<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">What's with all these people with horrible false hope, I knew we weren't getting Dampier since day 1, I settled that with myself, he would be a waste of our money. Do you actually think Golden State want's the contracts or Alvin, Donyell (good one), and Lammond? Not even the contracts, they don't really need any of them as players either, they're a decently deep team, and with some more additions they'll be good (in depth). </div> I agree. I would love it if the Raps were able to get Dampier but I'm pretty sure we wouldn't have a chance if we were only to give up Marshall and a filler(s), especially a filler with an unattractive contract such as Alvin or Lammond. With all the insane dealings going on this off-season, I'm sure there'll be plenty of teams bidding for his services that would have MUCH better offers on the table. I think the only way to get him would be through a trade involving VC or Bosh and I don't think any Raptor fan would be willing to do that (unless of course, VC demands a trade).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">What's with all these people with horrible false hope, I knew we weren't getting Dampier since day 1, I settled that with myself, he would be a waste of our money. Do you actually think Golden State want's the contracts or Alvin, Donyell (good one), and Lammond? Not even the contracts, they don't really need any of them as players either, they're a decently deep team, and with some more additions they'll be good (in depth). PG - NVE / Claxton SG - J-Rich / Pietrus SF - Dunleavy / Pietrus PF - Murphy / Cliff / Biedrins C - Foyle / Biedrins / Eschmeyer or........ PG - NVE / Claxton / Alvin SG - J-Rich / Pietrus SF - Dunleavy / Lammond / Pietrus PF - Murphy / Marshall / Cliff / Biedrins C - Foyle / Biedrins </div> the contracts suck, thats for sure. but its not up to Gstate...damp has already opted out...so im sure gstate would LOVE to get something in return in the way of sign and trade, rather then just loose damp for nothing. if i were gstate, id rather have an expiring contract and a double double machine then nothing. we have a shot at him...it may be a slim shot, but its a shot
I'm wondering why we didn't go after McDyess when we still had some money to sign someone....I know he's a PF but he has the size to play some center. If the Araujo struggles, he could've started for us or come off the bench if Araujo plays well (as if that's going to happen) he only signed for 4y/23 million....he's a risk but I still think he has something left and he was an all-star when he was healthy. thoughts?
Keon Is keon still injured? I think he is a free agent this year,but I haven't heard anything about him. Let bring back all the old raps :mrgreen: <font color="red">Merged your thread here. -Franchise</font>
he insulted VC, i don't think he wants to be back.. every time he leaves a team he insult the team (Kings, Raps)
you have a good point there, but it would be kinda cool to see bosh and keon. The match stick front court.
Yeah...let's just leave toothpick legs in the f.a. market so he can go to another team and build up a bad rep there as well.
well...it looks like damp is going to the knicks or the ATL. knicks are offering nazr and othella in a sign and trade. atl is offering money i dont get it...you'd think that g-state would rather have donyell, moiso and a furture first rounder. or donyell and lammond and a future first rounder. seems like a better deal to me. so with damp off the market, looks like the raps are gonna need to make a trade in order to get a center. who should we go after? is zydrunas an option? maybe haywood from washington?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post"> i dont get it...you'd think that g-state would rather have donyell, moiso and a furture first rounder. or donyell and lammond and a future first rounder. seems like a better deal to me. </div> Well, what makes you think the Raptors offered either of those trades? I highly doubt they did..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post"> so with damp off the market, looks like the raps are gonna need to make a trade in order to get a center. who should we go after? is zydrunas an option? maybe haywood from washington?</div> i was promoting haywood for a long time. maybe vince for haywood and arenas. we could play arenas at the two, besides i think thats his natural position anyways. but i guess that would make them guard heavy and they would only be left with jefferies and k.brown up front if they don't match e.thomas offer sheet so that trade seems problematic for the wizards.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post"> i dont get it...you'd think that g-state would rather have donyell, moiso and a furture first rounder. or donyell and lammond and a future first rounder. seems like a better deal to me. so with damp off the market, looks like the raps are gonna need to make a trade in order to get a center. who should we go after? is zydrunas an option? maybe haywood from washington?</div> I've wanted Haywood, for a long, long time, but I guess you have to go with whats realistic. Most of these ideas seem fair, but you have to think to yourself... Is either Rob Babcock or Washington even thinking about a trade (that involves Haywood). He would be an excellent pickup but I don't see how it could happen (or thought of) other than just a realistic trade idea from a fan. Also, I think getting Dampier is out of the question unless the Knicks get him for a deal involving Vince, which would be out of the question in Babcock's eyes. Right now I'm not going to get caught up in getting a C right now, because with our cap space and the reality of getting a deal done it doesn't seem likely to happen. Maybe we can get someone for cheap with our 1.5 mil left from LLE, but that wouldn't help us that much.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">i was promoting haywood for a long time. maybe vince for haywood and arenas. we could play arenas at the two, besides i think thats his natural position anyways. but i guess that would make them guard heavy and they would only be left with jefferies and k.brown up front if they don't match e.thomas offer sheet so that trade seems problematic for the wizards.</div> Yes it would, but Kwame has been bulking up to possibly play center, the Wizards could go with a lineup of: PG - Arenas SG - Hughes SF - Hayes PF - Jamison C - Kwame Haywood as backup C, along with John Ramos who likely won't contribute but I think is a draft steal, and JJ really isn't a PF, but he was rebounding well there last season. It's not certain, but it's possible, I don't like it though, Hayes is not a SF and will never reach his full potential playing the 3. Anyways, Haywood is their only real Center/ backup big man depending on how the lineup goes, thats able to play consistent minutes right now, so the trade won't go also because we don't have much to offer for him righh now. Washington doesn't really need depth except for at the PF/C, so why would they give up a PF/C?
Steven Hunter is available Steven Hunter is available, he was just released by Cleveland. Do u think we should pick him up? He is cheap and I would rather have him than Loren Woods. <font color="red">Merged your thread here. -Franchise</font>
i prefer woods. woods is much more skilled on the offensive game and hunter is too raw for my liking. although, the raps could probably get both.
Jeez, both Woods and Hunter have been like Moiso: underachievers. Both of them are not worth signing and would be wastes of money and roster spaces.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Jeez, both Woods and Hunter have been like Moiso: underachievers. Both of them are not worth signing and would be wastes of money and roster spaces.</div> so who do u suggest babcock signs for the league minimum? i've pushed for robert traylor but he's been picked up so our options are limited. beggars can't be choosers; with the raps being over the cap and coming off another lottery season we are still beggars.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">so who do u suggest babcock signs for the league minimum? i've pushed for robert traylor but he's been picked up so our options are limited. beggars can't be choosers; with the raps being over the cap and coming off another lottery season we are still beggars.</div> Well, we're not totally limited to the minimum, so someone like Vin Baker, Mikki Moore, Scott Williams, Sean Rooks and Kevin Willis should be considered. We need veterans who have proven themselves in the league and is dependable to produce right away, not some youngster who we hope can be a gem.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">SKinner will be getting more than 1.6 million, look at how much everyone is getting paid this off-season, and Skinner a Center (more of a PF), who averaged 10.5 points, 7.3 rebounds, and 1.05 blocks in 28 minutes isn't going to be gotten for that kind of money. Especially since he made like 1.4 million last year, and he opted out of making 1.65 million this year.</div> I don't know about that. It's getting a little late into the off-season and with all the huge contracts that were thrown out, alot of teams aren't able to afford players they would like. Skinner deserves more, but I think this may be one of those situations where he sings a one year contract for something in the 1.5 million range and hopes he has an impressive year and can get a big contract next year. Sort of like what Rafer Alston just did.
