<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post">i hate people who say things like carter is over rated and shit. he has 2 bad season and people judge him on those seasons. any way this trade will never i repeat never happen on the facts that toronto is happy with carter phili is happy with iverson and both teams said that they want them as there franshice players and have no intention to trade them. but if this happenes then it would suck cause i have all of vince carter's jerseys and i dont wanna but new ones cause he got traded</div> I 100% agree wit dat. VC has a couple of injury years(where he still averaged over 20ppg) and now everybody hates him. However this year he only missed 9 games and we saw the old VC(well flashes ofit) and it was great.
Both of these players in my eyes are on the decline. But moreso for AI than VC, so I say no to this. VC has been playing smart, yet conservative basketball, he knows he's in trouble if he tries to go all courageous again like AI is doing. He's contributing better at that, passing instead of attacking like he use to. Plus give up the PG in Nelson that we really need? That's just a wrong move, if you even think of doing this, your team will be in the same boat as the Celtics, Magic and Sixers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Peja King:</div><div class="quote_post">i wouldn't never watch the raptors anymore if iverson is on the team</div> Gimme a break! AI is a warrior and one of the top 3 exciting players in the NBA to watch work his ways on the court. This man never gives up and sacrifices his body every time he goes out on the court. Just because he sometimes has offcourt issues doesn't mean someone should not watch him or disown a team that he is playing for, once again - Gimme a Break! And I know plenty of people in here agree w/ me on this, right?
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Gimme a break! AI is a warrior and one of the top 3 exciting players in the NBA to watch work his ways on the court. This man never gives up and sacrifices his body every time he goes out on the court. Just because he sometimes has offcourt issues doesn't mean someone should not watch him or disown a team that he is playing for, once again - Gimme a Break! And I know plenty of people in here agree w/ me on this, right?</div> Well I agree. And I think it's safe to say that Allen Iverson is the most exciting individual player to watch in the NBA. According to ticket sales, merchandise and revenue, Allen Iverson ranks among the best. Philadelphia ranked number 2 in attendance, and I’m sure it’s not because everyone wanted to watch Eric Snow play defense. Even when the Sixers are on the road ticket sales in respected arenas go up. Maybe Allen Iverson is not Peja King type of player, but if Allen Iverson was indeed traded to the Raptors. You can bet that there will be a lot more nationally televised Toronto Raptors games. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Both of these players in my eyes are on the decline. But moreso for AI than VC, so I say no to this. VC has been playing smart, yet conservative basketball, he knows he's in trouble if he tries to go all courageous again like AI is doing. He's contributing better at that, passing instead of attacking like he use to. Plus give up the PG in Nelson that we really need? That's just a wrong move, if you even think of doing this, your team will be in the same boat as the Celtics, Magic and Sixers.</div> Allen Iverson may be heading on the decline at a faster rate than Vince Carter. But the impact they have on the league and their respected team doesn’t show it. And I don't think its fair to put the Sixers in the same boat with the Celtics and Magic. I know and I think you should know that the Sixers are a much better team than the Magic and Celtics despite their coach-less/injury plagued season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I agree. And I think it's safe to say that Allen Iverson is the most exciting individual player to watch in the NBA. According to ticket sales, merchandise and revenue, Allen Iverson ranks among the best. Philadelphia ranked number 2 in attendance, and I?m sure it?s not because everyone wanted to watch Eric Snow play defense. Even when the Sixers are on the road ticket sales in respected arenas go up. Maybe Allen Iverson is not Peja King type of player, but if Allen Iverson was indeed traded to the Raptors. You can bet that there will be a lot more nationally televised Toronto Raptors games.</div> Right on, you are exactly right about that. And I'm glad that someone backed me up with an itelligent post. TY
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I agree. And I think it's safe to say that Allen Iverson is the most exciting individual player to watch in the NBA. According to ticket sales, merchandise and revenue, Allen Iverson ranks among the best. Philadelphia ranked number 2 in attendance, and I?m sure it?s not because everyone wanted to watch Eric Snow play defense. Even when the Sixers are on the road ticket sales in respected arenas go up. Maybe Allen Iverson is not Peja King type of player, but if Allen Iverson was indeed traded to the Raptors. You can bet that there will be a lot more nationally televised Toronto Raptors games.