05's Starting Lineup

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  1. Miami's Finest

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting the MDE:</div><div class="quote_post">That statment could mean nothing if the reports that his family is attached to Southern Cal are true. Wasn't he quoted as telling a reporter that he and his family love it in LA? I also think his decision hinges a bit on his family and what they want. If the kids and wife like it there in Cali, then they probably aren't gonna want to move yet AGAIN.</div>

    MDE,
    All I'm saying is, if winning a championship before retiring his is main reason to continue playing (btw, his main focus is deciding whether he will play or not), Lakers are not the best choice.

    As for his family's choice, I can't speak for L.A. or San Antonio since I've never been to either, but I can speak for Miami and South Beach, and it is a great place to live and I'm sure they wouldn't have a hard time getting used to it, maybe even liking it more than L.A. [​IMG]

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Lakerland:</div><div class="quote_post">Even though Malone wants a title really badly, I don't think he wants to risk his reputation and go to another team looking for a title. He already did that with Utah and I can tell he feels bad about leaving them. The people here in LA love him and his family loves LA. A title isn't the most important thing in life and he's already had a great career and lots of money so...why not stay in LA?</div>

    All this is good, but Malone said the only reason he went with the lakers was to win a title. If everything you say is true tho, then he has good reason to stay.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheNextJordan8:</div><div class="quote_post">This thread had nothing to do with wether karl malone will be goin to the lakers or heat if he goes to the lakers itll be a plus for us if he goes to miami they still arent going to win a champioship so its all good.</div>

    Lol this is funny, first you say this thread has nothing to do with malone's future but then you contribute to the discussion [​IMG] . This also isn't a 'can miami win a championship' thread but you posted your thoughts on that too.

    Btw
    C- Vlade Divac
    PF- Caron Butler
    SF- Lamar Odom
    SG- Kobe Bryant
    PG- Gary Payton
     
  2. Billa_Bong

    Billa_Bong JBB JustBBall Member

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    look if malone resigns, he will resign with the lakers a. they have the biggest chance of winning a championship b. have more depth and actually have a bench this year c. He will NOT sign with heat because frankly the heat will do nothing next years. They dont have a bench and also its not like in l.a. the 3 years shaq and kobe won championships where it was shaq and kobe he doesnt have any other super star plus no bench which means shaq and malone wud die out there.

    but i mean if you got

    my lineup i said above, its strong u get a very high paced team that can run the ball, i mean all those players can go hoop to hoop which i think cud lead you to a fast team that gets points off fast breaks and defense common if you had vlade and malone underneath both with ten plus years of experience holding off big men and then you got kobe and odom scoring points running the floor with payton the glove throwing out hte assists and steals.

    Thats one strong team and i think every player supports one another very well
     
  3. Miami's Finest

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">look if malone resigns, he will resign with the lakers a. they have the biggest chance of winning a championship b. have more depth and actually have a bench this year c. He will NOT sign with heat because frankly the heat will do nothing next years. They dont have a bench and also its not like in l.a. the 3 years shaq and kobe won championships where it was shaq and kobe he doesnt have any other super star plus no bench which means shaq and malone wud die out there.

    but i mean if you got

    my lineup i said above, its strong u get a very high paced team that can run the ball, i mean all those players can go hoop to hoop which i think cud lead you to a fast team that gets points off fast breaks and defense common if you had vlade and malone underneath both with ten plus years of experience holding off big men and then you got kobe and odom scoring points running the floor with payton the glove throwing out hte assists and steals.

    Thats one strong team and i think every player supports one another very well</div>

    I will only say that your first paragraph is purely your opinion, and you are entitled to that. I would argue back but I feel that I made my point as to why he won't return with the lakers and ill refer you to my point about lakers ruining his chance at winning a title. And I'm not the one saying he will sign with the heat, he's said hes having ongoing discussions with the heat and I made my points as to why he would want to go with the heat AS WELL AS the Spurs, the Lakers, or just retire.
     
  4. Mamba

    Mamba The King is Back Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I would like to see this:

    Vlade
    odom
    Caron
    Kobe
    Payton

    But I think this will be it:
    Vlade
    Grant
    Odom
    Kobe
    Payton
     
  5. Lakerland

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Billa_Bong:</div><div class="quote_post">look if malone resigns, he will resign with the lakers a. they have the biggest chance of winning a championship b. have more depth and actually have a bench this year c. He will NOT sign with heat because frankly the heat will do nothing next years. They dont have a bench and also its not like in l.a. the 3 years shaq and kobe won championships where it was shaq and kobe he doesnt have any other super star plus no bench which means shaq and malone wud die out there.
    </div>

    As much as I'd like to believe you, the Lakers don't have the best chance of winning a championship this year. Actually, they're pretty far from being the favorites. I'm not saying they won't, since there's a lot of other stuff that hasn't been factored in yet (team chemistry, coaching, defence, how Kobe will play, how Odom will play, how good Sasha will be....), but Kobe doesn't have another superstar either (Dwayne Wade is a rising superstar...). Lakers are more deep than the Heat but look at Sacramento. They were a deep run and gun team with a lot of good shooters and decent defense but they never beat the Lakers because Shaq dominated their big men. Kobe helped a lot but the difference was Shaq.

