<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">Tom (KC, MO): Have GMs gone insane? The Hedo deal with the Magic, Skip to my Lou in Toronto, GS reupping with Foyle (even the Nash deal) all seemed to be a little pricey. Is this just a case of teams having too much cap room for a less than great FA class? Chad Ford: (1:52 PM ET ) Exactly. I'm not sure it's insanity. Teams are impatient. They have needs. They want to lock up guys before they shop themselves around. I agree with you, however, the deals this season seem awfully high. But with so much cash on the market you knew someone was going to overpay. With that said . . . Adonal Foyle for $42 million? Please</div> Yeah I totally agree. There are a whole bunch of guys about to start making money in the 5 million dollar range per season that probably don't deserve it. I could add a Lamond Murray comment here, but I'm gonna take the high road. (and he's only gonna make 5 million for 1 more season. he he) <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see a point in acquiring Dampier. If we were to acquire Dampier, than the Araujo selection was a complete waste. Araujo is ready to play now, he's 24, spent 4 years in college, unlike many other players coming to the league now days. He doesn't need a 9 Million dollar player playing ahead of him, especially in the East. If we were to trade Marshall, it would be for some depth and quality players. Two of our starters from last year will likely be on the bench this year (Marshall and Williams), so that will improve our bench. However we need role players not Dampier. We can get role players by trading away Marshall, but it's not a must.</div> Yeah I agree. Araujo is already 24 and he is way more mature than your average rookie. He needs to get out there right away and get his experience in. We can only dream he'll catch on as quick as Bosh did. Isn't it great having Williams and Marshall off the bench. It's almost like we have a bench this year. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">they would probably want donyell and montross' contract which expires next season to give them cap room to sign j.rich. of course that would be predicated on them having no interest in signing dampier for big money and wanting something in return like cap space.btw, as aformentioned i watched the summer league game today and i think bonner can give most of what marshall gave us without the shot blocking. in fact, bonner looked really good, he can be an ideal fourth or fifth big off the bench. plus, he would be cheap and u would want that if want to keep hefty contracts on your roster.</div> Oh god I forgot we were still paying Montross. That's depressing. Almost as depressing as watching Akeem get paid for like 2 years and not even being with the team. <font color="red">Please use the edit button rather than posting in succession. -Franchise</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see a point in acquiring Dampier. If we were to acquire Dampier, than the Araujo selection was a complete waste. Araujo is ready to play now, he's 24, spent 4 years in college, unlike many other players coming to the league now days. He doesn't need a 9 Million dollar player playing ahead of him, especially in the East. If we were to trade Marshall, it would be for some depth and quality players. Two of our starters from last year will likely be on the bench this year (Marshall and Williams), so that will improve our bench. However we need role players not Dampier. We can get role players by trading away Marshall, but it's not a must.</div> Yeah I agree. Araujo is already 24 and he is way more mature than your average rookie. He needs to get out there right away and get his experience in. We can only dream he'll catch on as quick as Bosh did. Isn't it great having Williams and Marshall off the bench. It's almost like we have a bench this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">they would probably want donyell and montross' contract which expires next season to give them cap room to sign j.rich. of course that would be predicated on them having no interest in signing dampier for big money and wanting something in return like cap space.btw, as aformentioned i watched the summer league game today and i think bonner can give most of what marshall gave us without the shot blocking. in fact, bonner looked really good, he can be an ideal fourth or fifth big off the bench. plus, he would be cheap and u would want that if want to keep hefty contracts on your roster.</div> Oh god I forgot we were still paying Montross. That's depressing. Almost as depressing as watching Akeem get paid for like 2 years and not even being with the team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eclipse:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm wondering why we didn't go after McDyess when we still had some money to sign someone....I know he's a PF but he has the size to play some center. If the Araujo struggles, he could've started for us or come off the bench if Araujo plays well (as if that's going to happen) he only signed for 4y/23 million....he's a risk but I still think he has something left and he was an all-star when he was healthy. thoughts?</div> After signing Akeem to that big guaranteed contract and having to pay him all that money for nothing for those 2-3 years after he retired, the Raps wouldn't want to give a maybe injured player any type of big contract ever again. Just a reminded we're still paying Eric Montross this year too I do believe. Yes he's still on the books.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting grinder333:</div><div class="quote_post">Yeah I totally agree. There are a whole bunch of guys about to start making money in the 5 million dollar range per season that probably don't deserve it. I could add a Lamond Murray comment here, but I'm gonna take the high road. (and he's only gonna make 5 million for 1 more season. he he) Yeah I agree. Araujo is already 24 and he is way more mature than your average rookie. He needs to get out there right away and get his experience in. We can only dream he'll catch on as quick as Bosh did. Isn't it great having Williams and Marshall off the bench. It's almost like we have a bench this year. Oh god I forgot we were still paying Montross. That's depressing. Almost as depressing as watching Akeem get paid for like 2 years and not even being with the team. </div> Montross' contract is off the chart. I believe the Raptors bought out his contract.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">Montross' contract is off the chart. I believe the Raptors bought out his contract.</div> Oh I bet they did. I was just trying to say his contract still goes against their salary cap space for 1 more season.
