Rasheed Wallace for Shaq

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  1. Smoke

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    If the pistons can resign Rasheed. In your opinion do you think it would be a smart move for the Pistons to deal Rasheed Wallace maybe Memhet Okur and possibly draftpicks for the diesal.

    I think this would be a very smart move for the pistons since the Diesal wants to leave the Lakers and the Pistons need a center to compliment Ben wallace down in the post ( especially if Rasheed is not sure if he wants to stay with the Pistons) until Darko matures enough to handle that role on the Pistons.

    with Shaqa's age he could probally give the Pistons 5 good years and 5 good championships until Darko is ready to play.
     
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    No way pistons will do that ... or would they? I ve thought about it myself yesterday and thought it isnt a very absurd idea. Rasheed and okur arent players that would make kobe trouble and with sheed lakers would still be a competitive team ... nice thought.
     
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    Terrible trade

    Why trade Sheed and a good young talent like Memo for an aging guy who is on the way down? It goes against everything Joe D believes in. He didn't build this team purely on winning titles quickly but keeping this core for the future. Rasheed Wallace's defense is the big reason the championship is in Detroit. Shaq just isn't effective on the defensive end anymore and he certainly can't spread the defense like Sheed can.
     
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    I don't think Dumars would do it cause Pistons jus won the title and they have a roster where every1 is gettin along. He is gonna keep the same lineup next yr. He wouldn't deal Rasheed at all and L.A. prolly wants more in return for Shaq.
     
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    Shaq isn't really that much of a team player. I don't care that he passes well for a big man and works well under pressure. Why add another terrible FT shooter on a defensive team? 'Sheed's slightly better in that department and obviously the overall better shooter, not necessarily scorer, but shooter all the same.

    He'd probably ruin the tempo with his so called superstar status in his mind. He'd want the Triangular Offense to be used and present anywhere he goes, get the ball to him, make him your go to guy. Solely for the reason of the loss of the whole team aspect, no, Dumars knows much better than that.
     
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    Shaq wouldnt fit the team defenseive consepte of the pistons imo. Also he would affect the possible development of darko if he would have to sit behind shaq he wouldnt play much at all. Then you would have to move big ben to pwer forward and big ben wouldnt like that because when he was playing over seas and the wiz tried to get him first he declined because he wasnt sure they wanted him for center. He only accepted when he was sure he would play the position he liked.

    Also Sheed wouldnt do that well out west imo you say him last year before he got traded out east he couldnt keep up with thesize in the west much any more. He will be hitting 30 this summer and has alot of bagage, but if I were the pistons with the chance of getting a all star center like shaq his play declining or not. Its shaq! In the east! He would make them the favorites to not only get out of the easts but possible win the whole thing.
     
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    i dont know it sounds fair but the pistons should not break up the wallace defensive dominance unless they have to for whatever reason.
     
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    Excellent trade. First of all, Shaq is better than Rasheed. Second of all, Mehmet Okur would make the deal fair. They have an 18 year old player who's sky is the limit right? So wouldn't he replace Mehmet's role? The pick would even make the trade in favour of the Pistons. Plus, the draft pick wouldn't even have a chance to step on the floor for a minute since the team has so much depth. A 2nd pick proves it. If Darko was picked very high, he definitely wouldn't of got any minutes, but how can a 2ND PICK not get any minutes? So no matter how low or high their draft pick is and no matter how good the player is, he's not seeing any minutes, so the pick would be a perfect fit for the Lakers because their bench is horrible and they have no depth whatsoever as the pick would get quality minutes.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Excellent trade. First of all, Shaq is better than Rasheed. Second of all, Mehmet Okur would make the deal fair. They have an 18 year old player who's sky is the limit right? So wouldn't he replace Mehmet's role? The pick would even make the trade in favour of the Pistons. Plus, the draft pick wouldn't even have a chance to step on the floor for a minute since the team has so much depth. A 2nd pick proves it. If Darko was picked very high, he definitely wouldn't of got any minutes, but how can a 2ND PICK not get any minutes? So no matter how low or high their draft pick is and no matter how good the player is, he's not seeing any minutes, so the pick would be a perfect fit for the Lakers because their bench is horrible and they have no depth whatsoever as the pick would get quality minutes.</div>
    I don't know if I should [​IMG] or [​IMG] .
     
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    Huh, what about Sheed? Just him being on this team changed this team around for the best obviously. No!!! But Shaq is most likely to the Lakers now. Ahh, I guess it would be great for some of the Detroit fans.
     
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    It's clear some people in this thread do not watch the Detroit Pistons play enough, would this team be as good defensively without Sheed? no

    would they be able to win the title without him? no

    People don't realise how important he is to the team, the Pistons defense was good without him but It was even better after he arrived which has made the Pistons world champions.

    Shaq is on the way down and he is not worth trading Rasheed and Memo. A totally pointless trade which would hurt in the future.

    I also have no idea about the person who said Sheed didn't do that well out west and had problems with their size? I think you've got it the other way around there. He always played his best aganist the top forwards in the NBA.
     
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    Wherever Shaq goes it'll be a big bang and all of us know that but I just can't see JoeD having Shaq in the team and hoping he'll cope with Larry Brown's game esspecially if Shaq comes for Sheed but then again he's the best center in the game so......everyone wants him why not Pistons???
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dajahit21:</div><div class="quote_post">Wherever Shaq goes it'll be a big bang and all of us know that but I just can't see JoeD having Shaq in the team and hoping he'll cope with Larry Brown's game esspecially if Shaq comes for Sheed but then again he's the best center in the game so......everyone wants him why not Pistons???</div>

    Pistons wouldn't want him because he is anti the Piston style of play. He'd be the one superstar craving all the media attention on a team that quietly goes about buisness, and that would rub the other guys, JoeD, and Larry the wrong way. Given the Pistons scoring, or rather lackthereof it, Shaq would complain frequently about touches and points, again rubbing everyone the wrong way. He can't play D on a team that thrives on it and that *gasp* actually takes pride in playing defense. He wouldn't fit in Detroit, especially if they lose Okur and trade Sheed for him.
     
  14. Moo2K4

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    Never would happen. Not in a million years would this happen. The Lakers wouldn't give up Shaq for Sheed, Okur, and whatever else. That's insane if the Lakers would do that. In my opinion, they'd be getting the wrong end of the stick. They'd be losing the most dominant player in the game for a person who isn't nearly as good on offense and a center who wouldn't work well in the West. Bad trade for the Lakers. Plus, another thing you have to look at, would the salaries be even close to matching up? But, even if they would, this would never happen. Bad for each side.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Excellent trade. First of all, Shaq is better than Rasheed. Second of all, Mehmet Okur would make the deal fair. They have an 18 year old player who's sky is the limit right? So wouldn't he replace Mehmet's role? The pick would even make the trade in favour of the Pistons. Plus, the draft pick wouldn't even have a chance to step on the floor for a minute since the team has so much depth. A 2nd pick proves it. If Darko was picked very high, he definitely wouldn't of got any minutes, but how can a 2ND PICK not get any minutes? So no matter how low or high their draft pick is and no matter how good the player is, he's not seeing any minutes, so the pick would be a perfect fit for the Lakers because their bench is horrible and they have no depth whatsoever as the pick would get quality minutes.</div>

    Saying Rasheed Wallace is equal value to Shaq if we were to swap these two is one thing, but to come out straight up and say Mehmet Okur would make the deal fair is ridiculous and pathetic. And why would we want to trade for a bench man when the Lakers need help on their starting roster?? [​IMG]
     

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