</div> I don't know if we'll get more games, but Carter is a pretty popular and merchandised player, and Iverson would probably ask for a trade from Toronto anyways. Iverson is also popular though, but how many players actually want to stay here, and also Iverson's trade value isn't that high anymore, age, injuries and contract all being a factor, you can't get near the same for his as you would've 2 or 3 years ago. Philly shouldn't have made his contract so long for when he was older, that was their mistake, I mean what would you rather have, Iverson's 5 year about 91 million remaining or Michael Redd's 2 year 6 million remaining.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't know if we'll get more games, but Carter is a pretty popular and merchandised player, and Iverson would probably ask for a trade from Toronto anyways. Iverson is also popular though, but how many players actually want to stay here, and also Iverson's trade value isn't that high anymore, age, injuries and contract all being a factor, you can't get near the same for his as you would've 2 or 3 years ago. Philly shouldn't have made his contract so long for when he was older, that was their mistake, I mean what would you rather have, Iverson's 5 year about 91 million remaining or Michael Redd's 2 year 6 million remaining.</div> Trust me on this one og, Toronto would get much more nationally televised games. The 76ers had more nationally televised games this year than I remember. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the Raptors got at least 5 nationally televised games this year. Well nonetheless, Carter and Iverson are both VERY popular players in the NBA, but Iverson may be a little more popular. Every basketball game you go to you can bet there is at least one person with an Iverson jersey on. I agree with his trade value not being as high as it used to be. But there isn't too much talent out there that you can get if your trading Iverson straight up in a two man deal. (Endorsements and money plays a role as well) No disrespect to Vince Carter, but I don't think the Sixers would be getting equal value if they traded Iverson for Carter.
Yea Toronto doesn't get too many nationally televised games, man I only remember one game we got this year lol. Iverson is very pouplar though, people love the guy, he's a good guy. I don't think fans from either team would want this to happen, Vince has been pretty loyal to the Raptors, and when you think of them you think of Vince. Iverson has also become the face of the Sixer's, he also doesn't want to get traded, and Toronto is likely one of the last teams he'd want to go to if he did along with Atlanta and like Utah.
VC For AI, please . These players are both franchise players and their teams are built around them. Obviously there have been deals made with two teams givin up the guys they built around , but those teams were in ruins, where as these two teams are better than what they showed last season. Which is mostly due to injuries, especially for the Raptors. VC may be able to fit in to another team because of his unselfishness (which is a fault), but AI is not a guy u add to a team, hes a guy you build around. If I started a new franchise today i'd choose VC anyday :thumbsup: , still has an upside and if he has the right coach he's unstoppable.
I'll tell ya what, I was at work all and couldn't watch tv but I was told that all day on CSN and ESPN was bringing up AI for VC rumor. Then I seen King's interview and it actually seemed like this could happen. Man, I didn't think it was that serious. And yeah I wouldn't mind seeing my fav. TarHeel coming to Philly.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I'll tell ya what, I was at work all and couldn't watch tv but I was told that all day on CSN and ESPN was bringing up AI for VC rumor. Then I seen King's interview and it actually seemed like this could happen. Man, I didn't think it was that serious. And yeah I wouldn't mind seeing my fav. TarHeel coming to Philly.</div> I read an article, when reporters asked King about the possible trade and King said that he has no comments regarding the trade. So yes, there is definitely a chance of this happening. I would ridiculously mad if this trade went down. Like Og pointed out both Vince and Allen represents their respected teams and city. So I’m in real favor of opposing this trade.
Vince Carter And Allen Iverson I don't think that Vince Carter should go to Philly, because trading Carter for Iverson would'nt be a even trade. For one reason, Carter's knee is not 100% and Iverson needs to be traded for someone like Kobe, atleast he compares to someone like that .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting MizzMcGrady1:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think that Vince Carter should go to Philly, because trading Carter for Iverson would'nt be a even trade. For one reason, Carter's knee is not 100% and Iverson needs to be traded for someone like Kobe, atleast he compares to someone like that .</div> Iverson is good and all, but taking in all the factors, Vince has higher trade value than Iverson. One on one Kobe is only matched with Tmac and maybe JO. In a package, Wade, Carmelo, Dirk, JO, Kirilenko, and Amare packaged with someone else is what Kobe would go for. Iverson's trade value really isn't that high right now, unless he has some crazy good season next year it's not going to be going any higher either. Right now teams would'nt likely do Pierce, Vince, Kidd, Baron, Marbury, Odom Francis (and all the previous guys) one on one for Iverson, not because he's not better than some of those guys but because of every factor you have to take into play, contracts, age, injury record etc.
