Wow.... spoken like a true fanboy. I live in Orlando and am a die hard Magic fan. I watch every game and every now and then head down to the arena and watch them in person... You put Kobe on a plateau as if he were some sort of God. I will reiterate what others have said here, Kobe has Shaq and McGrady has.... well.... you get my point. There is no doubt in my mind after seeing T-Mac playing in person night in and night out, there is no better offensive player in the NBA. He can do EVERYTHING offensively. He DOES have a midrange game, he can drive to the basket, and he can shoot from the outside. He is unguardable. Try sinking a three pointer with 2 guys in your face from 5 feet behind the three point line. Impossible? Not for Mcgrady. He does this consistently. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post"> As far as the Magic go, they have pure shooters that can shoot when given the opportunity. People are saying that all of the focus (defensively) is on McGrady, but that's not true. If that was the case, he'd be leading the league in assists, and the Magic would be in the playoffs. Howard, Lue, Gooden, Gaines...all of these guys are able to hit a shot wide open. So which is it...T-Mac is selfish and won't pass when he is triple teamed, or he's not really being doubled or tripled as much as everyone says? </div> Ok, now you're definitely smoking something. Pure shooters? Howard, Lue, Gooden, Gaines? The only player on the Magic roster who is a "pure shooter" is Pat Garrity who's been keeping Grant Hill cozy at the end of the bench due to injury. Howard/Lue/Gooden/Gaines were VERY incosistent in thier shot making and, believe it or not, out of the four, the only one who I would trust in shooting an open shot would be Lue. Yes, that's right, LUE. That goes to show how many "pure shooters" the Magic have. Another part of Mcgrady's game that doesn't get much attention is his passing. He is a GREAT passer. He always makes smart passes and leads his team in assists as well as scoring. When the double/triple team comes, Mcgrady always gets the ball to the shooters in time.... but the trouble is that the Magic shooters barely ever make the shot. That's why they didn't make the playoffs. That was one of Mcgrady's concerns this season. People never stepped up and made shots when he was double teamed. Everybody just stood and watched. Granted, I would take Kobe over Mcgrady if I were given the option, but to suggest that Kobe is on a different level than McGrady is insane. Shaq DOES make a difference. Let's see how Kobe handles a team by himself (well, I'm pretty sure Kobe and Shaq will both be Lakers next year though...) and then we can have this conversation.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">look, we're spending too much time deabting kobe vs. t-mac. we should let that rest since it seem like its only the kobe groupies who think kobe is so much better. the big question is what yao has to do to step into shaqs league other than put on muscle.</div> Make him run a whole lot this off season. The real problem is his endurance as we all know. And have the mentality he had in the 2 outta 4 games against Shaq. If he can finally build up his endurance and lift. He can get stronger without getting any bigger which is a good thing so he doesn't get any slower. 310lbs is a good size already.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, Sam and KG got most dominant duo pre-ordered.</div> Nah. Due to Cassell's injury, it will probably him worse than last year, which means he won't be good enough to be considered Garnett's sidekick.
