<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">LAS VEGAS -- Expressing pessimism after reviewing NBA owners' initial collective bargaining proposal, the director of the players' union said Monday the league could be heading toward a work stoppage at the conclusion of the 2004-05 season. Union director Billy Hunter addressed several dozen players at the union's annual meeting during a session devoted mainly to labor issues. His message was that history could very well repeat itself, with a distinct possibility there could be a lockout next summer. "We don't come to this process as neophytes. We don't have the same kind of naivety that we had before," Hunter told the Associated Press. "The guys understand that the negotiations could ultimately result in another lockout, and they have to prepare themselves for that. "If the owners are not inclined to retreat from their current proposal, there's a high probability there can be another lockout," Hunter said. </div> The article is a lot longer than this, click here to read the rest of the article including what David Stern has to say.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">LAS VEGAS ? Expressing pessimism after reviewing league owners' initial collective-bargaining proposal, the director of the players' union said yesterday the league could be heading toward a work stoppage after the 2004-05 season. Union director Billy Hunter addressed several dozen players at the union's annual meeting during a session devoted mainly to labor issues. His message was that history could repeat, with a distinct possibility there could be a lockout next summer. "We don't come to this process as neophytes. We don't have the same kind of naivet? that we had before," Hunter told The Associated Press. "The guys understand that the negotiations could ultimately result in another lockout, and they have to prepare themselves for that. "If the owners are not inclined to retreat from their current proposal, there's a high probability there can be another lockout." </div> <font size="1">Full Story courtesy of the Seattle Times.</font> A more condensed version of that article, Accord. What are people's thoughts on having a maximum of four year contracts? There are other concessions being seeked, but I found this one the most interesting.
4 year maximum contracts? I can't really see that one fly with any player in the L. Everyone wants security and to have a 4 year max on their contract means that every 4 years they will stress about where they will play next year. This is something that I don't see the players agreeing to. The second tier players will have to worry about more stars to contend with on the free agent market and the stars will have no real security about their jobs and are looking at the possibility of relocating their family every 4 years. The NBA is already better than the MLB and NFL combined in terms of the CBA, hopefully they can see this and work their differences out. The NBA is already on an upswing of popularity and another lockout will just take everything away in a flash.
The key word here is <font color="DarkRed"><font size="7">COMPROMISE</font></font> I don't like the Hunter went straight to the press with his issues with the current proposal. He's playing it in the press, rather than sitting down with the owners to start talking about where changes could be made. I don't like the move at all. Makes the Players Union look assinine and highly inflexible in thier demands, which is never a good message to convey, IMO.
if it happens again i'm done with the NBA. period. gets back to what i said before,a bunch of spoiled and overpaid crybabies. both sides. when they do this sh.t they show that they dont care about the fans at all. if another lockout occurs i will never ever watch another NBA game or purchase another piece of NBA merchandise. ever.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Dre:</div><div class="quote_post">if it happens again i'm done with the NBA. period. gets back to what i said before,a bunch of spoiled and overpaid crybabies. both sides. when they do this sh.t they show that they dont care about the fans at all. if another lockout occurs i will never ever watch another NBA game or purchase another piece of NBA merchandise. ever.</div> Man, you better not quit JBB too
i dont think there should be a cap on length of contract, they should lower the max amount a player can recieve. some of these contracts, 100$ million plus...its insane. it doesnt help the franchise to have to pay these guys ridiculous salaries. its straight up greed and agent corruption
Greedy Owners-vs-Greedy Players All sports have come down to this..the NHL will be having a strike this coming season,and quite frankly,the entire sports industry is full of it.no wonder a lot of people stopped watching sports because of all the stupidity of selfishness of the athletes,owners...can't say i blame them at all
Yeah, especially these players need to quit whining about crap. Look, that crappiest players in the league make about twice as much as the president! How can these guys be complaining? Some are on over 100 mil contracts! They should consider it moreof an hoor to be able to play in the NBA, and even more of an honor to get paid to play basketball. BTW What's a lockout? It's apparently hapned before, im only 17 so I don't know if its ever happened before when ive been a NBA fan. Can someone explain?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">that crappiest players in the league make about twice as much as the president!</div> That's not true. The presidential salary is $400,000 per year as opposed to the NBA's league minimum which is $366,931. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">BTW What's a lockout? It's apparently hapned before, im only 17 so I don't know if its ever happened before when ive been a NBA fan. Can someone explain?</div> A lockout is something that is not specific to the NBA, it's something that can happen just in the general workplace for the average blue collared joe. It's when the owners basically shut down the league preventing their players from playing (working) because of a labor dispute. It's the same thing like when workers in a factory are having a dispute with the owners of the factory over their salaries or benefits or something of the like and the owners temporarily shut down the factory until the labor dispute is settled. To be blunt, a lockout is basically the same thing as a strike but it's the owners and league officials that lockout the players as opposed to the players striking by not playing (working).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah, especially these players need to quit whining about crap. Look,How can these guys be complaining? Some are on over 100 mil contracts! They should consider it more of an hoor to be able to play in the NBA,and even more of an honor to get paid to play basketball. </div> It's also the Owners who do this type of crap as well as the Players...This is a big problem with the sports industry,esp Baseball...The Owners who are rich,and the Players who are rich,but need more money cause their greedy..i mean there are teachers who are barely getting by on what they make a year,people who are homeless,kids who don't eat reguraly,and this is a big problem... It use to be years ago where players played for the Love of the game in all sports and had to hold jobs in the off-season to make ends meet..now if they don't get that extra 5 millon dollars on top of their 20-30 + million dollar deal they cry there "poor" When stuff like this happens,all i can do is say give me a break...it's all pure BS to me
