What do you Boston fans think of this guy? So far he's doing pretty good in the summer league. The first game he had 15 pts / 19 mins, 5-7 FG, 6 rebounds, 2 blocks, and the other night vs. Cleveland he had 9 pts / 25 mins, 4-7 FG, 10 rebounds. Pretty good for a guy out of high school if you ask me!
why not? Scouting reports say he's very strong, has very good post skills and soft hands. He's 6-10 and 265, so not skinny at all. I can see him contributing from the bench right away.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I can see him contributing from the bench right away.</div> And therein lies the key words, From the bench. The kids more ready from a physical standpoint than alot of the other "projects" coming out of HS this year. However, there are alot of guys who look like "world-beaters" in summer league, so you'll have to forgive me if I'm not jumping for joy about his pleasantly surprising stats thus far. I'd like to see 10 mins out of each him and Perk this season, but won't expect more than that.
Ok, I agree with that.. I've never seen the guy play, but from what I'm reading I'm looking forward to see him perform on the big stage. The way he's built he could grow into a Ben Wallace with offense... I mean, the guy scored 66 points in a high school game and his HS stats read 43 points, 18 rebounds, four assists and seven blocks per game. Pretty impressive if you ask me...
Yup, about 10-15 minutes per game, and I'll be happy. He has a great upside, and I predict he will be a great player in 2-3 years. The best thing that happened to him was the C's signing Mark Blount. Now he will not have to be rushed along, and he can be a contributor off the bench. Let's just hope he turns out to be more like Amare, and less like Kwame. In 10 years I think he will be considered one of the top 5 players of his draft class.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44caliberThrila:</div><div class="quote_post">In 10 years I think he will be considered one of the top 5 players of his draft class.</div> Hhhhmmm...let's see in no particular order: 1. Emeka 2. Dwight 3. Ben Gordon 4. Livingston 5. Deng 6. Jameer 7. Iguodala The list probably go on and on. I don't see him breaking into that list barring any injuries.
Ben Gordon and Jameer Nelson don't even belong on that list, IMO. If we're talking about 10 years from now, I can easily look beyond the hype of the moment. Top 5 might be an interesting thing to bet on, but top 10 I think would be a pretty safe call.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">Ben Gordon and Jameer Nelson don't even belong on that list, IMO. If we're talking about 10 years from now, I can easily look beyond the hype of the moment. Top 5 might be an interesting thing to bet on, but top 10 I think would be a pretty safe call.</div> We're talking about 10 years from now. They'll be pretty solid by then IMHO. More solid than Jefferson.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting InNETSweTrust:</div><div class="quote_post">Hhhhmmm...let's see in no particular order: 1. Emeka 2. Dwight 3. Ben Gordon 4. Livingston 5. Deng 6. Jameer 7. Iguodala The list probably go on and on. I don't see him breaking into that list barring any injuries.</div>Only time will tell. If Jefferson ends up being a very productive power forward, I doubt point guards will be considered better than him. For a 1 to be considered better or more valuable than a big, he has to be very very good(as good or better than Kidd). I think you can wipe Gordon, Livingston, and Jameer right off that list. As for Deng, I don't see him being a great pro. He dosen't impress me like Jefferson, Okafor, Howard, and Iguodala do. Plus, don't forget that legendary Duke curse. 1. Dwight 2. Iguodala 3. Okafor 4. Jefferson 5. ??
whats going on we drafted a hs center last year, he didnt play, now another? i like big al but seems kinda dumb what ainge is doing...OH WAIT IT IS DUMB!
Two predictions: Jameer Nelson is going to make a lot of people look stupid, and Shaun Livington will become a great NBA point guard. On the subject, I like Jefferson quite a bit. He's the only decision that Ainge has made so far that looks promising. If I were Ainge I'd be praying he and Perkins work out so that people will forget about the temporary moment of insanity known as Raef LaFrentz.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">whats going on we drafted a hs center last year, he didnt play, now another? i like big al but seems kinda dumb what ainge is doing...OH WAIT IT IS DUMB!</div> Dude, no offense, but If you're going to incessantly bash Ainge in just about every post, then why not get it out of the way all at once, instead of dragging every thread into the fray? It's your right to be negative, but it seems that nothing the mans going to do will make you content, at least by some of your posts. Just create a thread for that purpose and get it over with please. Calling the guy an idiot in every other post really takes away from the good stuff in your posts. I'm not saying it to come down on you, but it's kinda distracting, IMO. Perkins was drafted for the future. So was Jefferson. Exactly what's wrong with planning for the future? Perkins wouldn't have played last year no matter what, because first OB was running the show, then Carroll. Both are idiots and neither has a penchant nor the ability to develop rookies. IYO, Who exactly should we have gotten instead of Jefferson?
