Hi all. My first post here I'm probably the only Magic fan from Portugal (and excuse my horrible englsh ) I was starting to feel confident about this team. Starting Jameer as a PG, moving Franchise to SG and having Dwight as a SF (it's where I believe he suits better), giving room to Gooden as a sarter PF . We only needed a Big Man... and having Cato, Mobley, Garrity (and hopefully a healthy Hill!) coming from the bench. Now that's what I call a wicked roster! But Hedo? C'mon!! I can only see this as some play from the GM. Something has to be up on his sleeve... We are loaded with players for that position. We need a big man to take the pressure of the young guys and let them play! With another guy able to do 10 rebs and 3 blocks/game, Dwight and Gooden could learn a lot and develope to top defenders... And with Franchise having 20ppg and 5 assists... It was hard to loose T-Mac, but with this team I bet we could have 50 victories this season... But Hedo?? Why??
Boy what a bad signing this would turn out to be. I think they forgot that they also have a player that plays the same posistion, who hasn't played in a while and makes double the cash, by the name of Grant Hill.
qrich just signed a offer sheet for 48-50 million but I think it's for 4 years. hedo can play some 4 for us maybe we will keep hedo to play 3 and 4 and move gooden for a c or sg.
this is what happens when u have a hockey guy running your basketball operations. i think gooden is a much better player than hedo.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting DirtySouth:</div><div class="quote_post">qrich just signed a offer sheet for 48-50 million but I think it's for 4 years. hedo can play some 4 for us maybe we will keep hedo to play 3 and 4 and move gooden for a c or sg.</div> I don't think it is for 4 years, atleast I hope it isn't. That'd put him at an average of 12-12.5 mil a season, and he isn't worth anywhere near that. I like him a lot and I wanted to see him as a Clipper again next season, but he isn't worth more than 8mil a year.
Q-Rich signed a 6 year deal, though nothing is official <div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">this is what happens when u have a hockey guy running your basketball operations. i think gooden is a much better player than hedo.</div> Gooden is a 4 and nothing else. Hedo is a 3 and 2 so the comparasion doesn't make sense, since it has no relation to eachother.
a magic official said they brought in hedo for his running ability. the magic want to be a fast break team and hedo is a piece for them. he is a nice spark off the bench, or filling in for a starter, but not for a 6 yr 40 million. could be possible he will be involved in a trade...maybe for butler? pieces are coming together though!
I am sorry.. Hedo is a good player and all, but thats a ridiculous amount for him, and 6 years? This has to be for a trade to someone, obviously a package of Hedo and someone that the team wants.. Or this could be indication that Mobley is the one getting traded... I dont know, i just see no point in trading someone like Turkoglu to that contract while he comes off the bench..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ZeroToOne50182:</div><div class="quote_post">I am sorry.. Hedo is a good player and all, but thats a ridiculous amount for him, and 6 years? This has to be for a trade to someone, obviously a package of Hedo and someone that the team wants.. Or this could be indication that Mobley is the one getting traded... I dont know, i just see no point in trading someone like Turkoglu to that contract while he comes off the bench..</div> Why do you think he will come off of the bench. Hedo is a 3 and Mobley is a 2. Please don't say Grant Hill will start at the 3. Bogans is more of a 2 than a 3 also. We needed depth at the 3 spot. Also don't you guys think that the Magic have looked into other players for the MLE. Personally I think they should have went after Mark Blount but maybe they could not get him for whatever reason unnown to us. Hedo could be the best player the Magic could have gotten for the MLE. Do you think it would have been better to get no one?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Eren3:</div><div class="quote_post">crazytown...you said hedo can hit the 3 pointer once in awhile and that mobley and garrity were more reliable 3 point shooters. i was saying turkoglu is more reliable than both of them and the stats prove so</div> WTF? Did you guys fail English 101. Let me break it down for you guys. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The only bright side about this is Hedo can hit the outside shot every once in a while. Mobley and Garrity are our only reliable 3-pt threat. </div> I'm not saying Mobley and Garrity is better than Hedo in 3pt%. I'm saying they are our only reliable 3pt shooters on our team. Hedo would be an added boost. Hence, the reason I said "the only bright spot". Cmon guys, this isn't rocket science. EDIT:I checked Hedo's stats and does NOT shoot 45% from 3pt line. It's 41%. And Garrity and Mobley attempt TWICE as much and still shoot around 40%. Personally, I'd take Mobley and Pat over him any day of the week.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting banks3:</div><div class="quote_post"> Gooden is a 4 and nothing else. Hedo is a 3 and 2 so the comparasion doesn't make sense, since it has no relation to eachother.</div> u don't know much about basketball, do u? they played gooden at the four cause they were scarce on talent at the 4 and 5 spots. if u ever watched gooden's game he's skillset and size are more suited for a small forward in the nba. his disappointing season last year was largely attributed to him playing out of position.
