Bulls stall trade talks for crawford to new york

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  1. Midnight Green

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Jamal Crawford's agent, Aaron Goodwin, is trying to finalize a deal that would send his client from the Bulls to the New York Knicks, but it doesn't appear imminent.

    Goodwin was attempting to lure Knicks operations chief Isiah Thomas and Bulls general manager John Paxson into the same room this weekend. But Paxson is in Salt Lake City for the Rocky Mountain Revue, where the Bulls are 5-1.

    ''They will have to wait until early next week when I get back into town,'' Paxson said. ''I'd like to see us get something accomplished, too. But I don't know how optimistic I am that it will get done.

    ''We still have to get short-term contracts back and big-time financial relief. If it's us going to take on longer-term deals, it probably won't get worked out. But maybe getting in a room face to face will help them better understand our side.''

    Goodwin is more confident.

    ''Having talked to both of them enough, I'm assuming they are reasonable enough to get something done if I can get them together,'' Goodwin said. ''Every time I think we have something that should work, it doesn't work. But if we could all get in a room, we should be able to reach a solution.

    ''Isiah tells me that he is willing to fly to wherever to get a deal done. But John and I have been missing each other because of cell phone trouble.''

    A bigger problem than logistics is the fact Paxson only wants expiring contracts in return for Crawford, Jerome Williams and Eddie Robinson. Thomas wants to include Moochie Norris, who has two years guaranteed, while Paxson wants Dikembe Mutombo.

    ''We are discussing deals with other teams,'' Goodwin said. </div>
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  2. Ed!

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    Moochie Norris? He's an OK backup pointguard, and we're stacked at the position with players who are better than him. I will be pissed if we get Shandon Anderson or Moochie. Deke would be a good backup center. I wish we could do a 3-way trade so we can aqcuire a solid starting shooting guard, such as Kerry Kittles. But, I doubt that happens, i just hope Pax doesn't pull the trigger on a bad trade.
     
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    If the Bulls trade off Crawford, I'm betting that it's almost a guarantee that Ben Gordon gets the starting nod. To me, this is why they drafted him. They either wanted a solid back up point guard/shooting guard, or, they wanted someone to fill the hole Crawford could potentially leave. So, I believe Ben Gordon will be the starting shooting guard as it seems like it is now just a matter of time before Jamal gets traded somewhere.
     
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    Ben Gordon was drafted because he was the BPA. Scouts and GMs loved him after his pre-draft workouts.

    Gordon is a very capable scorer. Something the Bulls lack.

    I didn't want Crawford gone, because I wanted to build upon the backcourt of Hinrich, Gordon, and Crawford. However, if thats not the case, we need to dump the salaries of Williams and Robinson....which is why Shandon Anderson comes into play. He has a shorter contract. The hangup is Norris. The Bulls don't want him, nor his long contract. The Bulls want Deke. The Knicks seem unwilling to budge. And Paxson has stated that he wont budge on the deal, because if they (Bulls) are giving up the best asset in the trade, they want to gain something back that compensates them.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Moo2K4:</div><div class="quote_post">If the Bulls trade off Crawford, I'm betting that it's almost a guarantee that Ben Gordon gets the starting nod. To me, this is why they drafted him. They either wanted a solid back up point guard/shooting guard, or, they wanted someone to fill the hole Crawford could potentially leave. So, I believe Ben Gordon will be the starting shooting guard as it seems like it is now just a matter of time before Jamal gets traded somewhere.</div>

    paxson has already addressed that he will not make a bad trade that will screw the bulls.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting ObieCent:</div><div class="quote_post">...I wish we could do a 3-way trade so we can aqcuire a solid starting shooting guard, such as Kerry Kittles. But, I doubt that happens, i just hope Pax doesn't pull the trigger on a bad trade.</div>

    I don't think Pax will do a bad trade, every move he has done is good, and if we thought it was bad, he proved us wrong. Maybe NJ won't deal Kittles, but how about another guy on that team that would defintely help, Lucious Harris. This guy can shoot lights out. The Bulls have guys who can slash and penetrate to the basket, so Harris would be a great spot-shooter, Hinrich/Gordon can penetrate and Harris would be the perfect guy to give it to IMO.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting bhl:</div><div class="quote_post">paxson has already addressed that he will not make a bad trade that will screw the bulls.</div>

    Well, I guess that is pretty reassuring considering he is the GM.
     
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    Why are we giving up
    Jamal ( a starter) in return for three back up players
    why?
    We need a solid starter at SF or SG
    I agree on E-Robs contract and Jwill's we need to get rid of those
    horrible contracts but get decent back up's

    WHY trade for Anderson,Norris?
     
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    The Bulls are trading Jamal because they want to have cap space next year. They want to get expiring contracts so they can free up cap space for the future. That would be my thought. If they don't want to sign Jamal long term, but they want expiring contracts back, that's a good assumption also in my opinion. Also, I think they believe that Ben Gordon is ready to start in the NBA. To me, that's why they got him is so they could have the ability to trade off Crawford and not take a huge shot in the leg by doing so. By drafting him, they drafted someone who would likely start if Jamal wasn't there. But, that is beyond the point. The bottom line, the Bulls want cap space I believe, and by signing Jamal long term, they won't get much of it.
     
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    right
    but why trade a player that is going to be a
    starter on most teams for three bench players
    i know that they want expiring contracts but why
    not get a decent player in return someone who can
    contribute off the bench. why not sign and trade?

    D-Miles is still out there?
     

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