<u>EAST</u> G - Francis or Lebron G - Iverson F - Carter F - J.O'neal C - S.O'neal <u>Bench</u> C - Ben Wallace G - Gilbert Arenas F - Antawn Jamison G - Michael Redd G - Jason Kidd F - Lebron James C -Ilguaskas or Eddy Curry <u>WEST</u> G - Kobe G - Tmac F - Garnett F - Duncan C - Yao <u>Bench</u> G - Baron Davis F - Elton Brand F - Peja Stojakovic F - Dirk Nowitzki F - Amare Stoudemire C - Dampier G - Carmelo Anthony For bench guys it has to be G-G-F-F-C and 2 others, so Carmelo is now a guard
Rasheed will take K-mart's place in the all-star game next season, Pistons should get at least two all-stars. Should be 3 with Rip but because the eastern conference is so guard heavy It will be tough for him to make it.
East PG Allen Iverson SG LeBron James SF Vince Carter PF Jermaine O'neal C Shaquille O'neal Reserves Ben Wallace Steve Francis Jason Kidd Paul Pierce Antawn Jamison Michael Redd Ron Artest/Richard Jefferson West G Kobe Bryant G Tracy McGrady F Kevin Garnett F Tim Duncan C Yao Ming Reserves Dirk Nowitzki Amare Stoudemire Carmelo Anthony Baron Davis Zach Randolph or Elton Brand Jamaal Magloire Steve Nash The reason I added Magloire and Nash, is because you need to select 2 G's, F's and 1 C as backups. And the other 2 being wildcard. I chose Magloire as the C over Brad Miller. And I chose Nash over Maggette for the G other guard spot.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">Rasheed will take K-mart's place in the all-star game next season, Pistons should get at least two all-stars. Should be 3 with Rip but because the eastern conference is so guard heavy It will be tough for him to make it.</div> Yea maybe, or Ilguaskas could make it, Sheed isn't that good really, I mean he's good especially defensively, but man he doesn't put up big numbers esepcailly on the boards, and he's always been an underachiever, but their's no one else in the East I guess.
Well the starters are pretty much set in stone since it's based on fame and hype. So even if Bron gets 5 ppg he'll be on the All-star starting team. The bench... it's really early guys... season hasn't started yet and anything could happen.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Yea maybe, or Ilguaskas could make it, Sheed isn't that good really, I mean he's good especially defensively, but man he doesn't put up big numbers esepcailly on the boards, and he's always been an underachiever, but their's no one else in the East I guess.</div> You got it wrong there...Actually Sheed is very good, he is clearly a very underrated player on both ends of the court these days. He was needed for Pistons to win a championship, without him this team would of been out in round two. He doesn't put up big numbers because he doesn't have to, he has a completely different role in Detroit than he did in Portland. Obivously he doesn't rebound the ball as well as many expected but he is still above average in that area. I wish people wouldn't look at just numbers when deciding how good a player is, Sheed does alot more than what it says on the boxscore. Sheed is a PF so big Z has no chance to make the team.
I know who Sheed is, I know what he's done an what he can do, but when they picks Forwards they don't always pick SF or PF, just F, and Zydrunas is going to be the second option on Cleveland, but also getting more shots because Boozer is gone, they can both make it though. Sheed is not underatted, unless your saying he is as a Piston which he isn't either or he wouldn't have gotten all that money, he's a great defensive player, good offensive player, and he's great to have on the bench waiving towels and harrasing the refs. I wouldn't call his rebounding above average for a 6'11 center who is athletic, Shawn Marion rebounds better than him, and even Dirk rebounds better, 6.7 rebounds per game in 34.5 minutes in his career is not above averaged for a PF-C. Even Tmac has career averages of 6.4 rebounds a game in 33.6 minutes. When I said big numbers I was strictly reffering to rebounds really, I know he can score, he's onlt been on Detroit half a season, he's been a go to guy his whole career but still never averaged 20 points (biggest reason being that he doesn't get to the line) or even 9 rebounds. He also attempts to many three's for a guy that has an unblockable shot and an amazing turnaround in the post, ah well, at least he's gotten on a team where him just playing defense, and just average offensive production fits into the system.
East: G LeBron James G Allen Iverson F Vince Carter F Jermaine O'Neal C Shaquille O'Neal Reserves: G Steve Francis G Michael Redd G Jason Kidd F Paul Pierce F Ben Wallace F Richard Jefferson C Eddy Curry West: G Kobe Bryant G Tracy McGrady F Kevin Garnett F Tim Duncan C Yao Ming Reserves: G Ray Allen G Peja Stojacovic F Carmello Anthony F Dirk Nowitzki F Chris Webber F Andrei Kerilenko C Jamaal Magloire Tough to leave Stoutemire off the team, and theres no true Point Guard, so Nash or B.Diddy might make the team.
