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Discussion in 'Boston Celtics' started by Wink23, Jul 16, 2004.

  1. hagrid

    hagrid JBB JustBBall Member

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">No room it correct name spelling when you obviously cannot spell "because". LOL</div>

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    Mis-typing a random word and getting someones name wrong are 2 completely different things. I could have used spell check, whereas You were still wrong. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yes I can because it's my opinion.</div>

    Wow, profound. You really blew our doors off with that one. How about coming up with something that actually isn't a cop out?

    Having an opinion is all fine and good, but making one without having anything of substance in formulating it is pretty much tantamount to purposeful ignorance.

    If you had said something like: "Perkins shouldn't be counted on for anything yet", or "Perkins hasn't done anything yet", then we could have simply responded by informing you that the team had no intentions of playing him his rookie season.

    Calling the guy a bum because he didn't do anything his first year is ridiculous. By that reasoning, there are hundreds of players who are "Bums" by your standards, who ended up having very respectable and even great NBA careers.
     
  2. og15

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    Hmm, this conversation turned stupid, no one can claim any clear winner already, but for people to just say all these teams (except New Jersey) didn't improve is stupid.

    Boston - Raef Lafrentz basically didn't play the whole year, so him playing this year means they improved, and they have a lot of young guys. I think Perkins could enter the bottom of the rotation this year, and though Brandon Hunter was a bad loss for nothing, AI Jefferson looks able to maybe slightly contribute earlier than expected.
    I won't put much hope on Tony Allen and Delonte West yet though. One thing is that they have Mark Blount and Raef, I wouldn't call it the best combo of PF-C in the Atlantic because New York's Dampier and Kurt Thomas is likely better, but it's still a good one.

    New York- Getting Dampier and probably Jamal Crawford, I'd say they had the best depth at the 2 and 3 if they got Crawford because Allan Houston, Tim Thomas, Penny Hardaway, and Jamal Crawford is pretty good, and even DerMarr Johnson has looked decent. Also we have to remember Sweetney, if anyone watched he was very good off the bench and when getting minutes he did good, he's like a mediocre man's Elton Brand, but not as good offensively, and not the same blocker, but is a beast on the boards.


    Toronto - We got a center which is where we were abused last year, and something that the starter of this thread seemed to ignore is that Jalen Rose had a broken hand the whole season, think of how that affects a players game.
    The Celtics beat the Raptors by 3 games, and we went 0-9 without Carter, and 0-6 when Carter went down due to Bowen in a game which we were winning, and had a backcourt of Milt-Alvin, Milt-Glover, and Milt- Roger Mason JR.
    The Raptors also got a PG, Rafer is no elite player, but not having a PG on your team can be really detrimental.


    Philadelphia - How could they not improve? How many games did Glenn Robinson and Iverson play last year? Is Samuel Dalmbert going to suddenly get worse? Hasn't anyone seen Willie Green and John Salmons, they look like pretty good rotation guys, and McKie is always good as a shooter.
    Also they got Iguodala who won't start but will probably get minutes and is a good addiiton off the bench, he can do everything, and is a good defender.
    Even with all that, the Sixers got Brian Skinner who averaged 10.5, 7.3 and 1.09 blocks in 28 minutes at C, while he's a natural PF.
    To say the Sixers or any of these teams have stayed Stagnant is just pure ignorance.
     
  3. N4S

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    Pretty dumb comments on all these teams and it seems that you just don't like this division. Anyone agree? I also find that statement under your sig pretty humorous, hahaha Clippers dynasty? I that what he said? LMFAO!
     
  4. 44Thrilla

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    pretty dumb comments? read your own posts for that.
    He did a good job summing up all the teams.
    Oh, and learn how to read.
    That's "legacy", not "dynasty."
     
  5. P.A.P.

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    Well it's not a given that Dampier will be heading to NY. If he does, then the Knicks might have to give up Dampier in that deal. A Sweetney and Thomas frontcourt will be pretty sweet, no pun intended.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44caliberThrila:</div><div class="quote_post">He did a good job summing up all the teams.
    Oh, and learn how to read.
    That's "legacy", not "dynasty."</div>

    Pretty hurtful comment coming from a friggin NOOB (LOL), are you also going to wash og15's jock after you guys run ball one night as well. [​IMG]
     
  7. hagrid

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Pretty dumb comments on all these teams and it seems that you just don't like this division</div>

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    If they are so "dumb" then why not refute them rather than submitting what appear to be very "dumb" comments yourself?

    og15 is a hell of alot more impartial than alot of posters on this site and I'll put his posts up in comparison to yours ANYTIME.
     
  8. N4S

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    Ok and who the hell put Master hagrid in position, gimme a friggin break. Go read most of my posts because they pretty much show that I know just about as much as you and og15 most likely more. Just because you guys have more posts than me and have been registered on here longer means that I should bow down to you. Understood? Thought So.
     
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    They didn't get the JustBBall First Team title for no reason. It's very apparent, that you're extremely bias towards the 76ers.
     
  10. hagrid

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    I'll let the mods deal with you.

