Kenyon Martin Offered 6 Year Deal, Worth Between 80-100 Million

if kenyon accepts this offer we are witnessing the disintegration of the nets before our eyes. jefferson's contract expires and i'm sure he will want max. money as well so its look u NETS fans are stuck with a highly skilled, old by nba standards point guard. they should have traded him to the spurs for parker and some other young studs when they had the chance last offseason i thought the billionaire real estate developer and a rap mogul could turn around your fortunes but guess not.

 

From what I have heard: The Hawks offering KMart the 60 million is rubbish. His agents could be leaking this false info out to force New Jersey's hand.

 

nice for everyone to bash on kidd now when most people agreed to keep him when he didnt hurt his knee. lot of flip-floppers out there. next year, we will have money to resign rj, and yes we could max him out too. that would be three max players. of course thats a lot of money for only three players, but these are not just any three players. they are key players to turning this franchise upside down and not making us a joke in the nba anymore. if we had to max out all three, i could understand it but it would also make us have to surround them with a cheap supporting cast and possibly rookies (since most are cheep besides lottery picks).

jayz wont care about the nets till they are in brooklyn. it is sad he is that selfish. i was never a fan of his,but im not a hater either. i think him being apart of the nets is more of a publicity move than anything else. he can get his 40/40 name out there along with his clothing line. once in brooklyn,im sure the owners will spend more money and jayz will try to turn the nets into the lakers of the east. meaning that the brooklyn arena or whatever the name will be called with be a 'hotspot' in ny. im sure he will have his clothing line in the arena somewhere. sure he can show up at the nets/knicks game in the playoffs,but that doesnt mean he cares for the team. he wants to give something to brooklyn so he hopes on ratner to get his name out more. thats my PO.

 

Thats a good point banks3 cause if they do decide to keep martin what will jefferson ask for next season and but we do have players freeing up space. but i dont think it will be enough. Hopefully it will cause RJ is the man.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting CourtVision:</div><div class="quote_post">From what I have heard: The Hawks offering KMart the 60 million is rubbish. His agents could be leaking this false info out to force New Jersey's hand.</div>

I heard it was a 6 year 85 Million dollar offer.

 

has nj matched yet? if not when do they plan to match the max?

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting NJNetz:</div><div class="quote_post">Thats a good point banks3 cause if they do decide to keep martin what will jefferson ask for next season and but we do have players freeing up space. but i dont think it will be enough. Hopefully it will cause RJ is the man.</div>

Zo contract & a few other big salaries come off the books next year, so we should have the money to give RJ, even if we keep Martin this year It will just limit the moves that we can make around the big 3. I could have sworn I read somewhere that RJ said he was willing to take a reasonable contract to remain a Net but dont quote me on that.

 

I wont qoute you on that Hen. Hopefully he won't let greed get to him like other people and ask for a max contract. But i think he wont ask for a lot. Like he said he would rather win an olympic gold than nba champioship so i have respect for him. And by that it seems hes one of the rare people that plays for the love of the game.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KingCarmelo:</div><div class="quote_post">has nj matched yet? if not when do they plan to match the max?</div>
kenyon did not sign the offer sheet for atlanta so the nets don't have to match anything yet. FA's can start to sign contract on July 14th i believe. if kmart does sign an offer sheet from atlanta or if denver makes one, then i think the nets have two weeks to match that offer. so if/when denver offers kmart an offer sheet (unless they are holding out to keep the money for kobe) then a few days after i expect us to match any offer made. if denver doesn't offer kmart something towards a max, i don't even think he would sign thier offer sheet unless if he and dyke feel that the nets wouldnt give him max w/o signing an offer sheet. so i would that that around july 14th-20th kmart will be signed somewhere. hopefully it is here,but if not then we need something back. we can't let him walk like nash did out of dallas. it will set us back.

