TD and KG are arguably the two best players in the NBA today this is why the argument of who is better is a draw because they are two completly different players who match the role their team needs. KG- More Versitile than TD, can play all five positions on the court, vocal team leader, never takes a play off. TD- Better post player than KG, leads by example, great defender. With a young core of guys like Parker the Spurs need a steady force like TD who doesn't get too emotional so he can calm down the young guys when they get too emotional in pressure situations. This is why he is exactly what the Spurs need. The T-Wolves are a team that is on the verge of great things so they need a fiery leader who will get in his teammates' faces and let them know when they aren't living up to their potential.
Shaq, Ming and Dampier are very strong powerful men who would you want to play these(Shaq, Ming and Dampier) guys TD or KG? You have to say TD just because KG is more Versitile doesn't mean he play these (Shaq, Ming and Dampier)guys all the time compared to TD how many time do you see KG on Shaq not many he might play Kobe more then Shaq. and when you are builting a team you have to start with TD Lot of people think just because KG is alittle flassy that he is better but he is not. how many games did Duncan miss this year it was about fourteen games and they(Spurs) ended one game behind Minnesota if KG would have missed that many games i bet you that they would have not won their division. TD and KG are arguably the two best players in the NBA by far but they do have different games. now who do want playing the Shaqs and Mings of the NBA TD or KG
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">not neccasrily.....just cuz KG doesnt have a ring YET u cant possibly class him as just a "good" player they are both great in thier own rights (imagine them on a team)....rings shouldnt even be compared right now, do that comparison after both of thier careers are done Scott Burell and Randy Brown picked up rings with the bulls, does that make em better then KG?</div> Right now hes a good player , a damn good one at that but still he hasnt won nothing...its like calling a player who has the potential to be in the 'Hall' a HOF even before he earns his way into it. Rings do have a say so in whos better NOW , if KG ends up winning titles later in his career then this arguement couldnt be used but until he does this will always be used against KG. Just trying to do everything in ur power to downgrade Timmy arent u?...yeah they picked up rings but I dont think they were the main reason their team won , and they dont have 2 Finals MVP tophies do they? Dont downgrade the importance of the rings Duncan has.The biggest reason for playing the game of basketball is to win it all , not to be the most versatile , the most flashy , or the one who screams the most on the court...and so far the score is Timmy 2-KG 0.
I disagree with that thought, in fact, that's a bad generalization. To say that one player is better because he has more rings is bad. You're just trying to find ways to downgrade on KG now. And, if rings make players better, does this mean that Mark Madsen is better than KG? Hell no. You can't use that generalization at all. Just because someone doesn't have a ring, doesn't make them a great player. And if it does, than there are only a few "great" players in the league.
If a certain player has HUGE role in those championship then that point is valid, Duncan is the two time MVP, carried his team to two titles with ROLE PLAYERS around him. That is very tough to do. Yes these guys are good players but none of the players TD has teamed up with was/ is an all-star. His passing abilty opens things up for the spot up shooters, as during the championship season in 2003 thats basically all the Spurs players were used for. Tony Parker has improved quite abit but was only a 2nd year player when he won his first NBA title. The talent level from 2003 was not much different than what KG has had the past 7 seasons. Duncan finds a way to win and that all comes down to what he does in the post. It's hard to draw out defenders, shooting 18 footers every trip down the floor.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">If a certain player has HUGE role in those championship then that point is valid, Duncan is the two time MVP, carried his team to two titles with ROLE PLAYERS around him. That is very tough to do. Yes these guys are good players but none of the players TD has teamed up with was/ is an all-star. His passing abilty opens things up for the spot up shooters, as during the championship season in 2003 thats basically all the Spurs players were used for. Tony Parker has improved quite abit but was only a 2nd year player when he won his first NBA title. The talent level from 2003 was not much different than what KG has had the past 7 seasons. Duncan finds a way to win and that all comes down to what he does in the post. It's hard to draw out defenders, shooting 18 footers every trip down the floor.