The only reason I can think of the Magic signed him to such an enormous contract is because if it were for anything less (Half the MLE, 2.5/6) the Spurs would've matched. I don't think it's a bad signing, Hedo will definitely help Francis and others in running the fast break. I think we should try to get Ostertag to sign for the million dollar exception, and this should put an end to the Caron Butler talks
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">u don't know much about basketball, do u? they played gooden at the four cause they were scarce on talent at the 4 and 5 spots. if u ever watched gooden's game he's skillset and size are more suited for a small forward in the nba. his disappointing season last year was largely attributed to him playing out of position.</div> WTF? Gooden is a 4 not a 3. Jhoward was playing the 4 last year. Drew was out of position at the 3 and 5. He shines only when he is at the 4 spot. You can ask any body in here and they will tell you he is a 4. So I guess only you know about basketball right.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting magicfandan:</div><div class="quote_post">WTF? Gooden is a 4 not a 3. Jhoward was playing the 4 last year. Drew was out of position at the 3 and 5. He shines only when he is at the 4 spot. You can ask any body in here and they will tell you he is a 4. So I guess only you know about basketball right.</div> He is a 4 who can play 3 at times but is best suited at the 4 spot. he is not fast enough to play the 3 and his jumper is very inconsistent right now.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting magicfandan:</div><div class="quote_post">WTF? Gooden is a 4 not a 3. Jhoward was playing the 4 last year. Drew was out of position at the 3 and 5. He shines only when he is at the 4 spot. You can ask any body in here and they will tell you he is a 4. So I guess only you know about basketball right.</div> he played the four in college but i believe he's more suited to play the three in the nba. the consistency of his jump shot is irrelevant in my thinking. there are a lot good small forwards who can't shot consistently like george lynch, jerome williams and orlando's own grant hill. in my three examples, i use a defensive minded player (lynch), an energy player (jyd) and a highly skilled player (g.hill) to illustrate my point that 3?s don?t need a consistent jumper. personally, I prefer a slasher from my 3. gooden is too undersized to play at the four for an entire season, he would be exposed if he got extended minutes at the four.
I have seen Hedo play a few times, and his game is somewhat similar to our likely backourt's(Francis, Mobley, Hill, Bogans...). Weisbrough may be trying to organize a fast tempo-break team and keep his starting 1,2,3's fresh by having good substitutes for them. But the signing of Turkoglu could also lead to a significant trade consisting of him, or someone else (maybe Garrity, Hill, Mobley, Francis...Gooden) in Orlando's backourt for a some big men...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting deception:</div><div class="quote_post">he played the four in college but i believe he's more suited to play the three in the nba. the consistency of his jump shot is irrelevant in my thinking. there are a lot good small forwards who can't shot consistently like george lynch, jerome williams and orlando's own grant hill. in my three examples, i use a defensive minded player (lynch), an energy player (jyd) and a highly skilled player (g.hill) to illustrate my point that 3?s don?t need a consistent jumper. personally, I prefer a slasher from my 3. gooden is too undersized to play at the four for an entire season, he would be exposed if he got extended minutes at the four.</div> Did you read all the stuff that he said when he came over from memphis about he was out of postion at sf. That is why he was bad in memphis he couldn't cover any sfs.he doesn't have the the ball handling skills to drive past people far from the basket.he is turns the ball over to much when he trys faceup and drive. I agree with you that he can be a sf that brings energy because his defense is not good at all. g hill has a pretty good mid range game way better than gooden's.
Can you carry your mid level cap to next year because if that is the best they can get they should do that.
