Trade Checker Trades for Vince

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  1. Carcharias

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    Toronto trades:
    SF Vince Carter
    (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)

    Toronto receives:
    SF Clarence Weatherspoon
    (5.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.7 minutes)

    *
    SF Eric Piatkowski
    (4.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.3 minutes)

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    SF Jimmy Jackson
    (4.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.3 minutes)

    Change in team outlook: -13.4 ppg, +0.6 rpg, and -3.7 apg.


    Houston trades:
    SF Clarence Weatherspoon
    (5.0 ppg, 3.9 rpg, 0.6 apg in 16.7 minutes)

    *
    SF Eric Piatkowski
    (4.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.3 minutes)

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    SF Jimmy Jackson
    (4.1 ppg, 1.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 14.3 minutes)

    Houston receives:
    SF Vince Carter
    (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)

    Change in team outlook: +13.4 ppg, -0.6 rpg, and +3.7 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED


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    Eh...why not...like to see him and Tmac again
     
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    Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes)
    Toronto receives: SF Ricky Davis (14.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    SG Paul Pierce (22.9 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.1 apg in 38.7 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +8.8 ppg, +3.5 rpg, and +2.7 apg.

    Boston trades: SF Ricky Davis (14.4 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 3.3 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    SG Paul Pierce (22.9 ppg, 6.5 rpg, 5.1 apg in 38.7 minutes)
    Boston receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games)
    Change in team outlook: -8.8 ppg, -3.5 rpg, and -2.7 apg.
    TRADE ACCEPTED
    Due to Toronto and Boston being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Toronto and Boston had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


    Toronto trades: PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.9 minutes)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Toronto receives: SG Larry Hughes (18.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.4 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    PG Gilbert Arenas (19.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 5.0 apg in 37.6 minutes)
    C Brendan Haywood (7.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.3 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +20.0 ppg, +6.9 rpg, and +3.0 apg.

    Washington trades: SG Larry Hughes (18.8 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 2.4 apg in 33.8 minutes)
    PG Gilbert Arenas (19.6 ppg, 4.6 rpg, 5.0 apg in 37.6 minutes)
    C Brendan Haywood (7.0 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 0.6 apg in 19.3 minutes)
    Washington receives: PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 35 games)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    Change in team outlook: -20.0 ppg, -6.9 rpg, and -3.0 apg.
    TRADE ACCEPTED
    Due to Toronto and Washington being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Toronto and Washington had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


    Toronto trades: PG Milt Palacio (4.4 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 3.1 apg in 20.5 minutes)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Toronto receives: SF Andrei Kirilenko (16.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.1 minutes)
    PF Carlos Boozer (15.5 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.6 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +5.1 ppg, +13.0 rpg, and -2.8 apg.

    Utah trades: SF Andrei Kirilenko (16.5 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 3.1 apg in 37.1 minutes)
    PF Carlos Boozer (15.5 ppg, 11.4 rpg, 2.0 apg in 34.6 minutes)
    Utah receives: PG Milt Palacio (4.4 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 3.1 apg in 59 games)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    Change in team outlook: -5.1 ppg, -13.0 rpg, and +2.8 apg.
    TRADE ACCEPTED
    Due to Toronto being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Toronto had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


    So here are three trades that I would consider if I were the Raps GM. I love the washington trade. Gets Vince together with Jamison and gives us some younger talent and a center.

    The rest I think are possible and make sense to both teams. I know they won't happen, but you only asked for possible scenarios.
     
  4. Carcharias

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    <font color="Purple">Toronto trades:

    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 30.9 minutes)
    PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)

    Toronto receives:

    C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    SF Qyntel Woods (3.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 10.8 minutes)
    PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)

    Change in team outlook: -18.2 ppg, -0.4 rpg, and -6.8 apg. </font>

    Portland trades:

    C Theo Ratliff (7.9 ppg, 7.2 rpg, 0.8 apg in 31.3 minutes)
    SF Qyntel Woods (3.6 ppg, 2.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 10.8 minutes)
    PF Shareef Abdur-Rahim (16.3 ppg, 7.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 31.6 minutes)

    Portland receives:

    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 56 games)
    PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)

    Change in team outlook: +18.2 ppg, +0.4 rpg, and +6.8 apg.
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    TRADE ACCEPTED</font>
     
  5. VinKanaddy

    VinKanaddy JBB JustBBall Member

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    I'd never do that Portland Raptors trade if I was Babcock. Why would you wanna give up VC, AW and DM for a proven loser in Shareef Abdur-Rahim and an aging centre in Theo Ratliff?
     
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    I think the portland deal would be a step back to the Raps too. Besides Shareef plays the 4 which is Bosh's position.
     
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    Wow that Houston one was just ugly, horrible and nasty, Piatkowski, Jim Jackson and Weatherspoon??
    WOW
     
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    Toronto trades: SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 15.7 minutes)
    Toronto receives: PF Tyson Chandler (6.1 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 22.4 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +0.1 ppg, +5.0 rpg, and -0.2 apg.