damnit!!! gary trent was a free-agent and somehow we didnt pick him up i dont care if he'd make a short center...id MUCH rather have an under-sized gary trent playing center then a scrub who's done nothing like loren woods getting the back up minutes we shoulda picked him up
K raptors ain't getting dampier, because Dallas acquired him, and they ain't getting rid of him just yet. And another thing is Raptors made the worst pick in history getting Rafeal Arujou. This guy was a janitor, man thats depressing. His height is overrated, and hes just fat. His potential is to be a future role player. Basically hes this years Darko, except no hype.
^^gee thanks for the update on dampier. you should read the date of those posts. they were all made before he signed with dallas. Aparently rafael has gotten into great shape. im gonna see what he can do before i give him the title of worst pick in the history of the draft. thats a pretty bold statement. how many drafts have you seen? was this one your 3rd?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">^^gee thanks for the update on dampier. you should read the date of those posts. they were all made before he signed with dallas. Aparently rafael has gotten into great shape. im gonna see what he can do before i give him the title of worst pick in the history of the draft. thats a pretty bold statement. how many drafts have you seen? was this one your 3rd?</div> actually i seen every draft since 97.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting arhieboy:</div><div class="quote_post">K And another thing is Raptors made the worst pick in history getting Rafeal Arujou. This guy was a janitor, man thats depressing. His height is overrated, and hes just fat. His potential is to be a future role player. Basically hes this years Darko, except no hype.</div> First of all its Custodian, <font color="red">deleted</font>. And Dennis Rodman the nba best rebounder ever was also a janitor. i harbor no illusions that Arujou is a saviour but i think he is strong blue collar type guy whos gonna give this team plenty of minutes. i dont like making predictions but i would not be surprised is he averaged 6.5 pts and 8.5 rips a game. but il tell you this he wont be a darko. <font color="red">Watch the language. -Franchise</font>
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting arhieboy:</div><div class="quote_post">actually i seen every draft since 97.</div> 7 drafts and your declaring rafael the worst pick in history? LOL! ok, lets just for fun review the last 4 drafts... in 97 keith van horn was picked 2nd overall. ahead of chauncey billups, Tracy mcgrady, derek anderson and stephen jackson in 98 olowokandi was picked first overall. above pierce, vince, bibby, and nowitzki. tracktor traylor was picked 6th overall...also above nowitzki and pierce. Rashard lewis was picked in the 2nd round incidentally in 99 trajan langdon was picked 11th. thats ahead of ron artest, ak47, corey maggette and james posey. Pretty solid draft overall, but that pic was terrible in retrospect in 2000 well, jesus, take your pick, stomile swift was picked SECOND overall, he's at least turning into a half decent bench/role player...but marcus fizer whos hanging into the league by a thread was picked FOURTH overall...above jamaal magloire, jamal crawford, quentin richardson, michael redd, desmond mason and hedo tukoglu...fizer was a horrid pick. 2001 wasnt too bad a draft year since the pool was pretty weak, but kwame was picked first overall above pau gasol, zach randolph, gilbert arenas, richard jefferson, joe johnson and memet okur i could go on all the way to last years draft... its too bad you started in 97, and missed the 96 draft. samaki walker was picked 9th overall. thats above kobe, steve nash, zydrunas, dampier, peja, and jermaine o'neal. how about the disgrace known as big country bryant reeves in 95. picked 6th overall!!. or how about someone most people havnt even heard of? shawn respert and ed o'bannon were picked that same year 8th and 9th respectivly...thast above kurt thomas, mike finley and theo ratliff! and i could continue to go on....this season hasnt even started yet. you have yet to see rafael even play a single game...and your already proclaiming this the worst pick ever...and when questioned bout that statement, you didnt even take a step back. maybe he will turn out to be a bust. but you've only watched 7 drafts and your making statements about the worst ever. let him play first.
PWNED! Seriously...that was pretty impressive. Yeah...sometimes I think people who make all these bold proclamations need to get their head re-examined. Or get past Junior High.