Mcgrady > Kobe Its a long read, but if you skip down towards the middle to the analysis he makes alotta sense. (got this from a poster on another BB original post) July 1st: The arrival of Tracy McGrady was also the arrival of the Houston Rockets as a true NBA playoff contender. The Houston Rockets already have one dominating center in Yao Ming and now they have McGrady who is arguably the best shooting guard in the game and one of the top 4 players in the NBA. Sound like a combination for a dynasty in the making? Perhaps. But lets take a deeper look at what we really have. YAO MING: For most Rocket Fans, we have seen the maturation of Yao Ming from a player who was first labeled as the next Rick Smith to possibly becoming the next dominating force in the NBA. In all fairness, Yao has been a little bit of both. At times Yao simply looks unstoppable and one dreams of how great he can become while at other times Yao looks confused and uncoordinated. Maybe I?m being premature and I?m not giving enough credit to a man of his size. I?m sure it?s harder to do the Texas two-step when you are 7 ft 6 compared to 5 ft 10. But, what I have seen from Yao that impresses me more then anything else is his ability to adapt, learn, and improve on his game. The difference between Yao?s first year in the NBA to second year was outstanding. Yao not only improved on his statistical numbers but also became the focal point of the offense that lead to the first playoff birth in five years for the Rockets. I realize some fans will say, what about Steve Francis? Well, Francis of course helped a lot but lets face it, without Yao, I would rather take my chances on the roulette wheel then betting that Francis could lead a Rocket team into the playoffs. Although, Yao has improved greatly, he still lacks the consistency that is needed by an NBA super star. The second most dominating center he is but the playoffs is where you become a legend and last years playoff series against Lakers didn?t exactly make me believe Yao was the next best thing. TRACY MCGRADY: The recently acquired McGrady could be exactly what the Houston Rockets were looking for. Around 1? years ago, I had wrote a small column in another BBS chat forum (www.*****.net/) that the Rockets should try to trade Francis and Mobley to the Orlando Magic for McGrady. Everyone in that forum laughed and mocked me and eventually I got kicked off the BBS forum. It?s ironic what people will do when you have a good idea. But I don?t have sour grapes cause I don?t think that is a good forum (you couldn?t pay me to post another thread in there again) cause you are not allowed to speak your mind but must agree with everything the moderators say in the forum. This is a travesty cause the moderators are often wrong and like I said if you disagree then your account gets disabled. Hopefully, this BBS works differently. But, to progress forward, I still believe that the McGrady trade is a perfect fit for the Rockets now as I did 1? years ago. McGrady is the rare combination of athletic talent, size (length), and speed that are only trumped by Kevin Garnett. Arguably, McGrady is the 4th best player in the NBA. Most experts consider only Garnett, Duncan, and Shaq better. McGrady, like any other great player, creates mismatch problems for opposing teams. That is what makes him such a rare talent. Many NBA Analyst will tell you that McGrady has become just a scoring machine. That McGrady is a player who lacks heart and at times is a crybaby. I can?t disagree with this analysis cause it is true. McGrady is a crybaby and at times doesn?t play to his full potential. However, if you follow McGrady?s career and attitude over the past few years you will realize that the guy wants to WIN. He doesn?t want to win just to have a good record at the end of the season but he wants to WIN IT ALL. He is the type of player who wants an NBA Championship or nothing at all. In Orlando, McGrady had no chance of winning a championship. It was in part cause of Grant Hill?s injury and salary and the other part was Orlando Magic management?s unwillingness to pay for quality frontcourt players that the Magic so desperately needed. So what did McGrady do? McGrady stayed patient and developed his game for three years waiting for Grant Hill to get better and that never happened. By the fourth year, McGrady had enough; he gave the management an ultimatum by stating, you either give me a quality veteran front court player (Elton Brand type player who dishes out 20 points and 10 rebounds per night) or I?m leaving. Orlando Magic answer to McGrady?s needs was, Dwight Howard. McGrady public forced a trade to the Houston Rockets, which is only one of two teams that has a dominating center. So the question remains what type of player is McGrady exactly? Statistically, McGrady is in the top three only behind Garnett and Duncan. Of course McGrady the past two seasons was known for scoring having been the scoring champion (meaning scoring most points per game) the past two seasons. But