Another Trade Proposal

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting thefranchise3:</div><div class="quote_post">Steve Francis is my favorite player, but I can easily say that he would not make this team win more than Vince (or help at all for that matter). This organization can win next season if we add a few key parts, I don't think this would make us any better. Cuttino is overrated because of his scoring numbers, I've heard Rockets fans complain about his poor shot selection and decisions (something we can't use). I think both the Magic and Raptors would deny this trade, because I still can't see how it works out for both teams in any way.

If you say Vince can sell more tickets that Francis (if thats true), that would be a plus for Orlando and a negative for us, along with that we don't get any better in terms of talent, and they don't get any better in terms of winning. We wouldn't use Jameer to his full ability because hed be coming off the bench, and Grant Hill is another big contract.

The Raptors are looking to get in the playoffs next season because our core group of guys can be productive when healthy, the NY daily post reported that Vince didn't ask for a trade, which is as credible as the source that said he did. If thats the case this trade doesn't even need to take place.</div>

yeah i think vince is a better player than francis as well when healthy. although, i dispute what u say about this about the raptors getting into the playoffs next season. yeah, i'm sure they can since the east from 4-13 is weak but the raptors need to retool to contend for a championship. vince has taken us to the second round once. its clear we need to trade vince, i don't care if he wants to be here or not. and btw, i understand that mobley has questionable shot selection but he can't be any worse than a.williams.

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry, my fault I was in a hurry, getting Vince and Jalen for the Magic would just be like getting Juwan and Tmac back except with bigger contracts (Jalen makes more than Juwan), and them getting Alvin would just be like having Grant Hill again except he gets injured less and when not injured isn't as good. What are the benefits really? Ticket sales which will only rise if they win not if they have Vince, and they can win with their current players.

Also in the trade the Magic give up a young PG in Jameer Nelson, it makes mroe sense for them to just go with the team they have now and make minor changes but not anything major.</div>

so its bad for them but good for us? i'm assuming that because u don't say anything bad about our end.

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Well it's not the greatest trade for us either, Francis isn't taking us anywhere Vince can't, Hill is a huge contract we have to absorb, and Mobley isn't really anything special, but I think losing Jameer will be a lot for them, their PG's will be Rose and Alvin?

So whats the basis of the trades:

Vince for Francis and Jameer
Rose for Grant Hill
Alvin Williams for Mobley

 

(Jalen makes more than Juwan)

Jalen cost as much as 3 Juwans

 

Haha I know that's true too, but Hill costs as much as 3 Alvins

 

Yea that's true. Considering we didn't have Jalen Rose, would you trade Alvin Williams for Grant Hill straight up? Considering their contracts, injury histories, and the fact that we might get Hudson and Rose isn't on the roster.