I just saw that there and i was about to post about it.But looks like you beat be to it. I just can't see carter going out of Toronto unless the trade is right and something that the Raptors just could'nt resist so i don't really see the Clippers giving away Richardson , Maggette or Brand which is what the Raptors would really want obviously but time will tell.
Well Maggette can't be traded until July 29th and that is the only person other than Brand that I would trade Carter for. IF the Clips can take some of our bad contracts along with Carter's whiney behind for Maggette and a filler I would not be opposed to this deal.
If the Raps dont trade for at least 2 of the 3 stars on the Clips team for Vince, they have been cheated. Maybe the Raps will settle for 3 draft picks? LOL
This story is really meaningless to me, because it gives one "expert" opinion on what the Raptors should do.
Why is he talking like he talked to Vince? What he needs to do is shut the hell up and stop jynxin our chance.
All I got from reading this article was that the writer really does not know all that much about basketball. I don't like these opinion pieces where the writer just seems to know whats best for Vince and Raptors. He writes about how the new management want new players in, but that's nearly impossible considering the whole team was built around Vince and are largely untradeable because of their huge contracts. Another thing he says is that the Raptors are missing someone like Oakley to push Vince into playing better but I think we have that now in Jalen. Jalen played with a broken finger last season so the Raptors would have a chance to make the playoffs. You could tell it was killing him not being able to play when he was on the bench injured. All these reports of Jalen being selfish are greatly exaggerated. He's definately someone that could push Vince into playing better.
On top of him just throwing out his personal opinions and thoughts on the Raps Management, and Carter, he throws in some wacky trade proposals. The Clippers wouldn't take back Lamond Murray or take Alvin Williams contract inable to get Vince. And the Raptors management aren't dumb enough to give away Vince Carter for Q. The raps can't possibly benefit from this other than a few million in cap space.
and even if we had cap space, as we have seen in the past, players are not always willing to sign up to play basketball in Canada. Without an established star like Vince here, it's going to be even more difficult to get free agents.
what's funny about the whole situation is that: everything has been so quite on the trade front and trade rumours in the NBA that some reporter decided to pull Vince's name out of a hat and report his opinion about what the raptors should do for the revival of the franchise... and then, you have all of these media influenced junkies ready to write carter off because some reporter said so...keep in mind that it was just this reporter opinion and there have been NO sources stating this was even a consideration by either organizations.... i agree with some of the posts in this topic, and it's what i believe as well, carter and rose could be a great one two punch,...as we've seen last year, rose has great respect for Carter and they have chemistry when they play together (especially before o'neil intervined and ruined the 5 game honeymoon when Rose came to toronto)....and we're not even considering the other talent we have on the team...bosh, marshal, rafeer, and rookie araujo...
cap space, that's horrible, yea we're the first players think to come to when they're FA's Q-Rich? I would hate that, I'm not a big fan of Q-Rich, if we traded Carter to the Clippers we better be getting Maggette back unless it's useless.