McGrady is more then just a scorer before coming to Orlando McGrady was known for his all around ball skills. Some have suggested in the past he was the next Scottie Pippen cause of his ability to play great defense, passing ability, court awareness and overall smart play. So, to say McGrady is one-dimensional scoring machine would be false. He is more then that and that is what makes McGrady one of the most difficult matchups in the NBA. McGrady has been labeled the past couple of years as a hog ball and greedy player. I ask in return, whom could McGrady turn to for help? Who could he pass the ball to knowing that they would make a shot? This past year Grant Hill was injured, Pat Garrity was hurt (the only consistent 3 point shooter), they had no consistent inside post player, and Tyron Lue is only good for small stretches of a game, and they lost Armstrong to free agency and Mike Miller through a trade. So, McGrady had become a one-man team in Orlando and was tired of playing 1 on 5. What McGrady needed was a place where he felt that his efforts would amount to something more then a first round exit from the Eastern Conference playoffs and Houston Rockets is the place. The NBA world has not seen the best of McGrady but simply has just gotten a taste of how great he will be. I will describe in the next section why the Yao/Tmac Combo is better then the Shaq/ Kobe combo. YAQ & T-MAC COMBO: This is going to be a great combination for the ages if Yao decides to resign and extend his contract with the Houston Rockets in 2005-2006. However, this combo isn?t going to be anything like Shaq and Kobe even though the NBA analyzers will forever make the comparison. If you look at Shaq?s game compared to Yao?s game they are incredibly different. Same holds true to when comparing Kobe to McGrady. So, lets take a fair assessment and look at how Yao and McGrady will dominate the game. First, I?ll compare Yao and Shaq then I?ll compare McGrady and Kobe. Finally, I will compare how Yao and McGrady will play off each other as opposed to Shaq and Kobe. YAO VS SHAQ: Yao will never be the sledgehammer that Shaq was. Shaq?s game consisted of backing up players deep inside the paint and dislodging whoever was in his way for a dunk or a layup. Sometimes Shaq settles for a 5-10 ft hook but not often. Compare this to Yao who looks for a player in motion and if nobody is open will back the defender and go for a turn around jump shot if not a layup if he is in far enough in but often times can?t get deep enough position. The other major difference is that Yao takes a considerable amount of outside shots for a big man because he can make them. In fact, the only similarities between Yao and Shaq are that if they are doubled/tripled teamed they will pass to the perimeter and look for a three-point shooter. MCGRADY vs KOBE: McGrady was just born with an NBA body (tall, lean, and muscular). McGrady doesn?t need to outwork his opponent because he simply is taller then them or considerably faster then them. Nobody can match both his speed and length in the NBA; therefore, can stop him one-on-one besides maybe Kevin Garnett. What I?m suggesting is that McGrady doesn?t need to outwork his opponent cause he is a natural mismatch. This is why often times you hear that McGrady does things effortlessly, like he isn?t even trying. Well, it?s true; he probably isn?t trying his hardest, especially last season, but give him credit for that cause he doesn?t have to outwork his opponent to beat them on offense or defense. When I see McGrady play I often think of a senior in highschool playing against a junior highschool player in basketball. It just doesn?t seem fair. Compare this to Kobe who I see as an energy player. Kobe beats other players because he simply outworks them. He is extremely well conditioned, has amazing hand speed, and good jumping ability, and unmatched coordination. He uses these gifts to get around players when it doesn?t seem possible. There are few people who work as hard as Kobe in the NBA. Another difference between McGrady and Kobe is that McGrady often time settles for the outside shot rather then taking it into the rim every time. Perhaps the differences are a result of McGrady getting doubled/tripled teamed and he has found it easier to get good looks at the basket by settling for a jump shot rather then getting abused taking it to the rim. Even when McGrady goes into the basket often times he will kick the ball out if there is someone open on the three point line or if someone else is in motion. Contrast this to Kobe who hardly ever settles for an outside shot without at least attempting to go to the basket first. Kobe always seems to want to weave between at least three players and do the impossible before settling for a shot. I find this amazing but yet at the same time, a lot of wasted energy. In some ways Kobe reminds me of how Steve Francis plays because both players are always looking for their shot and trying to penetrate rather then take the easy shot or easy pass. Maybe