<div class="quote_poster">Quoting mcgrdmagic:</div><div class="quote_post">how about drew gooden cuttino mobley and a future first for vince carter?</div> I suppose you waived your magic wand and the salary cap and CBA disappeared? Trade Checker at realgm.com Use it.
Well honestly, I mean how good is VC anyways? I mean he's really only known for being able to dunk. I mean what else can he do? And i'm not sure hes really valuable to a team. I'll be interested to see what trade brews up. I don't expect the Raprs to get another star for him, i just don't think hes really worth much to other teams. He may make some good duos with other players, but I think VC is used to having everything handed to him.
i didnt mean davis some one wrote does he have any value so thats what i ment from the post b4 i should of put a quote
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KG-MVP:</div><div class="quote_post">Well honestly, I mean how good is VC anyways? I mean he's really only known for being able to dunk. I mean what else can he do? And i'm not sure hes really valuable to a team. I'll be interested to see what trade brews up. I don't expect the Raprs to get another star for him, i just don't think hes really worth much to other teams. He may make some good duos with other players, but I think VC is used to having everything handed to him.</div> i dont think you've watched too many raptor games, or even know your stats 22, 5 and 5 is someone who can only dunk? not worth much to other teams? he's arguably the most popular player in the entire league. he sells tickets. aside from his numbers which you cant question, he sells tickets and fills seats, which is VERY valuable. to all you people proposing these ridiculous trades like drew gooden and cat mobley...sit down and think about it. are the raptors going to let their franchise player, their ticket seller, their main attraction go for a couple of role players? babcock has already said himself that he's not going to do it unless he gets a similar player in return. READ the link.
ya someppl r pretty stupid i realize and thinks that all vince does is dunk, but in reality he doesn't even dunk that muhc ocmpared to the past, he is truly a complete player now, and i think he can even be better if he were the2nd option of a team
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting McGrady^1:</div><div class="quote_post">ya someppl r pretty stupid i realize and thinks that all vince does is dunk, but in reality he doesn't even dunk that muhc ocmpared to the past, he is truly a complete player now, and i think he can even be better if he were the2nd option of a team</div> well...i dunno if he's a "complete" player...his defense is suspect, and some days he's at the stripe 10-15 times a game, others he's there twice all game long. he's not complete, but hes a premier player. definetly a SICK 2nd punch in a 1+2 punch combo
anderson's contract is a pain in the ass and, we'd be screwing over our franchise when a guy like Randolph is the star.
Paul Pierce for Vince Carter could happen, but the thing is, they both basically have the exact same contracts. Carter and Pierce are the same age and are both going into their 6th season in the NBA. But Vince Carter averaged .4 less points per game lass season, plus he's 100 times more likely to get injured. Don't do it Boston!
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Celtz34:</div><div class="quote_post">Paul Pierce for Vince Carter could happen, but the thing is, they both basically have the exact same contracts. Carter and Pierce are the same age and are both going into their 6th season in the NBA. But Vince Carter averaged .4 less points per game lass season, plus he's 100 times more likely to get injured. Don't do it Boston!</div> vince avg'd 4 points less per game, and he had donyell marshall and jalen rose and chris bosh on his team. i think those 2 extra buckets could easily be made up vince also only missed 9 games last season and is spending the summer strength training and conditioning...i think its not a strech to think he's over the worst of his injuries. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pidandsid:</div><div class="quote_post">plain and simple - VC for Randolph and Anderson</div> why do the raptors do this? we get two players that we dont need. raptors need a point guard and a center. although anderson spent some minutes at the point last season, he's not a true point guard, and if we're gonna have someone playing point who isnt a pg, we might as well just throw jalen back there. no thanks, the team needs a pg and a center. this doesnt help the team in that department. we'd be stacked with pf's. who plays center? raps are still undersized if that went down
