Lakers Coaching Candidates

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  1. Moo2K4

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Tomjanovich appears to be the Lakers' favorite among a list of potential candidates that includes former Lakers coach Pat Riley, George Karl and Lakers assistants Jim Cleamons and Kurt Rambis, who occupied the two seats to Jackson's right on the bench this season.</div>

    Article about some of the candidates for the head coach job. I like Rudy personally out of that group. I'd like Riley, but I don't think that'll happen. He retired for a reason and I don't see him coming back to coach, at least this season. He'll sit out at least another. But, I think Rudy is the best person for the job. A great coach and knows how to win. Won 2 titles, granted those were the years in the mid-90s MJ had taken off for baseball. Plus, he made playoffs in 7 of the 12 years on his resume while at Houston. One I dislike the most would be Kurt Rambis. They tried that the year before Phil and it didn't work. They got swept by the Spurs that year in the conference semis. The other one not mentioned in the quote was Michael Cooper, but, in my opinion, he is the least likely of any of the candidates.
     
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    I just read an ESPN article and an interesting name came up... Brian Shaw? He doesn't really have any coaching experience, but that's an interesting candidate nontheless
     
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    Damnit Byron. We all knew this was coming! Why couldn't you hold out!! ack. [​IMG]
     
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    Brian Shaw would be an interesting one. It would be like when the Nets hired Scott a few years back. Hired someone who had playing experience but no coaching experience and see what happens. That's the only problem with that though. When you take someone with no coaching experience it's almost like an experiment. You test it out to see if it works and kinda hope for the best. Worked with Scott quite nicely....til he got fired. They could always try it. But, I'm all for Rudy T at this point in time.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Brian Shaw would be an interesting one. It would be like when the Nets hired Scott a few years back. Hired someone who had playing experience but no coaching experience and see what happens. That's the only problem with that though. When you take someone with no coaching experience it's almost like an experiment. You test it out to see if it works and kinda hope for the best. Worked with Scott quite nicely....til he got fired. They could always try it. But, I'm all for Rudy T at this point in time.</div>


    There is a difference tho, Byron Scott was an assistant coach with the Kings for 2 seasons from 98-00 before he got the Nets job. So he did have some coaching experience. Andthe Nets pretty much knew that when B.Scott was coming over to be the head coach, he would bring over eddie jordan(who was a head coach before with the Kings) with him because of their relationship.

    Plus B.Scott had been around great coaches all his life, Pete Correel(misspelled), Pat Riley, Larry Brown, Rick Adelman, so even if he didnt try, he would probably learn how to be a great coach learning from those basketball minds.

    And he went to the Nets, who were coming off a horrible season. And even tho we play in the tri-state media spotlight, is still considerd to be a small market team. So if B.Scott failed it wouldnt really matter to anyone. Don Casey failed the season before Scott became coach & nobody even cared.

    So that makes Brain Shaw & B.Scott's situation totally different. You cant hire a inexperienced coach(with the focus the Lakers get). So he really isnt even a legit candidate. There is no doubt that if you can get Rudy T, to come out of retirement, you do it in a heartbeat. He is the safe choice maybe, you can get Rudy T. to put Shaw on his ass. coaching staff. And he can groom Shaw to take over for him when he retires again. I dont expect Rudy to coach that long because of his health problem's, maybe for 2 or 3 seasons. And then Shaw can take over.
     
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    I like Brian Shaw, and what he brought to the Lakers during our championship runs, but I really don't think you can give a man the coaching reins when he has no experience at all as an NBA coach. Sure he may be liked by the Laker teammates, but how about the knowledge of X's and O's? And I definitely wouldn't go for Henry Bibby out of USC. Heck, for one he's Mike Bibby's dad, and two you never want to make a transition from college to the pros. It's a totally different system and most coaches don't find the success. I just say we go for any popular name we can find and that's Rudy T. He has an excellent track record, liked by his players, and has two championships under his belt. Excellent choice in my opinion.
     
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    Rudy T,& Shaw would be great sucessful choices for the Lakers to make as the new head coach

    Rudy T Has the experience to make things happen,but Shaw has a lot of passion,and i think he would be great at taking a crack at the Lakers coaching job

    My question is who do you prefer as Lakers coach??
     