this is a result of their athletic nature to tend to think they can beat any player one-on-one any given time. When Kobe does go into the basket he hardly ever dishes out to another player but rather would do the fantastic by doing some super human flying act that make you want to compare him to Jordan. The playing style of McGrady and Kobe is mostly the result of the type of player they are but also the atmosphere and teams that they play for. McGrady for the past four years has begged for help and is tired of doing it all on his own and has been humbled by the experience of being in Orlando. Kobe on the other hand has always wanted to get out of the shadow of Shaq. McGrady defines his greatness by winning a championship. Kobe defines his greatness as being the centerpiece of a team and winning a championship without Shaq. [MCGRADY & YAO] vs [KOBE & SHAQ] MCGRADY & YAO: Lets compare how McGrady & Yao will play together. First, I believe McGrady will be more then willing to share the ball with Yao and the rest of the team. McGrady has already stated that he is willing to dump the ball into Yao as many times as he wants as long as that means a championship. This is a big statement but not surprising statement from a guy who was a lone superstar in Orlando. Between Yao and McGrady, I think there is going to be good chemistry between the two players. Both have excellent passing skills, decision-making skills, and are willing to share the ball, and both require double-teaming. This is a huge advantage cause you hardly find two superstars on the same team willing to share the ball unless you are talking about the ALL STAR WEEKEND or the OLYMPIC TEAM. The unselfishness of both McGrady and Yao is going to result in a lot of ball movement and passing. Not just between those two players but the entire team. When your two superstars set an example, usually the rest of the team follow. When good chemistry and unselfishness occurs what results is easy baskets. I think you are going to see a lot more off the ball movement especially between McGrady, Yao, and Jackson. I think there will be plenty of plays where Yao get the ball down low post and dishes a pass to a streaky McGrady going into the paint for a layup or dunk. I also think McGrady is going to do a lot more dribble penetration because Yao?s defender won?t be there to stop McGrady from slamming it home, and even if the defense collapses on McGrady, he can simply kick the ball out to Yao for an easy lay up or dish the ball out to a player on the three point line. McGrady is going to be the catalyst for the offense and make things happen and open things up for the rest of the team and in return Yao is going to require so much attention on offense that McGrady will have an easier time setting up the offense and creating his own shot or someone else?s. KOBE & SHAQ: Have absolutely no chemistry. That is the fundamental reason why they didn?t win. It has nothing to do with the Lakers needing to get more athletic but their down fall is that the two superstars on the Lakers didn?t work together. There is little ball movement between Shaq and Kobe and it was evident throughout the playoffs and regular season. They don?t set each other up let alone create shots for their teammates. Both players ego?s are so big that they are not willing to play within a team concept. Kobe is more to blame then Shaq. Kobe at times tries to do too much and really doesn?t accept his role as second fiddle to Shaq even though it?s led to three NBA championship rings for Kobe. For all the individual greatness that these two players have their dominance never really reached the height that it could have been. CONCLUSION: Yao Ming & McGrady is going to be a better combination in the end then Kobe & Shaq but not more dominating. Domination is a word that should also be seen as being unstoppable by some physical force. Only Shaq fits into that category cause the rules allowed him to brutalize players down in the paint. However, even if they are not as dominating, I think Ming & McGrady will be more difficult to stop and contend with cause they will have better chemistry amongst themselves as well as with the Rocket Team in general. The Houston Rockets did a fantastic job of acquiring McGrady even though McGrady initiated the trade by stating that he wanted out of Orlando and stated that Houston was the only place he would sign a contract extention with. So, Orlando really had no choice but to trade McGrady if they wanted any quality players in return. Give the Rocket Management some credit though. They were willing to part with All-Star Steve Francis and quality role player in Catino Mobley and Cato. Therefore, although the trade was a no brainer it is still considered a bold move considering you are trading away the players who consisted of the heart of the team the past 4 of the 5 years. But, don't be fooled this was a home run trade for the Rockets by all measures. Now that the Rockets have McGrady & Yao?prepare for a dynasty in the making.
