Okay, I've noticed some bizzare comments from some Clipper fans... Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to attack anyone, but I question the motives of some of the ppl here for being Clipper fans. It just seems to me that many here are more fans of the players, rather than the actual success of the franchise... A lot of clipper fans in here expressed happiness that Kobe didn't sign with them. They also expressed their interest in retaining Q-rich....Q-Rich is a nice young player, but if the clippers had signed Kobe, they would have acquired one of the best young superstars this game has seen, not to mention a great clutch player who has 3 championship rings. I just cannot see how anyone who supposedly wants the Clippers to succeed would want Q-Rich over Kobe. I personally know a few <u>long-time </u> diehard Clipper fans, and ALL of them had their fingers crossed hoping Kobe would sign....THEY WANT THE CLIPPERS TO WIN, and Kobe would give them a better shot than Q-rich would on his best day... you might say that Kobe is a selfish player etc etc...but I would argue that Q-rich isn't much better. He lead the team in FG attempts by a significant margin, yet he was only 3rd on the team in scoring...He commited more turnovers than he had assists (141 turnovers, 139 assist) ...in addition, he doesn't help his teammates out at all on the defesive end... Dont get me wrong, as a laker fan, I'm happy Kobe stayed with the Lakers, <u>for the Lakers sake</u>...but I'm also a Clipper fan and my clipper fan alter ego would've been estatic if they signed kobe.. i just don't understand y some clipper fans here at JBB are satisfied with losing...it's just wierd to me...
1. There's more to winning besides skills. Sure Kobe has the 'competitive' attitude, winning attitude, skills, etc. but I just cannot stand the fact that he wants to be "the man" of a team so much that he drove away Phil Jackson (one of the best coaches ever) and Shaq (The Most Dominant Player right now bar none). If he can dismantle a team like the Lakers, I don't want him nowhere near the Clippers. Basically what it comes down to is that I don't like his egocentric "I'm an f-ing superstar, do as I wish" attitude. I'd much rather see my Clippers play the way they play right now instead of creating animosity or ego-war like the Lakers. 2. There's more to being a fan than just wanting your team to win. For me and the Clippers, it's to watch them play an exciting DRAMA-FREE basketball. Besides, I find it hard, personally, to cheer on someone who dismantled a winning team and even thought about leaving that very same team for another.
tru-that What would become of corry and elton if he became a clipper, would we have a team or a one man show. CLIPPER FAN FOR LIFE NO#2
I think it was a Kobe specific thing, if you asked and Clipper fan if they wanted Ray Allen or Pierce, Carter or Michael Redd who would also help the team win and fill the 2 guard position they would say yes. With Kobe he brings too much baggage, and we all know people will jump all over him if the team even just barely makes the playoffs. We want a team not "the Kobe show", if it was Ray Allen I would've had no complaints, but with Kobe I want the talent just not the selfishness and everything else that comes with having him. If it was somone like Iverson also I wouldn't want to have him either.
Lets be honest here fellas, this Clipper "team" hasn't done a damn thing in 10 years...With Kobe, it wouldn't be a "one-man team." He'd just be the go-to guy, what the Clippers lack at this moment. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If he can dismantle a team like the Lakers, I don't want him nowhere near the Clippers. </div> Everyone is talking about the dismantling of the Lakers, but what team does not rebuild? Besides, u can talk about Kobe contributing to the dismantling, I'll talk about Kobe contributing to 3 NBA Championships... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Basically what it comes down to is that I don't like his egocentric "I'm an f-ing superstar, do as I wish" attitude.</div> Welcome to pro sports...those characteristcs didn't affect MJ's success either... <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think it was a Kobe specific thing, if you asked and Clipper fan if they wanted Ray Allen or Pierce, Carter or Michael Redd who would also help the team win and fill the 2 guard position they would say yes. With Kobe he brings too much baggage, and we all know people will jump all over him if the team even just barely makes the playoffs.</div> Honestly, the only Clipper fans that i've seen that don't want Kobe are all on JBB... maybe you guys are recent clipper fans and haven't experienced losing long enough, or maybe you guys are just purists who enjoy rooting for the underdog, but it is just bizarre to me that you guys are satisfied with the lottery every year.. note: again, I'm not attacking u guys, I'm just saying how I feel
good posts sj and og15... i believe that kobe does disrupt a lot of team chemistry which is why i am glad guys like odom and caron butler, who maybe at times can be too unselfish, are the ones joining the lakers...they understand and accept their role to play around kobe...and with the addition of rudy t, we have a players coach who is going to let kobe play his game and merely try to orchestrate the other 4 players on the court to move with him... you know i like the clippers, and while i wouldnt have minded seeing kobe in a clippers jersey...i would have been devastated if he had left the lakers, and i really don't think acquiring kobe would have been what was best for the clips either...the clips are fun to watch as they are like you said SJ...whether they win or not, its nice to see a team in LA that isnt constantly arguing who the real star is...but i have a feeling those days for the Lakers are up now too...and the lakers truly are going to be the kobe bryant show and you know thats exactly how i've wanted it for hte past 2 years =P