 

RJ has been with the Nets for 4 years after next season. We easily own his Bird Rights, meaning we can sign him for whatever we want no matter how little cap space we'll have, same reason why we can sign Kmart for whatever we wants. It'll put us over the cap. However, I doubt RJ will command a max contract. Looking at all the other comparable swingmen out there, Corey Maggette, Rip Hamilton, Lamar Odom last year Ginobili this season, all didn't get max contracts. Only swingman that's going to get is Kobe Bryant. So obviously there is a big difference. I believe RJ will get around the 65-70 mil area. What he deserves.

If it's a max contract, I rather see the Nets not match and see Martin in Atlanta. I'll wish him the best but he'll see how hard it is to suceed without Kidd.

 

you talk about nash leaving and setting back the mavs. how about Shaq leaving orlando. If he had stayed in orlando they would have been in great contention for the title again that next year. Hardaway and Shaq (forget shaq and kobe, its all about shaq and hardaway) in their prime or going to their prime. just had to bring that up cause we are in the same situation. Kmart and Jefferson going into their prime and we can't lose him or them with our something back

 

60-70 mil is pretty close to max contract though but he'll be worth it cause he show that he can improve and when improves he improves alot. the only thing is he gets shutdown alot but he is beginning to create own shot he'll be there soon

 

ok whens the earlest that we can see kmart in an atown uni?

 

I would stay with who made me a name. If he leaves, Id be shocked.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KingCarmelo:</div><div class="quote_post">ok whens the earlest that we can see kmart in an atown uni?</div>
the only way you will see kmart in an ugly atlant uniform is when u put him on the hawks on nba live. thats about it. if he leaves, he will be going to denver or somewhere else via sign-and-trade. atlanta is just a team to help prove kmarts point that he can get the max. i think he would hesitate signing the atlanta offer sheet b.c he knows there is a chance the nets wont match (still expect them too or ratner will look extremely bad after he publicly said he told rod/ed to keep kmart by any means w/o trading jason) and eventhough he will have max money, he knows he wont be happy in atlanta. i could see him signing for less with denver/nj before he signs a max with atlanta. if he goes to atlanta, i'll help him pack his bags.

 

well with all the things going on in the nba like the lakers decontructions, the carlos boozer thing etc i wouldnt be surprised if kmart left and Ratner said theres nothing that he could do

 

so u think he wont go a town and end up in denver. well denver will NOT give him max therefore HE WILL sign with Atlanta.

 

But I think KMart not perform very well as RJ, Kidd+RJ maybe are lonely, but if somebody join the nets like Abdur-rahim & ray allen, it's still ok.
KMart is emotionless, I don't think why he insist on the salary, I don't think that's important.

 

<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KingCarmelo:</div><div class="quote_post">so u think he wont go a town and end up in denver. well denver will NOT give him max therefore HE WILL sign with Atlanta.</div>

The Nets are pretty much in a situation where they are going to have to match Martin's offers. Or be stuck without a bigman next year because all the good cheape bigbodies onthe Free Agent market are locked up in contracts already. And the Nets dont have the trade bait to acquire a good bigman in a trade without using Martin in a sign & trade.


The Nets (if trading kidd isnt an option) only have two tradable players, Kerry Kittles & Kenyon Martin. The Blazers seemed somewhat interested in trading Reef for Kittles but that deal faded away pretty fast. And I dont think to many other teams are going to be willing to giveup a good bigbody for Kittles, which means the K-Mart becomes their only real from of acquiring a bigbody to replace him, so they are going to have to match any offer imo, even if its to do a sign & trade deal(but hopefully not, if we re-sign him, K-Mart needs to stay).

 

it is NOT worth NOT resigning kmart to save money for ONE year earlier. bunch of contracts will come off the books next year and we will plenty to have kidd/kmart and a resing rj all under the cap. it is not worth it to lose a talent like kenyon b/c you want to move the team to brooklyn. who does ratner think he is going to bring to brooklyn? not kidd b/c he will most likely be done by then and maybe if kmart leaves and rj see's how ratner is after one year under him he wont resign. so he better think about this and give kenyon his money. kmart stays,rj resigns and ratner will have a product going into brooklyn to make money. if he starts to screw the team now, he will be f'd in brooklyn. and if he doesn't resign kmart and the team falls apart, i hope he goes in debt for the rest of his life. <^>