Man YaoDynasty's post was long, but really awesome. I'm still not sure if Yao and T-mac will be better then Kobe and Shaq, only time will tell. That would be a pretty cool 2 on 2 game. A lot of players say stuff like they would sacrifice for the team (the glove) but when it comes down to it they play like they always too, so when the season starts we'll see if t-mac is true to his word.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Nah. Due to Cassell's injury, it will probably him worse than last year, which means he won't be good enough to be considered Garnett's sidekick.</div> Cassel has made a full-recovery. He will be better than last year if anything. Count on tem being the biggest duo.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Nah. Due to Cassell's injury, it will probably him worse than last year, which means he won't be good enough to be considered Garnett's sidekick.</div> Cassell has had this back/hip problems since his days with the Nets. It acts up every once an awhile, he seems to always have work done on his back area during the offseason. And it ends up being just fine the following season. All he will have to do is go back to wearing the flight vest under his jersey to protect his back & hip area like he did with the Bucks. Sam will be just fine,this is the normal for him. But I think that if Hudson returns to the wolves, Sam # will probably be affected the most because him & Hudson will be splitting ball-handling duties pretty evenly. Cassell's scoring will probably go down but his assist # should go up, if he has a healthy Wally, Kandi, Hudson (to go along with Spree & KG) for an entire season.
T-Mac and Yao shouldn't even compare to Shaq and Kobe.... they'll never ever be mentioned in the same breath as the Great duo's such as Shaq and Kobe, Scottie and Jordan, Malone and Stockton etc. Following the first of what will hopefully be many big trades this offseason, I found myself thinking. Not about Steve Francis, who just wasn't a Van Gundy point guard, and who might very well get dealt again before the season starts. No, I'm curious how new Rocket Tracy McGrady will adapt to the following: 1) Playing for Jeff Van Gundy. In Orlando -- out of necessity, more than anything, mind you -- the entire offense was set up around T-Mac. Let him get his 30/40/50 points and hope it's enough. It won't be that way in Houston. For starters, defense comes first, then you worry about the offense. Like it or not, Yao Ming's gonna get plenty of touches. And the offense should run through Yao, whether it's a modified version of the triangle, or just a solid post-up, pick-and-roll game. You don't put a 7-5 guy down under the basket and ignore him most of the time, unless he's 7-6 and named Shawn Bradley. 2) Playing with Yao Ming. One of the most overlooked things about Kobe Bryant is that he's been able to play as well as he has with Shaq taking up all that space in the lane. Yes, he still shoots too much, but imagine how much he can't do because of Shaq's presence. It's hard to slash to the basket when there's a 7-2, 340-pound dude planted in front of it, even if he's your teammate. Michael Jordan never played with a dominant big man, which I think was good for him, because it allowed him to remain the center of everything. With a dominant big, there would have been too much overlap, and someone would have felt left out. That's exactly what happened in L.A. Kobe and Shaq worked well enough together to get three rings (some credit due Phil Jax), but the tension between them finally got to be too much. They both wanted to be the man, and there's only room for one per team. How will it work out with Tracy and Yao? 3) Playing in the Western Conference. This is not a game. Yeah, the Rockets are more stacked than the Magic and they should do better, but this is the West. That means twice as many games against Minnesota, San Antonio, Sacramento, Dallas, LA, even Phoenix and Memph. Not to mention the Western Conference's newest addition, New Orleans. Tracy better get his cardio on and rest that tricky back. 4) Attitude and perception. When you're only 25 and already playing for your second team and telling people that you want out, that you don't want to stick around for rebuilding on a team that gave you a max deal -- showering you with cash when you weren't even a true star yet -- that's shady. I know it wasn't T-Mac's fault that Grant's ankle is applesauce, or that Drew Gooden and Juwan Howard played the same position, or that the Magic's drafts prior to this one were shaky (well, except for T-Mac's best friend on the team, Mike Miller, who they, uh, traded), or that the best center they've had in the past five years was a fossilized Patrick Ewing, but at some point you have to step up claim your own and take responsibility. The coach and the GM got fired, you got the number one pick and the number 20. You're the star -- you're supposed to convince other people to join you. That's what stars do. Look back. His first three years in the League, Michael Jordan and the Bulls went 1-9 in the first round of the playoffs, getting swept the last two years by the Celtics. Did he demand a trade to Detroit or L.A.? No -- he stayed and helped develop the people around him into winners. Bad example? How about Kevin Garnett? In '95-96, as a rookie, the Wolves went 26-56 and missed the playoffs. The following season, with rookie point Stephon Marbury, they went 40-42 and lost 3-0 in the first round, then 45-37 and lost 3-2 in the first, then 25-25 and 3-1. 