    I agree with you about Malone resigning with the Lakers but your reasons are a little off.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting heatfan83:</div><div class="quote_post">C- Vlade Divac
    PF- Caron Butler
    SF- Lamar Odom
    SG- Kobe Bryant
    PG- Gary Payton</div>

    I'm assuming you made a mistake there... right?


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Kobe 8 Ball:</div><div class="quote_post">I would like to see this:

    Vlade
    odom
    Caron
    Kobe
    Payton

    But I think this will be it:
    Vlade
    Grant
    Odom
    Kobe
    Payton</div>

    I feel the same way. I also want to see that starting lineup, but it'll probably end up being the 2nd. But either way we'll have a good sixth man off the bench in Butler or Grant, so I'm happy about that. We haven't had a solid bench player in a while.
     
  7. Miami's Finest

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm assuming you made a mistake there... right?
    </div>

    I don't like brian grant, thats why i prefer to put caron in.
     
  8. Miami's Finest

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Phreeze:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm assuming you made a mistake there... right?




    I feel the same way. I also want to see that starting lineup, but it'll probably end up being the 2nd. But either way we'll have a good sixth man off the bench in Butler or Grant, so I'm happy about that. We haven't had a solid bench player in a while.</div>
    sry didnt notice i put caron as pf lol

    switch him with odom
     
  9. Moo2K4

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    I think it should be something along the lines of this.

    PG: Payton
    SG: Kobe
    SF: Butler
    PF: Odom
    C: Vlade

    But, it will most likely be this.

    PG: Payton
    SG: Kobe
    SF: Odom
    PF: Grant
    C: Vlade

    I still would like to see them get both Odom and Butler in the lineup as I believe it gives us the best team possible. The only problem is the fact that, I don't know if Odom can play PF in the West. He has the height, standing at 6'10", but is he big enough. Probably not. I believe he'd create a lot of match up problems there offensively, but, he'd be a hinderance on the defensive end. And that will be why he'll likely start at SF and have Caron come off the bench as the 6th man.
     
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    I think he'll create more matchup problems if Odom plays SF. Butler would be the best 6th man that we've had in years.
     
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    I hope Malone comes back. Odom would be superior in the SF position.
     
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    Starting Lineup
    G- Gary Payton
    G- Kobe Bryant
    F- Caron Butler
    F- Lamar Odam
    C- Vlade Divac


    Bench
    G-Kareem Rush
    G- ?
    F- Brian Grant
    F- Slava
    ?- There rookie draft pick forget his name


    Wild Card
    Karl Malone
    Bryon Russel


    See the lakers could have a very deep roster if they resign malone. If they do that they could bring both butler and grant off the bench and start odam and malone in the front court with divac and gary payton and kobe in the back court that would be a very good starting lineup. IMO.

    Then they got to very good guys coming off the bench and they got rush and slava also coming off the bench, but besides that they dont have much except for there rookie draft pick can someone please tell me his name? Thats why I believe they need to resign bryon russel he is old, but they need someone to help play the back up guard spot since mike james is close to becoming a buck and the rockets are targeting almost any free agent guard there is not much in the market for the lakers a team already over the salary cap.

    I think that a good player like possibly a kenny anderson may slip into the lakers hands since he is being very over looked this off season. Then the lakers would have a very deep bench and overall a better starting lineup then they had last year with the exception of shaq though they got a decent replacement in divac. Though nothing can replace shaq they have done a very good job in keeping a good team.


    I see them surprising alot of people and making a decent bid at a finals appearence with this team quote me on this to. It is a very good team idk why people are saying they are gona suffer so much. They got a good coach and a overall better team they just need a good back up guard.
     
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    The name of the Laker rookie is Sasha Vujacic. I think we should give him a chance to be backup PG since everyone who's seen him play probably agrees that he has potential. The best thing about him is that he seems like one of those "no fear" type of player. Kinda like Mike Bibby, Manu Ginobli, or Tony Parker (who've all ripped up the Lakers in the past). I think Lakers need a backup C more than anything. Someone who's 7' or over.
     
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    Yeah, definately need a big man over 7 foot.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Starting Lineup
    G- Gary Payton
    G- Kobe Bryant
    F- Caron Butler
    F- Lamar Odam
    C- Vlade Divac


    Bench
    G-Kareem Rush
    G- ?
    F- Brian Grant
    F- Slava
    ?- There rookie draft pick forget his name


    Wild Card
    Karl Malone
    Bryon Russel

    </div>

    I also expect some significant improvement on Brian Cook and Luke Walton. The Lakers should be much more balanced this season...whether that is a good thing is yet to be seen
     
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    Luke Walton had flashes of great plays during the post season. Im sure we'll get to see more now that the roster is different.
     
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    Okay...if Malone comes back, it should look like this:

    PG - Payton/Vujacic
    SG - Kobe/Rush/Fox
    SF - Odom/Butler/George
    PF - Malone/Grant/Walton/Cook
    C - Divac/H. Grant/Medvedenko

    I really don't know when LA can squeeze more playing time for Walton and George...however, three of these guys will be on the IR...but to me, this team looks like it has more potential than last year's...
     
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    I hope fox retires.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting trenchteam:</div><div class="quote_post">I hope fox retires.</div>

    Yeah, isn't this Fox's last year on his contract?
     
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    fox should retire he seems to have lost it unless he makes a good impression next year
     

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