I don't understand what's so bad about Carter. Besides being rumored to despising the organization and wanting a trade, why should he be traded? There's only a few players with the caliber of Vince, so why would you trade him? To possibly have more success in the future than Vince had? As for this trade, I could care less if Maggette is approaching Vince's level or if he exceeds it during the stint with the Raptors. He better have the capability of leading the team like Vince did, or he'll be another player with a a great caliber and no success. It's exactly why I would take Vince over friggin elite 2 guard Tracy McGrady, in all seriousness. Why did the Suns trade Charles Barkley when he lead them to the finals? To possibly have more success in the future than Barkley had? Guess what, they had a bright future of Turmoil, therefore having no successs 11 years and counting. Bosh is the future, but what success are we going to have if he leaves? Do you all just don't give a crap if the Raptors have no success in 5 years because you know the Raptors will win the championship in 6 more years? As Vince said before last season, the Raptors need to win now. The Raptors will most likely win earlier with Vince than any other player in replace, especially with the developing Bosh for Vince to tutor and develop on the court.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post"> cap space, that's horrible, yea we're the first players think to come to when they're FA's Q-Rich? I would hate that, I'm not a big fan of Q-Rich, if we traded Carter to the Clippers we better be getting Maggette back unless it's useless.</div> Maybe we convince them to give us Livingston as well to go with Maggette (not happening)
If Vince gets traded to the Clippers....trade proposals Here are a few trades that can happen 1) Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes) Toronto receives: PF Elton Brand (20.0 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 38.8 minutes) SF Bobby Simmons (7.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.6 minutes) Change in team outlook: +5.3 ppg, +10.2 rpg, and +0.2 apg. L.A. Clippers trades: PF Elton Brand (20.0 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 38.8 minutes) SF Bobby Simmons (7.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.6 minutes) L.A. Clippers receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games) Change in team outlook: -5.3 ppg, -10.2 rpg, and -0.2 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED 2) Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes) Toronto receives: SF Corey Maggette (20.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.0 minutes) C Chris Kaman (6.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.5 minutes) SF Bobby Simmons (7.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.6 minutes) PF Chris Wilcox (8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.6 minutes) Change in team outlook: +20.7 ppg, +16.1 rpg, and +1.8 apg. L.A. Clippers trades: SF Corey Maggette (20.7 ppg, 5.9 rpg, 3.1 apg in 36.0 minutes) C Chris Kaman (6.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.5 minutes) SF Bobby Simmons (7.8 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 1.7 apg in 24.6 minutes) PF Chris Wilcox (8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.6 minutes) L.A. Clippers receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games) Change in team outlook: -20.7 ppg, -16.1 rpg, and -1.8 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED 3) Toronto trades: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 38.1 minutes) PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 30.9 minutes) Toronto receives: PF Elton Brand (20.0 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 38.8 minutes) C Chris Kaman (6.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.5 minutes) PF Chris Wilcox (8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.6 minutes) SG Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.8 apg in 30.4 minutes) Change in team outlook: +11.9 ppg, +16.1 rpg, and +1.1 apg. L.A. Clippers trades: PF Elton Brand (20.0 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 3.3 apg in 38.8 minutes) C Chris Kaman (6.1 ppg, 5.6 rpg, 1.0 apg in 22.5 minutes) PF Chris Wilcox (8.6 ppg, 4.7 rpg, 0.8 apg in 20.6 minutes) SG Marko Jaric (8.5 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 4.8 apg in 30.4 minutes) L.A. Clippers receives: SF Vince Carter (22.5 ppg, 4.8 rpg, 4.8 apg in 73 games) PG Alvin Williams (8.8 ppg, 2.7 rpg, 4.0 apg in 56 games) Change in team outlook: -11.9 ppg, -16.1 rpg, and -1.1 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED What do you guys think??? <font color="red">Threads merged. You don't need to make a separate thread for trades, everything about Carter possibly going to L.A. can be discussed here. Refer to the sticky at the top of this forum about duplicate threads. -Franchise</font>
Elton Brand should NEVER be traded for Carter, he's the 4th best PF in the league, and you'd trade him for Carter who is arguable a top 5 playeri n his position. Also you don't trade a big for a small unless you have another big because its just stupid, and it's Brand and another player for Carter Maggette, Kaman, Simmons and Wilcox is just laughable, you'rej ust matching contracts, you aren't even looking at value, Maggette and one more person is what would go down for Carter. The last one is just retarded, all their ood big men for a SG and Alvin, how stupid, NONE of these are even possible. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Here are a few trades that can happen</div> In what world?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting og15:</div><div class="quote_post">Elton Brand should NEVER be traded for Carter, he's the 4th best PF in the league, and you'd trade him for Carter who is arguable a top 5 playeri n his position. Also you don't trade a big for a small unless you have another big because its just stupid, and it's Brand and another player for Carter </div> yeah i agree i think brand is behind td, kg, j.oneill and his value is just going to go up cause he's still young. however, sterling might want to land a marketing phenomena like vince but the soundest basketball move would be to retain brand.