2000, 2001, 2002? 3-1, 3-1, 3-0. All in the first round. Am I suggesting that these numbers compare to Orlando's horrific 21-61 record last year? No. But still, KG could have demanded a move to a more favorable location. He didn't. He stayed there and made it work. There may very well be other circumstances involved in Orlando. Word had it that Tracy was disappointed in not being consulted about the Juwan Howard signing (funny, since they'll remain teammates in Houston). But at some point -- before it gets to "trade me or I don't re-sign" -- don't you demand that kind of respect? Don't you discuss what you can all do to make things better? Isn't that what teams do? I'm willing to give Tracy the benefit of the doubt. Maybe these discussions did happen, and maybe Tracy felt it was best for all involved that he left town. But the reality is, this is a third team at age 25. What happens if it doesn't work here? link
For any ignorant fan who thinks T-Mac is better than Kobe, this quote says it all. Weisbrod has talked about changing the culture of losing that suffocated the Magic during a 21-61 season. He said he felt McGrady contributed to it by not acting like a driven leader and a committed professional, although he agreed that previous management did little to surround T-Mac with enough talent during his four seasons. Weisbrod wants to rebuild the club with passionate competitors, "guys who want to cover Kobe Bryant," he said. "Maybe he [McGrady] will develop into that, but he's not now." I love this quote by T-Mac... Two days after the Magic lost to the Lakers, they were drilled by Golden State 110-85. After the game, McGrady questioned what the Magic -- 32 games under .500 -- were playing for, rankling Weisbrod and the coaching staff. Weeks later, when a doctor or trainer was examining McGrady's left knee, which he said had been ailing him, he asked McGrady where it hurt. "Where do you want it to hurt?" McGrady was to have said, and it got back to Weisbrod.
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA..... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">wow. u really havent done your homework have you? McGrady had a much better fg% this year than Kobe! </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">McGrady's FG% - .417 FT% - .796 MPG - 39.9 min Kobe's FG% - .438 FT% - .852 MPG - 37.6 min I did my homework.</div>
Dude thats just bull Tmac wouldnt say that. Tmacs a good guy. Remember that kid who was almost shot by the washington sniper and the kid said TMAC was his favorite playeR? Tmac took him to almost half of the games for the rest of the season and got him courtside seats for their playoff games in 02-03. Whereas Kobe cheats on his wife and makes up for it by buying her a 10 million dollar ring. And Skillwise Tmac tops Kobe. Tmac has the leagues best first step and has a better perimeter game then kobe. He also doesnt have shaq to take away the double teams. Ppl say Tmac has no defense. He plays good defense when he can but he normally cant cuz he spends so much energy on the offensive side of the game getting points for his team. No one else on his team can hit the open jumper consistently and make there own shot. Its all up to TMAC. TMac over Kobe no contest
Tmac looks like he is halfasleep when he plays basketball. imagine what he can do if he was fully awake
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TMAC_LIVE:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude thats just bull Tmac wouldnt say that. Tmacs a good guy. Remember that kid who was almost shot by the washington sniper and the kid said TMAC was his favorite playeR? Tmac took him to almost half of the games for the rest of the season and got him courtside seats for their playoff games in 02-03. Whereas Kobe cheats on his wife and makes up for it by buying her a 10 million dollar ring. And Skillwise Tmac tops Kobe. Tmac has the leagues best first step and has a better perimeter game then kobe. He also doesnt have shaq to take away the double teams. Ppl say Tmac has no defense. He plays good defense when he can but he normally cant cuz he spends so much energy on the offensive side of the game getting points for his team. No one else on his team can hit the open jumper consistently and make there own shot. Its all up to TMAC. TMac over Kobe no contest</div> That sums it up nicely These people that are saying Kobe is better are just huge fanboys, so your opinion doesnt count.
