<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Hakeem's for sure. The dream shake was legendary and would leave the defender spinning. KG's footwork is good, but the dream shake is not a move that anyone can do. Jason Williams or Rafer Alston in fancy passing.</div> jason williams best forward thats out now in the clutch (SF or PF)
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Greater player never to win win a championship: Stockton or Barkley</div> stock. he was a better team player overall. very hard choice though. i have to add 2 more to the list, malone and ewing. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">best forward thats out now in the clutch (SF or PF)</div> sorry to say this KG2005, but this is a COMPARISION THREAD. better player, glen rice(peak) or mitch richmond(peak)
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">I wonder how he won a slam dunk competition without being able to pull off a proper dunk. </div> Look who's here to dispute me once again <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">better player, glen rice(peak) or mitch richmond(peak)</div> Good comparison. I would go with Richmond because he had defense while Rice didn't. Drew Gooden or Stromile Swift?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Look who's here to dispute me once again </div> I'll dispute blatantly ridiculous posts from anyone. It's not my fault you specialize in them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting elijahser:</div><div class="quote_post">better afro? big ben or moochie norris?</div> Big Ben. You could fit Moochie INSIDE Ben's afro, that's how much better it is. Two years from now, who'll be considered a better player: Kevin Garnett or LeBron James
I don't know but i think LBJ will be better cuz his talent will develop more and more next year but I think KG is leaving his prime now and will be good but not mvp good in 2 years
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">I'll dispute blatantly ridiculous posts from anyone. It's not my fault you specialize in them. </div> Explain to me how that comment was ridiculous. I would like to see your argument considering the majority would say Tracy is the better dunker than Kobe. Marc Jackson or Mark Blount?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Explain to me how that comment was ridiculous. I would like to see your argument considering the majority would say Tracy is the better dunker than Kobe. </div> You said Kobe couldn't pull of a proper dunk. Not sure what your definition of "proper dunk" is, but typically when a guy has won a slam dunk competition he's considered a pretty good dunker. Is T-Mac a better dunker than Kobe? Sure, he could be. Though I'm not sure how you could know that the majority think he is, unless there was a poll. Anyways, that wasn't the ridiculous part.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post">You said Kobe couldn't pull of a proper dunk. Not sure what your definition of "proper dunk" is, but typically when a guy has won a slam dunk competition he's considered a pretty good dunker. Is T-Mac a better dunker than Kobe? Sure, he could be. Though I'm not sure how you could know that the majority think he is, unless there was a poll. Anyways, that wasn't the ridiculous part.</div> Kobe winning the slam dunk contest means jack. That's probably the cheapest dunk contest win ever. That dunk contest probably had the worst set of contestants. We're talking Ray Allen and some other scrubs. You don't ultimately win the dunk contest by doing a through-the-legs dunk. Any athlete who is Kobe's height can do that. Like show some distinctiveness, please. What I mean by "proper" is that he can't do a dunk with finesse and control. Whenever he does a dunk, he literally lands on his ass. Remember Kobe doing a layup instead of a dunk on an open breakaway in last year's allstar game? That proves that this guy is priceless when it comes to dunking. Look at Tracy. The guy does alleyoops to himself and slams it down with authority, and he actually lands on both feet prior to a dunk. I'm suspecting that you're a Kobe fan as it is impossible to argue about Kobe with Kobe fans because no matter how bad you own them in the argument, they're still going to declare that Kobe is the best.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Kobe winning the slam dunk contest means jack. That's probably the cheapest dunk contest win ever. That dunk contest probably had the worst set of contestants. We're talking Ray Allen and some other scrubs. You don't ultimately win the dunk contest by doing a through-the-legs dunk. Any athlete who is Kobe's height can do that. Like show some distinctiveness, please. What I mean by "proper" is that he can't do a dunk with finesse and control. Whenever he does a dunk, he literally lands on his ass. Remember Kobe doing a layup instead of a dunk on an open breakaway in last year's allstar game? That proves that this guy is priceless when it comes to dunking. Look at Tracy. The guy does alleyoops to himself and slams it down with authority, and he actually lands on both feet prior to a dunk. I'm suspecting that you're a Kobe fan as it is impossible to argue about Kobe with Kobe fans because no matter how bad you own them in the argument, they're still going to declare that Kobe is the best.</div> Same goes for Vince fans, who will be quick to rate him over Jordan but, about Kobe...I have plenty of video clips that show him slamming tomahawks, under-the-rim slams from one side of the paint to the other, and even a few dunks on McGrady, Duncan, Ming, and Garnett that are just nasty. It's one thing to be in the dunk contest...and another thing to do these dunks in the game. Kobe was 17 or 18 when he won the dunk contest...he had less power and jumping ability. Today is a different story. Back to topic...you said Blount or Jackson? I say Blount. Your Dream Team coach...Larry Brown, Greg Popovich, or Phil Jackson?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post"> What I mean by "proper" is that he can't do a dunk with finesse and control. Whenever he does a dunk, he literally lands on his ass. Remember Kobe doing a layup instead of a dunk on an open breakaway in last year's allstar game? That proves that this guy is priceless when it comes to dunking. Look at Tracy. The guy does alleyoops to himself and slams it down with authority, and he actually lands on both feet prior to a dunk. I'm suspecting that you're a Kobe fan as it is impossible to argue about Kobe with Kobe fans because no matter how bad you own them in the argument, they're still going to declare that Kobe is the best.</div> Ok. You have an *interesting* perspective on what a proper dunk entails, but ok. Anyways, I'm suspecting you were just exaggerating when you said Kobe can't do a proper dunk to spice up your answer. For instace, this sentence: "Whenever he does a dunk, he literally lands on his ass." That's obviously not true, so I don't know how I can take anything you say about Kobe's dunking seriously. And sure, I'm a Kobe fan. He's a great player. I've seen him play much more than T-Mac, since my team is in the West and Laker games are on national televized more often. So, I can't offer any useful opinions on who's the better dunker of the two. That'll change next year, of course (I'm in Houston).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post"> Back to topic...you said Blount or Jackson? I say Blount. Your Dream Team coach...Larry Brown, Greg Popovich, or Phil Jackson?</div> Phil Jackson. I can't think of another coach who works better with superstar egos. Better fans: Laker fans or Knick fans.