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    I want Michael Cooper to be honest...not that I think he'll be great, but because I think he deserves a shot...He was a Laker assistant for years behind Dell Harris, he couldn't find a head coaching job so he went to the WNBA where he has won titles...

    Another name that comes to mind is Larry Drew...he was a Laker assistant under Coach Harris, and I believe he's currently on the Kings (or Nets I forget) ... he's another long time assistant deserving of a shot
     
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    I got an inside scoop and heard that the Lakers are really considering getting Doug Moe to leave Alcohol Rehab and start coaching the Lakers.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">[quote name='notMuchgame']I want Michael Cooper to be honest...not that I think he'll be great, but because I think he deserves a shot...He was a Laker assistant for years behind Dell Harris, he couldn't find a head coaching job so he went to the WNBA where he has won titles...</div>


    I remember Coop, saying after the Sparks won the WNBA chip a few years ago, that he had no desire to be a head coach on the NBA level because the players dont have the same passion or willingness to learn as the woman do. But he didnt know at the time that the Lakers job would be available a few years later. But he would be a solid choice. It seems like everybody thats around Pat Riley ,either as a player under him like B.Scott or an assistant coach like the Van Gundy brothers, become pretty solid coaches. Magic Johnson is probably the only that never really work out.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Henacy:</div><div class="quote_post">
    I remember Coop, saying after the Sparks won the WNBA chip a few years ago, that he had no desire to be a head coach on the NBA level because the players dont have the same passion or willingness to learn as the woman do. But he didnt know at the time that the Lakers job would be available a few years later. But he would be a solid choice. It seems like everybody thats around Pat Riley ,either as a player under him like B.Scott or an assistant coach like the Van Gundy brothers, become pretty solid coaches. Magic Johnson is probably the only that never really work out.</div>

    I'm not sure if Cooper said that then, but he's definitely not saying that now. He's on a local sports show with Norm Nixon, and he has made it clear over the last few years that he would like an opportunity to be a head coach in the NBA...
     
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    My top choice would be Jim Cleamons. If anyone deserves a shot at the head coaching position it's Cleamons. He's knows the ins and outs of the Lakers and has the respect of the players. I think he would be able to transition right into the job and bring minor changes to the system instead of having a radical change to the make-up of the Lakers.

    Rudy T is second on my list of possible options. He's a great coach and individual, but I'm concerned about his health and his inability to get star players to listen. He had a tough time managing the Yao-Francis situation in Houston, which is 10 levels below the Shaq-Kobe one in Los Angeles. Unless Shaq or Kobe is traded, I'd be skeptical on how he could do with the Lakers.

    One coach I'd take a strong look at is former Warrior coach Eric Musselman. He got shafted by the Warriors and deserves a chance to coach again. What I like about Musselman is his ability to get the maximum effort out of less skilled players. He resurrected Earl Boykins and Brian Cardinal's careers in Golden State. He gets his players to hustle and do the little things to win games. I'd like to see what he would be able to accomplish with two superstars under him. As the coach he would open up the offense into a more fast break oriented one. Payton, Kobe, and Rush would thrive in it, and I'm sure this would carry over to making Oneal's job inside the paint easier. After the zone defense was implemented it made the Triangle Offense almost obsolete. Being able to double team Shaq before he posts eliminated his ability to manuever around and forced the Lakers into a more perimeter oriented team. Opening up the offense might spark Onea's interest in the game again instead of having to run the slowed down halfcourt sets he became accustomed to in the Triangle.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">My top choice would be Jim Cleamons. If anyone deserves a shot at the head coaching position it's Cleamons. He's knows the ins and outs of the Lakers and has the respect of the players. I think he would be able to transition right into the job and bring minor changes to the system instead of having a radical change to the make-up of the Lakers.
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    Jim Cleamons might be a solid choice But does he know any other offensive system other than the triangle? And if you do keep the triangle, who would you run it thru with no shaq? You could try to run it hru Kobe out of the guard spot like the Bulls did wth MJ. But he doesnt have the back to the basket post up game MJ had, so how effective would the triangle be then?

    I think that if the Lakers do let Shaq go in a trade. Then they need to bring in a new coach with new ideas to involve a fresh system that can fit the new additions the Lakers make this offseason. And put the Phil Jackson era completely to rest, just my opinion.
     

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