have depth at the 4 and 5 positions because of injuries. No starting point guard. At one time you had all 3 point guards on the IR list. Nevertheless, they finished strong against some pretty tough teams and I think they could be the team to watch out for next season if they keep Dampier and the new coach can transition to the NBA style of game. Warriors could pull off win without a superstar if they can get good ball movement going and they play team defense. A good balanced attack.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Funny you should mention Mcgrady to GS because the follow offer was reportly made by Golden State last night

Jason Richardson,Cliff Robinson, Mike Dunleavy and the 11th overall pick for Mcgrady</div>
Damn I was real close, I just left Robinson out of the deal. This is very interesting. I wonder if the Magic would actually consider it.

 

Wow, are you serious? How would that help the warriors situation though? I guess maybe Mullin was thinking about building around Troy Murphy and getting McGrady as the go to guy. They'd get guys they could sign later, a draft pick, and a lot of cap space. Also the Warriors would get huge cap space in the year they want to use it on acquiring a big man like Yao. This has to be in the plan. It makes sense from a marketing standpoint and he's the 2nd best center in the league.

 

I wouldn't offer them Robinson... he's critically important to defend the West's best big men. Besides, aren't they already going to have Gooden, Okafor, and Juwan Howard? That's a perfectly fine trio right there.

I'd be sad to see DUnleavy go. In fact, given the work Mullin has done with him, I doubt it's true that such an offer was made...

Ultimately, I view Dunleavy, Murphy, and Pietrus as the untouchables in this situation. Those three in a lineup provide an extremely balanced range of skills. Dunleavy is an exquisite passer, Pietrus is a star defender, Murphy can rebound, shoot, and play inside.

Whether we get McGrady or not, though, I think we're going to make it this year. I'm of the mind that the Lakers might miss the playoff next year after the incredible schlacking they got in the finals... take Shaq away, they definately haven't got it... take Shaq AND Kobe away, and we'll get to see if Slava Medvedenko can average 20/10/5. And I wouldn't hold my breath.

 

Jrich is like V.C. if you trade Jrich you better have a marquee player to attract crowds and keep them entertained. I still am a firm believer that he can be an allstar player. He was clearly the best of his class.

 

On the one hand, I hate giving up Dunleavy and Richardson. I think both have bright futures in the league. Part of me keeps saying, "look at the Pistons, they won with chemistry and five good to very good players, you don't need to have a superstar to suceed."

On the other hand, if a lot of things happen along with the Warriors getting McGrady, the Warriors could take a huge step forward. The way I see it...IF they get McGrady and IF they get him to waive his player option in '05 and IF getting McGrady means Damp resigns, then the Warriors will have a much improved starting 5. Now that's a lot of if's, but they're all possible.

The problem is that it would leave the bench very thin, and that's not something you want with two injury prone guys like Claxston and McGrady. NVE (who's no Lou Gehrig himself...) and Eschmeyer would be their only other players under contract. That would just leave their MLE and veteran's exception to fill out the bench, oh and the Warriors were supposed to get Orlando's #37 pick as well.

The Warriors would probably be forced to move NVE during the summer, rather than wait until February when his trade value will be much higher. My guess the most they could get for NVE right now would be something like a deal with Dallas for Abdul-Wahad and Najera or with Houston for Cato and Jackson. With the MLE they could probably resign Cardinal for about 1.5 mil and have 3 mil left to sign another player, probably a big man.

With the #37, the Warriors could try and go big if Vroman or Chan were available. They could go medium with guys like Drejer or Ariza (who may be a young Al Harrington). Or they could go small with guys like Delonte West or Duhon.

No matter what, the team is going to be thin until they can trade NVE.

 

Are you saying T-Mac is the best player in the NBA Warriorsfansnc93

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TwinTowers:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you saying T-Mac is the best player in the NBA Warriorsfansnc93</div>

He is arguable the best player in the NBA, yes.

 

Theres no way Mcgrady is all around the best player in the league..thats pretty funny but thats a whole nother topic.

I really dont want to gut this team for a star..not yet atliest. We saw some potential and chemistry with all these players before the season ended...Id rather try to build around what we got and see where we stand after next season before we send away all these players..Richardson and Dunleavy are still improving and knowing our luck, we could end up regreting getting rid of them. I DO want a star on this team but I think our best luck right now is developing what we got.

 

Also Dunleavy, Richardson and Robinson dont seem to mind playing here in Oakland. I cant see Mcgrady happy here. If he couldnt lead Orlando to the playoffs in the east..how is he gonna do it with the Warriors out west..Weve been sending away our best players year after year after year and where has it got us?

 

That is certainly one way to go UltimateWarrior. But aren't you tired of "potential". We haven't made the playoffs for over a freaking decade. Enough is enough. I'm not saying we have much of a chance but if we did, how could you pass on this? We need a player that we can build this team around.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting UltimateWarrior:</div><div class="quote_post">Also Dunleavy, Richardson and Robinson dont seem to mind playing here in Oakland. I cant see Mcgrady happy here. If he couldnt lead Orlando to the playoffs in the east..how is he gonna do it with the Warriors out west..Weve been sending away our best players year after year after year and where has it got us?</div>Remember that he did lead them to the playoffs last year with a pretty bad team and they almost upset the Pistons in the first round. He has the potential to lead a team, with the players the Warriors have it would be possible.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rudeezy:</div><div class="quote_post"> He has the potential to lead a team, with the players the Warriors have it would be possible.</div>

Add Mcgrady to what we already got and yes, I do believe we have something but..
Mcgrady minus Richardson, Dunleavy and Robinson Im a little skeptical of how we would compete in the western conference. We would definetly lack depth and we already know he cant lead a team very far without it so like wtwalker said, until we get rid of NVE we would a have a pretty thin line up. If somehow got rid of NVE and signed some solid free agent I think we may be ok.
Im still tired of having a completly new roster year after year and I do believe thats one reason we havnt seen the playoffs in so long.