</div> THANK YOU!!! Comparing Duncan to other lesser players like Madsen , Kerr , etc who also have rings is plain wrong and showing disrespect to him.Duncan was the man on the Spurs in both title runs and deservedly got the Finals MVP trophies...we should be comparing him to the MJs , Hakeems , Shaqs , and so on. Your other point is righ on as well...like I have said a player from SA isnt on top of the list in 3 pt FG % so much because of their ability to shoot , but more so because of the open looks TD creates for them...look no further then last yr.Hedo Turkoglu who was like a 30-35% 3 pt shooter finished eight in the league shooting 42% , Bruce Bowen who had no shot whatsoever before he arrived in SA led the league in 2003...makes me wonder how well Barry will shoot with all the open looks Tim will get him , 50-55% maybe?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 9SA21SPURS20:</div><div class="quote_post">THANK YOU!!! Comparing Duncan to other lesser players like Madsen , Kerr , etc who also have rings is plain wrong and showing disrespect to him.Duncan was the man on the Spurs in both title runs and deservedly got the Finals MVP trophies...we should be comparing him to the MJs , Hakeems , Shaqs , and so on. Your other point is righ on as well...like I have said a player from SA isnt on top of the list in 3 pt FG % so much because of their ability to shoot , but more so because of the open looks TD creates for them...look no further then last yr.Hedo Turkoglu who was like a 30-35% 3 pt shooter finished eight in the league shooting 42% , Bruce Bowen who had no shot whatsoever before he arrived in SA led the league in 2003...makes me wonder how well Barry will shoot with all the open looks Tim will get him , 50-55% maybe?</div> very good don't forget about Steve Smith who won the 3 pt fg% the year before Bruce
I would rather have Duncan and I would rather watch KG. No need to take sides because the player is flashy. That's why I don't consider VC or Jason Richardson great players. Don't get me wrong, KG is a GREAT player.
Duncan. I consider KG to be the SF in the game and Duncan to be the best PF, and since teams are built around big man I'm going to go with Duncan. By the way I think Duncan is a better leader. Sam Cassell is a better leader for the Timberwolves than KG. In one game in the playoff against the Kings, the Wolves were losing and KG kind of look defeated. He went to the bench with his head down and the teamates followed. It was Cassell who wouldn't give up and singlehandedly won the game for them. Garnett didn't get along with everybody either. He said something or did something to Rahso, and Rasho is scared of him, and that's why now he seems timid on the Spurs whenever Duncan is in the game. Rasho says something about being lonely on the Wolves team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting diamondroad17:</div><div class="quote_post">Duncan. I consider KG to be the SF in the game and Duncan to be the best PF, and since teams are built around big man I'm going to go with Duncan. By the way I think Duncan is a better leader. Sam Cassell is a better leader for the Timberwolves than KG. In one game in the playoff against the Kings, the Wolves were losing and KG kind of look defeated. He went to the bench with his head down and the teamates followed. It was Cassell who wouldn't give up and singlehandedly won the game for them. Garnett didn't get along with everybody either. He said something or did something to Rahso, and Rasho is scared of him, and that's why now he seems timid on the Spurs whenever Duncan is in the game. Rasho says something about being lonely on the Wolves team.</div> Cassell and Garnett are both the leaders of that team, but KG is the main guy... Cassell will be the first to point that out. Cassell will lead by his play, while Garnett will lead by play and vocally... But Sam won't gather the team around him like the way KG will. There were times where Sam took over as the leader for stretches, but KG is the one that keeps that team together for 48 minutes. You point out the game where Sam took over (game 2 of the Sac series), but you also have to mention game 5 of the Denver series where KG just dominated like he said he would (after his controversial comments of 'war'). Also, the deciding game 7 of the Sac series was all KG. But what you said about Rasho is true, Duncan would never knock the confidence of his teammates, regardless of how poorly they play. He did not blame Hedo for not knocking down open shots, and has never bad mouthed any of his teammates. The two players in this conversation are totally different, i'm sure if u asked the GMs of the league who they would choose, it would be pretty much a split.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">Tim Duncan is a better player IMO.KG and TD are very similar players but pound for pound I would have to go with Duncan. Duncan is a better player in the post and these players are supposed to be big men,I like KG's game but it just seems like he takes to many jump shots for a PF when he should be bangin down low,but Tim Duncans game is everything sometimes he will shoot a mid range J and kiss it off the glass or other times he will be posting up people down low so IMO TD has a better offensive game. Of course this is easy to say but it is the most important thing in basketball,TD has rings and KG doesnt untill KG gets a couple of rings I say Duncan is the better player.</div> Pound for pound TD is better? You said they were nearly equal and TD must weigh at least 30 pounds more then KG.