    <font color="DarkRed"><font size="1">(If it wasn't a violation of site guidelines, I'd be glad to tell you what I think of your post quality.)</font></font>
     
  11. N4S

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    Let them deal w/ me because I made I never did anything wrong. I made sure I didn't type any kind of foul language that would offend anybody and if what I used in my post offends you I find it pretty funny. Another thing JustBBall 1st Team is really just a label and doesn't tell me that your more intellegent and more knowledgable than most of the new members on here and the people that really dont have full access to a pc. So let it be, nuff said!
     
  12. Wink23

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">Let them deal w/ me because I made I never did anything wrong. I made sure I didn't type any kind of foul language that would offend anybody and if what I used in my post offends you I find it pretty funny. Another thing JustBBall 1st Team is really just a label and doesn't tell me that your more intellegent and more knowledgable than most of the new members on here and the people that really dont have full access to a pc. So let it be, nuff said!</div>


    You whine too much and talk a lot of bull, take it to another forum [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">Let them deal w/ me because I made I never did anything wrong. I made sure I didn't type any kind of foul language that would offend anybody and if what I used in my post offends you I find it pretty funny. Another thing JustBBall 1st Team is really just a label and doesn't tell me that your more intellegent and more knowledgable than most of the new members on here and the people that really dont have full access to a pc. So let it be, nuff said!</div>


    Please explain to me how the sixers got better and will win the Atlantic...
     
  14. hagrid

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    The only thing that offends me is that you think you can come into a message board environment and tell others that thier posts are dumb and then have the audacity to say things like "because it's my opinion" as justification for your own comments.

    As if we're supposed to give it due weight because "it's your opinion", when you haven't bothered to provide any justification or reasoning to back your "opinions" and to this point in the thread, you still haven't on several topic comments, which YOU brought up originally.

    The fact that you care about post count is laughable. There's a reason that peoples post count doesn't show up under thier username:

    Because this site requires that participants value QUALITY not QUANTITY. It requires that posters provide INTELLIGENT CONVERSATION, something to this point you've proven to be whoafully inept at.

    Since the beginning I've told the Administration that while I mean no disrespect, I could care less whether I recieve any accolades for my posts.

    They know that and yet I still end up on the awards list. Wonder why that is? Maybe, just maybe, it's because I've earned it through proper expression of my thoughts and showing appropriate respect for others on the site.
     
  15. N4S

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    Ok this is over, and I'll be the mature one and say sorry if I offended anybody. And one more thing, I never said that the Sixers would definitely win the Atlantic.
     
  16. og15

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">Pretty dumb comments on all these teams and it seems that you just don't like this division. Anyone agree? I also find that statement under your sig pretty humorous, hahaha Clippers dynasty? I that what he said? LMFAO!</div>
    Clippers Dynasty?
    Where did I say that, I said Shaun Livingston's legacy, not the Clippers dynasty, I seriously first thought you were talking to someone else, but couldn't find anyone else with something similar in their sig.

    I don't know what you are angry about really, I was just sumarising that every team has improved.

    Odd, very odd indeed.
     
  17. N4S

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    I know, I mis-read and the whole thing is over. You missed it og15, it got pretty ugly in here. No biggie.
     
  18. 44Thrilla

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Pretty hurtful comment coming from a friggin NOOB (LOL), are you also going to wash og15's jock after you guys run ball one night as well.</div>WHAT?
    Hurtful comments? Look at your post above mine and you will see the same thing.

    I'm a "NOOB"? What does that have to do with anything? Does that has some kind of relevance? Yeah, you found this site before I did. What is the point? You aren't going to discredit anything I may say simply by the fact that I have been a member for a shorter period of time than yourself.

    You really need to learn how a discussion works. You have an exteremly bias opinion on this particular topic, and I'm sure this isn't a first. I am the biggest Celtics fan you will ever come across, but I certainly understand their shortcomings. You need to try to have a more impartial view of things before people can take your opinions seriously.

    One thing you have said is appalling. You said, and I assume you were serious, that in your opinion, Kendrick Perkins is a bum. How can anybody in their right mind make a statement like that and expect to be taken seriously? What do you even know about him? Have you seen him play at all? Since when is a late first round high school draft pick expected to contribute? Besides Lebron and Amare, what high school player has made a huge impact in their first year? This kid Perkins played in nothing but garbage time last year. He wasn't expected to contribute, nor was he ever given an opportunity. He may end up being a bust, but it is WAY too early to even speak on that, whether it is "in your opinion" or not. And, If you are going to make a statement like that, at least ATTEMPT to back up your claim, even a "NOOB" like me wouldn't do a thing like that....
     
  19. B.e.

    B.e. The One Who Score Touchdowns and Spikes Mics

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    Melo went to Syracuse buddy.

    But I will give you a reason why the Celtics probally won't win the Atlantic,Atkins is probally going to get dealt and I have been hearing for Eric Williams,so that leaves you with one pure PG Marcus Banks,who is not expierenced enough to run point,teams who dont have expierence at PG seem to struggle.
     
  20. 44Thrilla

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Melo went to Syracuse buddy.</div>
    HAHA Good point. I don't know where that came from.
    I don't think the Celts should make that Atkins trade, but it won't hurt them that much if they do. I also don't think that the Celtics will the Atlantic. But I also don't think the Sixers will either.
     

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