<u>West</u> G - Kobe Bryant G - Tracy McGrady F - Kevin Garnett F - Tim Duncan C - Yao Ming Reserves G - Baron Davis G - Steve Nash F - Dirk Nowitzki F - Amare Stoudamire C - Erick Dampier F - Carmelo Anthony F - Elton Brand/Zach Randolph <u>East</u> G - Steve Francis G - Allen Iverson F - Vince Carter F - Jermaine O' Neal C - Shaquille O' Neal Reserves G - Jason Kidd G - Micheal Redd F - LeBron James F - Paul Pierce C - Ben Wallace G - Gilbert Arenas C - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
somebody mentioned kidd's game might go downhill with KMart gone, but i highly doubt this, if anyone, if should be the game of KMART that would go downhill. Without those amazing passes/lobs, kmart won't be able to get as much alley-oops. Plus Kidd makes everyone around him better, not kmart.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I know who Sheed is, I know what he's done an what he can do, but when they picks Forwards they don't always pick SF or PF, just F, and Zydrunas is going to be the second option on Cleveland, but also getting more shots because Boozer is gone, they can both make it though. Sheed is not underatted, unless your saying he is as a Piston which he isn't either or he wouldn't have gotten all that money, he's a great defensive player, good offensive player, and he's great to have on the bench waiving towels and harrasing the refs. </div> The all-star system works as guards, forwards and centers. Obivously big Z is a center and wouldn't effect the choice on Sheed. For you to say Sheed isn't that good is not correct. Players who aren't that good don't completely turn around a franchise from pretty good to GREAT and win a title. Do I need to bring up what the Pistons record was when and after Sheed arrived? on the defensive end he is very underrated. Many people didn't realise how big an impact he would make on defense. He has always been a very good defender but never gotten credit for it. How much money players get have no effect on If they are underrated or not. The media and other fans don't pay the checks and see what he does every game. He does far more than what shows up on the boxscore. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I wouldn't call his rebounding above average for a 6'11 center who is athletic, Shawn Marion rebounds better than him, and even Dirk rebounds better, 6.7 rebounds per game in 34.5 minutes in his career is not above averaged for a PF-C. Even Tmac has career averages of 6.4 rebounds a game in 33.6 minutes. When I said big numbers I was strictly reffering to rebounds really, I know he can score, he's onlt been on Detroit half a season, he's been a go to guy his whole career but still never averaged 20 points (biggest reason being that he doesn't get to the line) or even 9 rebounds. He also attempts to many three's for a guy that has an unblockable shot and an amazing turnaround in the post, ah well, at least he's gotten on a team where him just playing defense, and just average offensive production fits into the system.</div> Sheed is a power forward that can play center, he doesn't rebound the ball as well as he should be he still gets the job done and with Ben Wallace around to me him getting over 7 rebounds a game is above average. Infact in previous years the next highest to Ben was Cliff Robinson with 4. Ben finally has some help under the backboard. His numbers would of been higher had his playing time not dipped purely thanks to Pistons blowing everyone out late on during the season. The main reason why Sheed has never averaged over 20 points a game is because of the teams he has been on have been very talented and is role wasn't to dominate the ball 100% of the time. I'm sure if he stayed in Atlanta he would of been a 23 and 9 player at the very least. While It's true Sheed has spend alot of time on the three-point line than the low post, Larry Brown has done a great job of changing that. He has looked to go inside far more than he used to, he is also taking alot less three-point shots than what he did in Portland. He is still a good offensive player, can still light it up so I wouldn't consider him just average in that area. He badly injured his foot at the end of the regular season and still was hurting deep into the post season but managed to find ways to be effective. Either way Pistons deserve at least two all-stars
looks like everyone on the east team would be bench players if they were on the west except for shaq. the West is definitely going to win this year
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shinji3c:</div><div class="quote_post">hmm....no wade?</div> Well Wade will get some consideration, but Shaq will be taking alot of Wade's shots so that's a big factor if Wade becomes an all-star. Maybe the fans will vote him in... Just to clear it up, after the fans select the starters, the Coaches select the reserves. They select 2 guards, 2 forwards and 1 Center,. After that, with the other 2 picks, the "wild card picks", they can select 2 more players from any posistion.
Shaq won't take Wade's shots, Wade will get more shots, when Shaq averaged 29.7 PPG he took 21.1 shots a game. This year he'll take something like 18 or 19 shots a game, Odom and Caron combines for 23.4 shots a game, so that's about 4-5 extra shots a game. Brian Grant had 8.1, but Haslem will probably cover for his shots. You also have to realize that Rafer also took 9.3 shots a game, so that as to be acoounted for. EJ had 14.3 shots a game last year, and he'll either be getting the same shots or about 1 or 2 less a game this year. All together Rafer's attempts, and the extra shots from Odom and Caron have to be accounted for, so their's about 14 more shots to go around. Wade who had 13.1 last year will be getting about 15-17 shots a game, leaving about 9-12 shots a game for whoever is starting at SF (Rasual maybe or Kukoc who won't take up to 9). So Wade will get more shots basically.
I think AI and Kidd will go down and Francis will probaly get the votes. Oh I'd probaly move Lebron to the SF and Vince to SG since VC is alot better shooter from the outside. Even though SF do shoot 3's two. Just to me, it would make more sense for a better outside shooter to be at the 2 ya dig.
How can you forget that steve francis is on the east.... t-mac and da franchise are just going to trade spots on their respective all-star rosters.
