Ain't someone being underestimated here?

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  1. dakeem1

    dakeem1 JBB JustBBall Member

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    Hey, have you all forgot about Tyron Lue. OK, sure he's played backup most of his career, but he can handle running Houston's offence. With Yao n T-Mac, we don't exactly need a Jason Kidd in our team.
    Lue's had ch.ship experience with the Lakers and knows how 2 play with big men.. give him a chance guys.
     
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    u make a good point
     
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    People aren't underestimating the guy, he's said himself he isn't starting material.
     
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    yea i remember that, didnt he help LA slowing down AI or something? I dont remember. What I think will happen wit Lue is that all this no PG in houston will motivate him to play better. Probably not alot, but better than the time orlando.
     
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    He lacks confidence, and that might be because he has never faced the pressure of starting on a pro team before, and the experience in Orlando must have taught him plenty. I think he is starting material, but not under Jeff Van Gundy in Houston. He is too small to play good defense, and bad defenders don't start on a defense-oriented team.
     
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    He is not under rated or anything he is a decent pg but is not capable of running an NBA team,he even said that he is more comfortable at being a back up pg and he playes best when he is a back up because there is not that much pressure on him.
     
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    Lue isnt going to be a point guard that is going to control tempo, Iam not even talking about playmaking per say, I just talkiing about controlling tempo, getting a team into their offensive sets quickly etc. Lue isnt going to be that type of pg to do those things well. And with the West so evenly matched, sometimes it comes down to little things like that which can be the difference between a win & a loss. I mean Lue is solid and he does end up being the starting pg, then he will know his role & his limits. His role will basically be to be a spot up shot at the point guard position, make the open jumpshot off t-mac penetration, Ming postup etc. But I think the Rockets need a little more from the PG slot as far as someone to run the offense, if they want to really have an impact this season. The Rockets are going to be giving up alot with the class of Cassell, Davis, Bibby, Parker, Payton, Nash etc all located in the west. From a defensive aspect as well, seeing as Cassell, Davis, Payton are some of the most physical pg's in the league as far as using their bodies to post up, draw fouls, finish plays around the basket etc.

    If Mark comes back that would definately help, but how much can you expect out of a 39 year-old point guard over a spand of 82 games? Last season he came to the Rockets with half the season already gone basically which allowed him to be alot fresher in the 2nd half of the season then he would be next year playing a full 82 games.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Philla Fan 22:</div><div class="quote_post">He is not under rated or anything he is a decent pg but is not capable of running an NBA team,he even said that he is more comfortable at being a back up pg and he playes best when he is a back up because there is not that much pressure on him.</div>
    Yes I agree with that statement. I remember in the finals when thje lakers used him on AI because he was the only one that could keep up with AI. Though when they played him longer minutes he didnt do as well. He is a decent backup, but never was or will be starting material. He doesnt have the confidence or work ethic to be the starter in houston. He cant stay consistant long minutes in a game.
     
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    Lue is strictly a backup...he can come in and change game tempo with his pressure defense and uptempo style...he's a glorified sparkplug, pretty much...he is undersized, is average at best at shooting the ball, and is not really much of a playmaker...he's a great backup, but a horrible starter...
     
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    well if worst comes to worst, i guess we'd just have to settle with a pg rotation. won't matter if lue starts or not, if it an even rotation, it wud just hav 2 be the best for now. wat a shame.. i think it'd take another 2 seasons b4 we're in shape for another title.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">well if worst comes to worst, i guess we'd just have to settle with a pg rotation. won't matter if lue starts or not, if it an even rotation, it wud just hav 2 be the best for now. wat a shame.. i think it'd take another 2 seasons b4 we're in shape for another title.</div>
    We can basically just have a glut of average PG's and play them by rotation, whoever has a previous good game will start. Some teams with dominant players at other positions get by with it, and I think we can do the same. Besides, all we need to have is someone who plays defense, makes a few open jumpers, and dribbles the ball upcourt.
     
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    The Rockets deffiantly need to go after Damon Jones he is a solid PG and I think he could average 10ppg+ and 5apg+ if he gets enough playing time and starts.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Philla Fan 22:</div><div class="quote_post">The Rockets deffiantly need to go after Damon Jones he is a solid PG and I think he could average 10ppg+ and 5apg+ if he gets enough playing time and starts.</div>
    Actually, if those are the numbers we're after, Lue can give us the same production. All that Jones has over Lue is a size advantage, and basically nothing else.
     
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    Lue's a role player

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">Hey, have you all forgot about Tyron Lue. OK, sure he's played backup most of his career, but he can handle running Houston's offence. With Yao n T-Mac, we don't exactly need a Jason Kidd in our team.
    Lue's had ch.ship experience with the Lakers and knows how 2 play with big men.. give him a chance guys.</div>

    His championship experiance is valuable, but not starter like valuable. No way can T.Lue be the starter for the rockets. He was a role player for the Lakers and Wizards before ending up in Houston. Didn't anyone see how bad he was next to Jordan as the Wiz's starting PG? The rockets need to find a better starter and Lue will be a great 6th or 7th man off the bench instead of being a average starter. That's the difference between solid starter and role player.


    Houston will be the 3rd seed in the West!
     
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    I see Lue as our 7th man. We need to land someone like Damon Jones or Antonio Daniels. I read on insidehoops.com (or was it hoopshype.com? One of those sites) that the Rockets were one of the front runners to land Damon Jones. I would like to see him as a Rocket becuase I think he is capable of a 15 and 8 type game. With the Bucks, he's really limited with what he can do, because all he needs to do is pass it to Redd or Desmond Mason. And when TJ Ford comes back (for a full recovery), he's gonna get sat on the bench. Daniels, has strength, but lacks a certain speed. If we get either one, our guard rotation would look a lot better. Ty Lue's experience and defense will help, but he really doesnt play well if he's not motivated. I thought in LA he did amazingly well, but in Orlando and Washington, he lacked inspiration. I think him, Gaines, Boki, and Mo Taylor will be a great bench.<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Houston will be the 3rd seed in the West!</div> Hm. I dont know about that. We arent even sure about a playoff spot. Every team in the West, except for the LAs, and Dallas, have made some changes that bettered their team. Even the Lakers (contradicting my earlier statement). They went with youth, signed a more than average center, and will, IMO, be a fast paced team, that will use the break a lot. Dallas also went with youth, letting a guy in his 30s sign a rather big contract. They drafted a guard, got a new center, and still have Howard and Daniels. Not to mention Dirk and Finley.
     
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    For the simple reason that he played college for houston, i think Damon would be a good fit. hehe.. well, at least theres a chance that he'd love to play for us since he spent his college yrs around the area..
     

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