    Chicago trades: PF Tyson Chandler (6.1 ppg, 7.7 rpg, 0.7 apg in 22.4 minutes)
    Chicago receives: SF Lamond Murray (6.0 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 33 games)
    Change in team outlook: -0.1 ppg, -5.0 rpg, and +0.2 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Toronto and Chicago being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Toronto and Chicago had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

    That's IF, only IF Chandler puts some weight on and plays Centre, otherwise we don't need him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Wow that Houston one was just ugly, horrible and nasty, Piatkowski, Jim Jackson and Weatherspoon??
    WOW</div>

    lol...no kidding. you COULD make any trade work on the trade checker by putting togther a whole bunch of throw ins for vince. that houston trade is an abosolute joke. sure it works...but look at it. houston gets an all star, one of the most popular player in the league and a 20ppg player, for 3 bench players. HORRIBLE deal.


    here is another example...sure its "accepted" but would new orleans really part with magloire now that they are in the west? prolly not

    Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)
    Toronto receives: PG Baron Davis (22.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 7.5 apg in 40.1 minutes)
    C Jamaal Magloire (13.7 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 33.9 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: -0.6 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and +2.3 apg.

    New Orleans trades: PG Baron Davis (22.9 ppg, 4.3 rpg, 7.5 apg in 40.1 minutes)
    C Jamaal Magloire (13.7 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 1.1 apg in 33.9 minutes)
    New Orleans receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)
    Change in team outlook: +0.6 ppg, 0.0 rpg, and -2.3 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED
     
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    he doesnt want to be traded!!!! (source justbball.com) he said he isnt goin anywere
     
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    Toronto trades: PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    Toronto receives: PF Elton Brand (20.0 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 38.8 minutes)
    SF Corey Maggette (20.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.0 minutes)
    Change in team outlook: +3.5 ppg, +1.6 rpg, and +0.1 apg.

    L.A. Clippers trades: PF Elton Brand (20.0 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 38.8 minutes)
    SF Corey Maggette (20.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.0 minutes)
    L.A. Clippers receives: PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)
    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    Change in team outlook: -3.5 ppg, -1.6 rpg, and -0.1 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    *****

    I would do this in a second!
     
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    ^^ but why would we want another PF? We got Bosh in that position to start.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting VinKanaddy:</div><div class="quote_post">^^ but why would we want another PF? We got Bosh in that position to start.</div>

    I think Brand could play some center...he has decent sized, just not that tall. I mean we had Antonio Davis playing center all those years, so why not Brand? Brand is a better defender and rebounder than Davis and thrown in the fact that we're playing in the East and I don't think it would be that much of a problem.

    Brand
    Bosh
    Maggette
    Rose
    Alston

    looks pretty good to me...
     
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    Toronto trades:

    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes)
    PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 36.5 minutes)
    PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 11.9 minutes)

    Toronto receives:

    SF Desmond Mason (14.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.9 apg in 30.9 minutes)
    PF Joe Smith (10.9 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.7 minutes)
    PF Etan Thomas (8.9 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes)
    SG Michael Redd (21.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.8 minutes)

    Change in team outlook: +15.8 ppg, +6.8 rpg, and -0.4 apg.

    Milwaukee trades:

    SF Desmond Mason (14.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.9 apg in 30.9 minutes)
    PF Joe Smith (10.9 ppg, 8.5 rpg, 1.0 apg in 29.7 minutes)
    PF Etan Thomas (8.9 ppg, 6.7 rpg, 0.9 apg in 24.1 minutes)
    SG Michael Redd (21.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.8 minutes)

    Milwaukee receives:

    SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games)
    PF Donyell Marshall (14.7 ppg, 9.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 82 games)
    PF Jerome Moiso (2.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.2 apg in 35 games)

    Change in team outlook: -15.8 ppg, -6.8 rpg, and +0.4 apg.

    TRADE ACCEPTED

    Due to Toronto and Milwaukee being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Toronto and Milwaukee had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.

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    Just another Random trade, I'd do this in a heartbeat..
     
  15. Mamba

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    The Clippers would never do that...and Brand is only 6'8 and Brand is much more valuable than VC anyday...
     
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    A lot of these trades are really unrealistic, all the trade checker does is match the salaries, so I don't really see a point in this thread.

    Eclipse, the Clippers wouldn't even think of doing that trade, Maggette is worth Vince, to have Brand in there is blasphemy.

    Sure the salaries match for all the trades, but almost none seem realistic; mainly for the other team.
     
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    ^ I know the Clippers wouldn't agree to it...but I'm thinking if it was a one-for-one Vince for Maggette, the Clippers would seriously think about it. After losing out on Kobe, they need another star player to get fans in the seats and Vince would definately do that.

    From our standpoint, I would definately agree to a Maggette for Vince trade (if we had to trade Vince). I think it would be a fair trade for both teams.

    Edit: yeah I just had to throw in Brand and Marshall to make the salaries match...too bad Maggette for VC wouldn't work because it would be good for both teams.
     
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    I dunno.. I'd rather keep VC if he comes out and says he doesn't want to be traded. I'd hate to see VC become another T-Mac.. I'd rather see Vince bring back the Vinsanity next season.
     
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    yeah, I don't want to see Vince go, but if he doesn't want to be here anymore, Maggette is one player that we would get almost equal value for and has a ton of talent.
     
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    Agreed. [​IMG] But the question remains.. would Maggette give up the nice So-Cal weather and the city of Los Angeles to play in Canada? Like VC did when he signed the 7 year extension in 2000?
     

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