VC has been relatively injury free last year if youve watched, and Peirce did have bad FG and 3 percentages compared to VC last season.(They're going into their 7th season).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kaillou:</div><div class="quote_post">I guess hes no better than his cousin. Pretty disapointing, but not suprising. Pretty pathetic, too. Can you not atleast see how the team pans out, especially since he already said he wants to see if this team can get into the playoffs? Dont contradict yourself Vince.</div> Vince has said next to nothing the whole offseason. It was Babcock who said him and Carter were on the same page. Vince never says anything because hes smart. Otherwise these rumorus com eas no surprised to me, they have just been resurfaced and are fueleld by the pick of Rafael Araujo. And ot all of these silly trades, just stop. Sure we won't get soembody 'worth' as much as Carter(or to some we will get people better thann Carter), but we'll get respectale, notable players in return. the pierce trade sounds plausible, but I still don't think Carter will, or can be traded out of Toronto. I still think he's staying. I mean he's wearing the Purple VC4s to his camps. (stupid argument, I don't care)
While the source told Aldridge that Carter presented four to six different trade proposals to the Raptors, the team has not granted Carter permission to seek a trade and Babcock said that the team has no plans to trade Carter. from the article on espn.com HE HAS NO PLANS TO TRADE HIM and notice how is says A SOURCE when was the last time a source was right
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thedude9990:</div><div class="quote_post"> from the article on espn.com HE HAS NO PLANS TO TRADE HIM and notice how is says A SOURCE when was the last time a source was right</div> when "a source" reported that steve nash has agreed to a contract with phoenix or how about when "a source" reported that t-mac is going to houston for francis
it wasnt a source who reptored nash the suns reported it and it wasnt a source for the tmac one either it was a person who reported it but this is a annonomis (if thats how u spell it) source and those are always b/s
This is truly unbeliavable, the fans of Toronto supported Vince throughout everything he has gone thourgh, and now he wants out. Also, I am pretty embarassed to be a 76ers fan with the comment on the first page. How can you even think that Carter could bring something to the table in Philadelphia, yet alone win a championship? My God!
I hope to god they dont trade vc for ai. AI is dead, he'll be injured so badly next year I can hear the media laughing at him... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">This is truly unbeliavable, the fans of Toronto supported Vince throughout everything he has gone thourgh, and now he wants out.</div> Very true
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The broadcast report had an unnamed league source as saying "He (Carter) desperately wants out. He doesn't like the direction of the team" </div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">In turn, the Toronto Star spoke the Babcock in Minnesota. And he said: "I don't know anything about that (report). I don't know where that came from. I had a good conversation with Vince, and nothing's led me to believe that's changed." </div> Use your brains and rationalize. An unnamed league source versus current Raptors GM Rob Babcock. Which source is more credible? Even a 10 year old can figure that out.. a coward who doesn't wanna put his name to what he said versus a legitimate title holder who isn't afraid of shutting down rumours in a dime.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sasha:</div><div class="quote_post">This is truly unbeliavable, the fans of Toronto supported Vince throughout everything he has gone thourgh, and now he wants out. Also, I am pretty embarassed to be a 76ers fan with the comment on the first page. How can you even think that Carter could bring something to the table in Philadelphia, yet alone win a championship? My God!</div> Sasha, Are you talking about my comment? If so I just feel that AI has did the most he could for Philly and I feel that eventually there going to be nothing else to do but test the waters. You can't have the same nucleus every year and then say 5 years later win a ring, it just don't happen and that's in all sports.
If this source and report is true, then Vince Carter is truley a whiner. He's upset about our draft pick? Who else does he expect us to pick? Iggy? Luke Jackson? Josh/JR Smith. Unless he wants to share time and help them develop (Smiths) then he has a right to be angry. They drafted a guy that makes the team better. It gives him space to drive. Rafael cleans up the lane with his size and bulk, and he sees that as a negative? Give me a break. The team has gone downwards the past 3 seasons. He could have a good reason to demand a trade had he played over 2 thirds of the game. But he hasn't. He gets paid a bulk of money. This team is heading somewhere now with a new look (Bosh, Rafael, Sam Mitchell, Babcock) to go with their marquee players, and are about to make a run at the playoffs, when he asks for a trade
