Carlos BOOZER OR Kenyon Martin

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  1. jetlee6509

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    yo both players are ferocious both players play wit a great player round them boozer got lebron and martin got jkidd but im wonderin who do u think is better
     
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    I think it's Kenyon. He's got more talent offensively, I think, and he's a phenomenal defender. Boozer is good, but he's undersized, and that hurts him. But, he still puts up solid numbers night in and night out. But, overall, I think it's Martin. He's more explosive on offense and has more overall offensive ability I think due to his insane athleticism and he's a great defender.
     
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    K-Mart nuff said
     
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    K-Mart. But I think we haven't seen all of Boozer tho. He has a monster body.
     
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    dont forget boozer was a 2nd round pick ppl thought he was gonna be garbage and kenyon was a num 1 pick and didnt show nothin untill kidd came in and boozer was a major threat last yr as a rookie put up good rookie numbers also boozer averages a double double kmart dont and boozer can hurt u inside and out martin is a beast in the low post wit few outside weapons. im not in no way knockin marin game but boozer looks alot better if u really examine there games
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting jetlee6509:</div><div class="quote_post">dont forget boozer was a 2nd round pick ppl thought he was gonna be garbage and kenyon was a num 1 pick and didnt show nothin untill kidd came in and boozer was a major threat last yr as a rookie put up good rookie numbers also boozer averages a double double kmart dont and boozer can hurt u inside and out martin is a beast in the low post wit few outside weapons. im not in no way knockin marin game but boozer looks alot better if u really examine there games</div>


    Not entirely true. Kenyon Martin broke his leg in his rookie year, where he showed promise as an emerging star caliber player. The next year Kidd came and they went to the Finals, and then again the next year. Obviously Kidd was a big factor in his development, but K-Mart doesnt need Kidd to suceed in this league.

    My Pick: Kenyon Martin
     
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    K-Mart all day long here! Boozer is talented no doubt, but in Utah he won't get much attention I think, thus if KMart comes to Denver I believe he will blow up! Kidd holds down KMart in NJ IMO...
     
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    K-Mart.
     
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    K-Mart is defenitly better, id let Boozer play for the Raptors any day of the week.
     
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    Kenyon by the proverbial straight. Boozer is a nice complimentary player, but he is a bad defender, scores more from putbacks and second chance opportunities then he does from being a go to guy on the low block. Granted K-Mart has the added advantage of playing with one Jason Kidd, but the bottom line for me is if I want a score, I go to Kenyon over Carlos, and if I want a defensive stop, a clutch rebound or some inspiration, I go to Kenyon too. That's not a knock on Boozer, either.

    Basically, one has the potential to be a very good player, the other has the potential to be a star.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting banks3:</div><div class="quote_post">Not entirely true. Kenyon Martin broke his leg in his rookie year, where he showed promise as an emerging star caliber player. The next year Kidd came and they went to the Finals, and then again the next year. Obviously Kidd was a big factor in his development, but K-Mart doesnt need Kidd to suceed in this league.

    My Pick: Kenyon Martin</div>

    Actually, if I'm correct, it wasn't his rookie year he broke his leg, it was his senior year at Cincinnati. People were questioning that year whether he should have been the #1 pick cause they weren't sure if he was going to be as explosive because of the injury. So, I think you have that a little mixed up. Plus, if he broke his leg, I think he'd have missed more than 14 games that year. And, what Supersonic said, I agree. I'd rather have Kenyon on my team if I needed a score, stop, whatever. I think he's the better overall player, like I stated earlier. He's just so explosive on both ends of the court and he has the potential to be better still in my opinion.
     
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    KMart without batting an eyelash. For the reasons that Sonic already stated.
     
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    k-mart, but they remind me of the same style of play. they both finish strong and show alot of the same style but kenyon is better imo.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually, if I'm correct, it wasn't his rookie year he broke his leg, it was his senior year at Cincinnati. People were questioning that year whether he should have been the #1 pick cause they weren't sure if he was going to be as explosive because of the injury. So, I think you have that a little mixed up. Plus, if he broke his leg, I think he'd have missed more than 14 games that year. And, what Supersonic said, I agree. I'd rather have Kenyon on my team if I needed a score, stop, whatever. I think he's the better overall player, like I stated earlier. He's just so explosive on both ends of the court and he has the potential to be better still in my opinion.</div>

    Yea I remember that. He had injury problems, and at the end of the season, with like 15 or something games to go he broke his leg or ankle.
     
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    Boozer, obviously. this shouldnt be much of a discussion
     
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    How is it obvious? Most of the responses here have said K-Mart over Boozer? You got back your opinion up if your going to state that.
     
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    I think he's kidding, isn't it obvious? This shouldnt be much of a discussion.
     
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    kidding. WTF?? I dont have to "back up" that michael jordan is better than pervis ellison. this the same case but much closer to the middle of the talent spectrum. Kenyon martin is an above average power forward, but if he chooses to sign with another team he will need to prove that he can be that without jason kidd. Carlos Boozer in just his second year averaged 15.5 points and 11.5 boards a game. Martin didnt do 15 a game untill his 3rd year and has never in four years come close to 11.4 boards a game and Boozer did it despite playing on a team with a 7'3'' center and a 6'8'' point guard. Martin is supposed to be the main man for points and rebounds on his team and his numbers still arent as good as boozer.the key stat here: this year Martin despite playing in 10 less games than Boozer had EXACTLY the same number (900) fg attempts and shot 35 points worse a fg% than Boozer. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting olskoolFunktitude:</div><div class="quote_post">kidding. WTF?? I dont have to "back up" that michael jordan is better than pervis ellison. this the same case but much closer to the middle of the talent spectrum. Kenyon martin is an above average power forward, but if he chooses to sign with another team he will need to prove that he can be that without jason kidd. Carlos Boozer in just his second year averaged 15.5 points and 11.5 boards a game. Martin didnt do 15 a game untill his 3rd year and has never in four years come close to 11.4 boards a game and Boozer did it despite playing on a team with a 7'3'' center and a 6'8'' point guard. Martin is supposed to be the main man for points and rebounds on his team and his numbers still arent as good as boozer.the key stat here: this year Martin despite playing in 10 less games than Boozer had EXACTLY the same number (900) fg attempts and shot 35 points worse a fg% than Boozer. [​IMG]</div>

    Likely because Boozer takes mainly high percentage shots. He isn't a go to guy offensively, he picks up a lot of points on open dunks or second chance opportunities. K-Mart gets a lot of open dunks from the benefit of Jason Kidd, no doubting that, but he also gets a lot more opportunities to create his own shot and work in the post. As for the scoring thing, the Nets offense is not structured around having one guy score a lot of points, it's shared around. Jefferson also had a breakout year and was often first option offensively.

    Boozer is the better rebounder, but he doesn't get it done on both ends of the court. Martin is one of the best defensive power forwards in the game, while Boozer is going to struggle in the West where he'll have to learn how to defend the low block, such is the strength of big men there every night.
     
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    I'd take Boozer. Boozer is five years younger than Martin. He also has an ugly yet effective shot and is a better rebounder. Martin is better defensively but Boozer can improve.
     

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