^ When the lakers were still winning championships i would agree with you. The Laker players were no longer buying into his charming system anymore. The egos took their toll in the last two years when they didn't win a championship, visibly last year's Finals vs. Detroit. Knicks fans. They don't treat their teams and players like prima donnas, if they play bad they're gonna give it to them. This really shows that they're really disappointed with stinker types such as lack of efforts to win games. Laker fans are great but Knicks' are still a notch better IMO. Dancers most likely to "take you away" from the game: Laker girls or Heat girls
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Same goes for Vince fans, who will be quick to rate him over Jordan </div> ARE YOU KIDDING ME? So basically, you're saying that it's ludicrous/dumb/etc. to rate Carter over Jordan in dunking? That's hilarious dude. Vince is the better dunker than Jordan, and it doesn't take biasness from a VC fan to prove it like Kobe compared to Tracy in dunking. Laker girls. Whenever they dance, they're asking for it. Clyde or Kobe?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">ARE YOU KIDDING ME? So basically, you're saying that it's ludicrous/dumb/etc. to rate Carter over Jordan in dunking? That's hilarious dude. Vince is the better dunker than Jordan, and it doesn't take biasness from a VC fan to prove it like Kobe compared to Tracy in dunking. </div> I know two guys (one at my college) that can go through every dunk that Vince did in the 2000 dunk contest and do them exactly like he does. Also, I've got many clips of high school kids doing the same dunks. Carter was about power...Jordan is about flair.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">ARE YOU KIDDING ME? So basically, you're saying that it's ludicrous/dumb/etc. to rate Carter over Jordan in dunking? That's hilarious dude. Vince is the better dunker than Jordan, and it doesn't take biasness from a VC fan to prove it like Kobe compared to Tracy in dunking. </div> WHAT!!! YOUR AN IDIOT...Jordan is the best dunker of all timeand the best player of all time...i probably wouldnt put Vince in the top 5...Jordan did dunks over people in games that Vince couldnt do in a dunk contest...look every dunk vince did other people can do...i know a 6'2 guy who did the 360 windmill and also the off the bounce through the legs...Jordan put up a ridiculous amount of dunks his first 5 years...nobody could stop him at all... Also in dunking T-Mac is better than Vince and Kobe is not but kobe still has tons of amazing dunks...the 360 over some guy in denver...the huge one hander on Yao Ming...Vince had like one year of good dunks in games and I admit he was spectacular for that year and that dunk contest but Jordan put up that kinda stuff for 15 years!!! and Jordans dunk contest performances were some of the best ever and cannot be duplicated...im tired of you chungster
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hendrix:</div><div class="quote_post">WHAT!!! YOUR AN IDIOT...Jordan is the best dunker of all timeand the best player of all time...i probably wouldnt put Vince in the top 5...Jordan did dunks over people in games that Vince couldnt do in a dunk contest...look every dunk vince did other people can do...i know a 6'2 guy who did the 360 windmill and also the off the bounce through the legs...Jordan put up a ridiculous amount of dunks his first 5 years...nobody could stop him at all... Also in dunking T-Mac is better than Vince and Kobe is not but kobe still has tons of amazing dunks...the 360 over some guy in denver...the huge one hander on Yao Ming...Vince had like one year of good dunks in games and I admit he was spectacular for that year and that dunk contest but Jordan put up that kinda stuff for 15 years!!! and Jordans dunk contest performances were some of the best ever and cannot be duplicated...im tired of you chungster</div> He talks like his opinion is the only unbiased one, yet both Carter and T-Mac played for Toronto. And I'm biased because I think Kobe is a good dunker (didn't even say he was better than T-Mac). LOL.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Hendrix:</div><div class="quote_post">WHAT!!! YOUR AN IDIOT...Jordan is the best dunker of all timeand the best player of all time...i probably wouldnt put Vince in the top 5...Jordan did dunks over people in games that Vince couldnt do in a dunk contest...look every dunk vince did other people can do...i know a 6'2 guy who did the 360 windmill and also the off the bounce through the legs...Jordan put up a ridiculous amount of dunks his first 5 years...nobody could stop him at all... Also in dunking T-Mac is better than Vince and Kobe is not but kobe still has tons of amazing dunks...the 360 over some guy in denver...the huge one hander on Yao Ming...Vince had like one year of good dunks in games and I admit he was spectacular for that year and that dunk contest but Jordan put up that kinda stuff for 15 years!!! and Jordans dunk contest performances were some of the best ever and cannot be duplicated...im tired of you chungster</div> WOW, post of the century. Wait, who's the idiot?
geez is this a comaprision thread or wad? i say clyde, he was a HOFer and kobe hasnt proved he could do it all yet. kenyon martin or chris webber?
