<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Nets trading past for future Tuesday, July 27, 2004 By AL IANNAZZONE STAFF WRITER The Nets are continuing their search for a team to take Kerry Kittles and his $9.8 million salary off their hands. With talks breaking off between New Jersey and Portland for Shareef Abdur-Rahim, the suddenly cost-conscious Nets are discussing a deal with the Clippers that would send Kittles to Los Angeles for a pair of draft picks, according to league sources. The Clippers are under the cap, so they could pull off this potential trade. It would seem the Nets don't need more draft picks after they dealt Kenyon Martin to Denver last week for three first-round choices. But they are building for the future, and trying to clear up more money so they can offer Richard Jefferson a long-term contract extension for max or near-maximum money. The Nets also would like to use part of their midlevel exception to sign free agents, among them either Eric Williams or Ron Mercer. The Nets are still speaking with Cleveland about a sign-and-trade deal of Eric Williams and Dajuan Wagner for Kittles. The Nets are waiting to see what happens with Kittles and Williams before they pursue Mercer. </div> Full Story
I think this is a major blow to the Cavs. KEerry Kittles an an aging role player. While Dajuan is a young talent just waiting to burst out. Definetly a stupid trade.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ace2k2:</div><div class="quote_post">I think this is a major blow to the Cavs. KEerry Kittles an an aging role player. While Dajuan is a young talent just waiting to burst out. Definetly a stupid trade.</div> Dajuan Wagner summer league reviews from what I have read & seen are horrible, they say he isnt playing team ball, taking to many shots & holding on to the basketball to long on offense. I always knew the guy was a ball hog since his days at Memphis, but at least he should be trying to show some growth in his game & character by now. And for that reason alone he does not excite me as a Nets fan because one thing you can be sure you get with Kittles is good character & a team player. And I'll take that anyday of the week over a young(me, myself & I) player, who has potenial to be really good.
The cavs would not do this imo. Unless they are tring to get vets around LBJ to make a playoff run this year. Wagner is a huge spark plug ofr the team off the bench can, but up double digit points then Eric Williams is just a great influence on LBJ and is a great player with alot of knoweledge about the game. They got him and batti for davis do they really want to trade both of them? IDK how big kittles contract is or how long it is, but if it is a long contract with alot of money involved I dont think the cavs should do it. The cavs would be trading there future for a player who is not that great right now and it is his prime.
Its useless... Kittles will complain about not being a starter.. causing more problems.. and Wagner will only get better and Williams is a good key player imo.
As much as I think Williams is a waste of team space, this deal would be no good. Wagner could be a quite good prospect for the future, being almost 10 years younger than Kittles. Eric Williams isn't going to be around for much less or more time than Kittles, being almost exactly the same age. If they could get a few draft picks with Kittles, the deal would be OK. A first rounder and a second rounder?
I don't think Kittles would settle as a backup. Kittles was a starter in NJ and put up some nice numbers so I don't think he would want to be coming off of the bench. Although, I'm not sure if I wan to keep D-Wag. He's a very selfish player. He either dribbles for a while then makes his move when there's almost no time left on the shotclock, or he passes it up, when there's no time left on the shotclock. He's not a very efficient player. Yes, he can hit the outside shot here and there, but he's not a team player. They tried him out at the PG position this summer, didn't work at all. They said pointguard and D-Wag should never be together in a sentence.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't think Kittles would settle as a backup.</div> Thats the biggest problem with this trade IMO. He has like no chance to start here and he always been a started so he will probaly complain just leading to more and more problems.
It's not worth taking an aging guard with a huge contract. Showcase Wagner's talent this season and maybe deal him by the deadline for a decent role player or something.
I wouldnt take an aging gaurd either.. Wagner is really good, but he is not as bad as you guys are making him sound. He can be good in the NBA he just needs the right oppurtunity. And Eric Williams is a good role player, I wouldnt mind keeping him on my team.
Also you have to realize about Wagner he never really played a full season without any injuries. And he is looking healthy.. I can see him being a great 6th man spark kind of like a Bobby Jackson or an AL Harington type of player.
If Wagner can stop being as selfish as he is, then yes I'd say he's not as bad as I'm saying he is. The man has plenty of talent and can ge a great scorer, I mean the kid scored 100 in a HS game, but it shows right there that he's selfish. Just his decision making and the selfishness are making him a bad player. If we works on that, I see him as being a great player for this Cavs team. And I wouldn't mind keeping Eric Williams either. A had worker and I was very pleased to be getting him from the Celtics trade. He make due with the minutes he gets and his numbers are impressive for the playing time he gets. He only got about 21 minutes in Boston, but put up very efficient numbers in the time he was ont he floor. Then he came over to Cleveland in a trade and was a nice fit for us.
I don't reckon that's too bad. The Cavs got to keep a couple of young players and didn't get sucked into the trap of taking an older player just because they can put up points. They saw that the teams next championship probably isn't going to be this season and so they looked to the future. For that I congratulate them. Even if Wagner and Williams might not be as good scorers or players, they will be playing for longer.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Heppy Lotmore:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't reckon that's too bad. The Cavs got to keep a couple of young players and didn't get sucked into the trap of taking an older player just because they can put up points. They saw that the teams next championship probably isn't going to be this season and so they looked to the future. For that I congratulate them. Even if Wagner and Williams might not be as good scorers or players, they will be playing for longer.</div> Wow, I can't believe this thread. IIRC, Kittles was on the LAST year of that huge contract? Williams is not coming back to Cleveland, and would've done a sign and trade for money issues ($$ able to sign with Cleveland, Nets getting salary off the books, etc), and Wagner hasn't shown anything in a Cavs uniform, no matter how promising he was in Memphis. I wouldn't mind him getting a second chance, but I don't think he'll make it as a star NBA player ever. Also, he apparently hasn't shown much this summer. So, good player who could've helped out in a playoff run, in the last year of a contract for: a guy who isn't going to be back next year anyways, and a guy who has not proven he should have been drafted where he was, and hasn't really done much in a Cavs uni? What wasn't to like? disclaimer: didn't looked up Kittles' contract, just going off memory, so if I'm wrong on that, this post is irrelevant. Regardless, this is irrelevant anyways, since he is a Clipper.