For all the guys who claim Kobe fans are just "fanboys" or whatever...why wouldn't that be the case for McGrady fans? Nobody liked him when he was a loser on the Raptors, but when he got his own team and started being a selfish player, he became this huge superstar in the East. Here's my take on this situation: last year, in alot of forums, guys that didn't like Kobe would still say that he's one of the best players in the league. Well, I go through the forums this season and all I see are guys saying, "He's nothing without Shaq. He can't win. He can't lead a team to a ring." Okay...well if he can't, fine. Neither can McGrady. Everyone just likes to jump on the bandwagon and hate Kobe for his legal troubles...and now that he's got a flaw, guys like to bring that out and use it to discredit him, on and off the court. Come on...the Magic started the season 0-18. Stop giving McGrady so much credit. Look how he played when he was alongside Vince Carter. Put T-Mac on the same team as Shaq, and he'll be playing like he's 12 years old. For a more accurate statement, "Superman" won't be winning games with McGrady, because playing on the same team as T-Mac is like playing with kryptonite. Ask Howard, Gooden, Lue, and the rest of the Magic. Good luck Yao.
Honestly, T-mac said he just wants a ring. He said it is still Yao's team. You guys need to watch ESPN, or something.
Well, from the opinion of an outsider, one who cares for neither T-MAc or Kobe, I would say T-Mac is better. Hoestly guys, What has Kobe really proven? Hes been caried to 3 championships by the most dominant player in the league. T-Mac has been a hard working player for a really bad team, I don't blame him for being frustrated. Kobe just gets more glamour than T-Mac, especially since hes on the Lakers. But look guys, they will prbably both be in the West next year, so then we will see whos the better player.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Nah. Due to Cassell's injury, it will probably him worse than last year, which means he won't be good enough to be considered Garnett's sidekick.</div> The only way an injury will slow you down that much is if you don't take the steps to recover from it. Like someone said earlier, Cassell has pretty much recovered. And, even if he isn't "good enough" to be KGs side kick, they have Spree still. Equally as good offensively as Cassell. But, to go there, Cassell, I'm almost positive will come back 100% and be just as good, or, who knows, maybe better, than he was last year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, from the opinion of an outsider, one who cares for neither T-MAc or Kobe, I would say T-Mac is better. Hoestly guys, What has Kobe really proven? Hes been caried to 3 championships by the most dominant player in the league. T-Mac has been a hard working player for a really bad team, I don't blame him for being frustrated. Kobe just gets more glamour than T-Mac, especially since hes on the Lakers. But look guys, they will prbably both be in the West next year, so then we will see whos the better player.</div> What has Kobe proven? Oh nothing much apparently. Just that he's the best clutch player in the game today. I dunno, I think somewhere in those 2 First Team Defense selections, he's probably proven he can defend. Maybe in those what, 3 All NBA First Team selections he's proven he's a good player. He's proven he can play through off the court problems. I think, the only thing that he hasn't proven is if he can carry a team by himself, no Shaq. Well, we'll likely be seeing that next year. Hey, and you ask what Kobe has proven, I'm gonna fire back a couple questions at you. What HASN'T Kobe proven, outside of what I mentioned, and, what has TMac proven thus far in his career?
K I don't know what T-Mac has proven. I honestly hardly know crap of T-Mac's details. ABout Kobe,all hes got is AS selections and Defense Team selctions. Kobe hasnt proved that he can carry a team(soon to be seen), that he is a superstar, overall, that he deserves the massive amount of credit he gets. I mean, that stuff is just the success of a general, good player. Not a superstar. Superstars never give up, they carry team to titles , get MVP awards etc. Come on, you have to agree that Kobe has a lot t prove to show that hes as good of a player as hes made outto be. No? Well T-Mac does too, but Kobe obviosuly in the lead so far as accomplishemnts. I'm just gonna say that we will probably all begin to see this next season.