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Lets be honest here fellas, this Clipper "team" hasn't done a damn thing in 10 years...With Kobe, it wouldn't be a "one-man team." He'd just be the go-to guy, what the Clippers lack at this moment. Everyone is talking about the dismantling of the Lakers, but what team does not rebuild? Besides, u can talk about Kobe contributing to the dismantling, I'll talk about Kobe contributing to 3 NBA Championships...</div> Because you haven't noticed, let me just tell you this. The Clippers do not need to rebuild. Enough said. If you don't even know why we don't need to rebuild, then I suggest you actually find out what the Clippers are about before you rant on. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Welcome to pro sports...those characteristcs didn't affect MJ's success either...</div> That is why MJ > Kobe. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Honestly, the only Clipper fans that i've seen that don't want Kobe are all on JBB... maybe you guys are recent clipper fans and haven't experienced losing long enough, or maybe you guys are just purists who enjoy rooting for the underdog, but it is just bizarre to me that you guys are satisfied with the lottery every year.. note: again, I'm not attacking u guys, I'm just saying how I feel</div> We are purists who enjoy good drama-free basketball. Why do you want us to embrace the fact that Kobe would've been good for the team? We don't think so. We're the Clippers fan here, not you. We know what's better for our team more than you. The fact that you suggested that the Clippers needed to rebuild showed that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post"> We are purists who enjoy good drama-free basketball. Why do you want us to embrace the fact that Kobe would've been good for the team? We don't think so. We're the Clippers fan here, not you. We know what's better for our team more than you. The fact that you suggested that the Clippers needed to rebuild showed that.</div> No need to get defensive man, I?m just giving my point of view?The jbb clipper fans have quite differing opinions from the clipper fans I know personally, so I?m just probing u guys? And you are making a few wild assumptions? (1) When did I say the Clippers need to rebuild? (2) When did I say I?m not a Clipper fan? I?m actually a huge Clipper fan...wtf??
1. If you want Kobe to come in to play in the Clippers, there will be restructuring issues because Kobe will want his own players (aka, b*tches), heck even his own coach. We don't know for sure if Kobe comes whether elton or cmag or any of those players will work out good with Kobe. My bad for assuming I guess, but I have good reasons to do so. 2. Maybe you're just not the same Clippers fan as the rest of my friends who are also Clippers fan. Most of us, like I said, would like to watch a Clippers team w/o Kobe for the reasons I mentioned above. On another note, Keyon left .
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post">1. If you want Kobe to come in to play in the Clippers, there will be restructuring issues because Kobe will want his own players (aka, b*tches), heck even his own coach. We don't know for sure if Kobe comes whether elton or cmag or any of those players will work out good with Kobe. My bad for assuming I guess, but I have good reasons to do so.</div> From what they were saying, if Kobe went to the Clippers, it was because he liked the people there...over the years, he's had a good relationship with Dunleavy, and Maggette is supposedly one of Kobe's best friends...Elton Brand is the type of player that will work in any system, his game can compliment anyone so that was never a concern of mine... <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SupraJames:</div><div class="quote_post">2. Maybe you're just not the same Clippers fan as the rest of my friends who are also Clippers fan. Most of us, like I said, would like to watch a Clippers team w/o Kobe for the reasons I mentioned above. </div> Maybe that's just a west L.A. thing
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Maybe that's just a west L.A. thing </div> Maybe, actually most of my friends are from OC <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">He left? Where to?</div> Miami... The Heat are definitely one of this summer's biggest winners, if not THE biggest winner.
i dont know why, but i know way too many people that like the clippers and cant name more than 2 or 3 players on the team, i hate those people they are trying to be different from liking the lakers so they go with the clippers, i know some of them dont know anyone, but they still have apparal of them and say the clippers are the tightest team, i hate them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting KareemTheRush:</div><div class="quote_post">i dont know why, but i know way too many people that like the clippers and cant name more than 2 or 3 players on the team, i hate those people they are trying to be different from liking the lakers so they go with the clippers, i know some of them dont know anyone, but they still have apparal of them and say the clippers are the tightest team, i hate them.</div> me too