wtf...i dont bash ainge in every post? maybe you mean birdman or someone. we have what like 5 centers now? al, perk, raef, blount, mihm...and our past 2 picks at center have been high schoolers, planning for the future is fine, but college players are more prepared. why are you always bashing OB? he brought us to the cconference finals, and ya know why we sucked last year? not because of OB, but because ainge made that trade. i understand antoine may not have been as good as we thought he was, but ainge took apart our team. i think the c's will have an ok team this year, i like doc, but drafting hs centers is not getting us anywhere. as for the draft, we couldve got jameer, the 7-5 russian center, 7-0 center from colarado, i like the picks of delonte and tony, they will do well, and im sure al will do well, in the 5 min of playing he gets and what has ainge done that should make me content??!?!!
Jefferson and LaFrentz are PF's for starters, not Centers. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">as for the draft, we couldve got jameer</div> Jameer Nelson wasn't worthy of a top 15 pick and every GM before us verified that. Don't blame Ainge. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and our past 2 picks at center have been high schoolers, planning for the future is fine, but college players are more prepared.</div> The draft in recent years hasn't been about College players and the only impact college players that were coming out, we had no chance at. Help int he post now meant resigning Blount, which was done and hoping LaFrentz comes back healthy. That gives Perk and Jefferson time to develop. Immediate help was never coming from the draft. And no one said you had to be content with Ainge thus far, but at least keep in mind that Rome wasn't built in a day.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wink23:</div><div class="quote_post">wtf...i dont bash ainge in every post? </div>Weren't you just in the "Paul pierce no trade" thread bashing Ainge? It may not be always but I notice it enough to see that it is often <div class="quote_poster">Quoting wink23:</div><div class="quote_post">and what has ainge done that should make me content??!?!! </div>A wise man I know (hagrid) once said that you have to give the man time to see how his decisions pan out blah blah blah and he is right. You may not see it but Danny Ainge has stocked himself with a very young but talented group of players. How it pans out time will tell but obviously you can see what direction he is headed. If this Jefferson kid is for real, Marcus Banks turns into a solid point guard, Kendrick Perkins developes, Jiri Welsch developes, Ricky Davis developes, Mark Blount keeps on doing what he's doing, Raef Lafrentz comes back injury free next season, Ernest Brown, Delonte West, Tony Allen....the list goes on...they could be a force to reckon with for a long damn time. Now there are a lot of If's on this team in regards to how their talent will develope, but you can't help but be somewhat optimistic about Boston's future. But then again Danny Ainge is their GM.....anything can happen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">Weren't you just in the "Paul pierce no trade" thread bashing Ainge? It may not be always but I notice it enough to see that it is often A wise man I know (hagrid) once said that you have to give the man time to see how his decisions pan out blah blah blah and he is right. You may not see it but Danny Ainge has stocked himself with a very young but talented group of players. How it pans out time will tell but obviously you can see what direction he is headed. If this Jefferson kid is for real, Marcus Banks turns into a solid point guard, Kendrick Perkins developes, Jiri Welsch developes, Ricky Davis developes, Mark Blount keeps on doing what he's doing, Raef Lafrentz comes back injury free next season, Ernest Brown, Delonte West, Tony Allen....the list goes on...they could be a force to reckon with for a long damn time. Now there are a lot of If's on this team in regards to how their talent will develope, but you can't help but be somewhat optimistic about Boston's future. But then again Danny Ainge is their GM.....anything can happen.</div> That's a whole lot of development.
Meanwhile.. to get on topic again... Al Jefferson had 10 pts, 5-10 FG, 9 rebounds, 3 blocks in 26 minutes versus Miami. Last night against Wizzards he had 15 pts, 7-12 FG, 10 rebounds, 3 blocks in 27 minutes. I know it's just summerleague play, but those are pretty consistent numbers!
Yeah, nice numbers so far for both Jefferson and Allen. However, as you pointed out, it's summer league and those numbers aren't as solid in terms of getting a true evaluation, as they would be if they were league play games. It's something to stay positive over though.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Just got back from Orlando which means watching Jefferson do his thing for a couple of days in a row, and yes, he could very well be the steal of the draft. Boy I am glad we are on record calling him one of the most underrated players in the draft, this kid is amazing. I told Pre last night that I love him, I don't know what to say after the show he put on today. Danny Ainge was sitting 5 feet away from me, you guys should have seen the look on his face.</div> <font size="1">from Draftcity</font> This sounds great, I know it's summer league, but whenever a HS player is putting up great numbers this early, that's a good sign. I hope Jefferson will get up to 15 minutes a game and grab a lot of rebounds, like Hunter did, but with more offense.
