Yao is also overrated. He has never averaged a double double and hes considered the second best center in the league. Hes also 7'5. Dont give me this crap where its too young. He was 22 when he entered the league also. Shaq was 20. Yao will NEVER be close to the player that Shaq was. Yao will never get a MVP award. Yao will never take a team to a championship. Shaq was younger and better than Yao when they both first came into the league.
I would say rasheed wallace or Eric dampier. Eric dampier just plains sucks. ONe season doesnt make you good at of a sudden. the only reason he had a good year was because he had a contraact year. and the reason why i said rasheed wallace is because to tel lyou the truth he really didnt do much to help the pistsons except missing shots. hes way overated on defense and his offenes isnt near as good as it was before
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Netsfan501:</div><div class="quote_post">and the reason why i said rasheed wallace is because to tel lyou the truth he really didnt do much to help the pistsons except missing shots. hes way overated on defense and his offenes isnt near as good as it was before</div> Is this a joke? he didn't do much? overrated on defense? he was only the missing piece to winning a championship, I guess to fans who have never seen a championship, that means nothing to you.
i dunno what u guys r smoking.... somebody said KG was overrated? Rasheed Wallace? if anything, rasheed is underrated He can give a 25, 11 and 4 nite i think its great that he adjusted to the team concept, calmed his game down and was the missing peice to a championship Overrated= Peja Stoavakic (i dont even know how to spell his damn last name) anyways, NO defence, FREEZES in the playoffs and misses the majority of his shots when it really counts, and only gets the shots because his teammates are good at opening up the lane and all he has to do is spot up.... you put an above average defender on him, he cant do jack
agree, peja.. WAY OVERRATED.. even in video games.. he can slash in and dunk.. lol wtf bull is that.. garnett is overrated.. and i dont really wanna argue so ill leave it at that
I'd say Divac has been slightly overated the past few seasons when he was with the Kings.But i still liked him,but it's an opinon!
Vince Carter is by far the most overrated player in the NBA. I really am surprised that nobody said his name yet. It is not even close. He is supposedly the best player on the Raptors, and the Raptors play better when he is injured. I truely believe if he did not have that dunk contenst, not as many people will be talking about him. What besides the dunk contest has he won? Umm...nothing. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting allstar44:</div><div class="quote_post">garnett is overrated.. and i dont really wanna argue so ill leave it at that</div> You don't want to argue because you know that statement is totally bogus. He is only getting 24.2 PPG (2nd), 13.9 RPG (1st), and 5.0 APG (23rd).
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting s@bz:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter is by far the most overrated player in the NBA. I really am surprised that nobody said his name yet. It is not even close. He is supposedly the best player on the Raptors, and the Raptors play better when he is injured. I truely believe if he did not have that dunk contenst, not as many people will be talking about him. What besides the dunk contest has he won? Umm...nothing. </div> "Supposedly" the best player on the Raptors? The Raptors have never played better without him except for 11 friggin games in the 2001-2002 season. Vince has missed 77 games in his career, so how many games has the Raptors played worse without him? Vince generates the offense and his leadership is what makes the Raptors a better team. Now you're talking about the awards huh. Besides the dunk contest, he won Rookie Of The Year Award, an Olympic Gold Medal and that's it. According to your logic, Kobe is overrated because he hasn't won nothing but an Allstar MVP award which means nothing, and that same old dunk contest award which he shouldn't of won considering he did horrible dunks. Come on now. His best dunk was the through the legs dunk. Everyone says he's sucks as a defender because they obviously haven't watched a single Raptor game. Rarely do you see anyone scoring on Vince. He's literally a GREAT defender, believe it or not. You could of said he was overrated 3 years ago, but as of now, he's amongst the top underrated players in the NBA. Your logic is totally hilarious and flawed.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">"Vince generates the offense and his leadership is what makes the Raptors a better team.</div> Leadership! Ha. That is why this season he is whining like a biatch to ownership becuase he wasnt talked to about the coaching decision. Whining like a little girl is really showing leadership. Plus, I didn't notice this before, but how can you say Stojokavic is overrated. He is only the second or third best pure shooter in the NBA. (Reggie Miller and Ray Allen
Whoever thinks KG is overrated needs their dome checked out... I guess the 120+ people who gave him 1st place MVP votes didn't know what they were voting for... Get real guys, if you dislike a player, just say so, don't make ridiculous comments like "he's overrated." He's reigning MVP for a reason, and its NOT cuz he's overrated.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post"> Everyone says he's sucks as a defender because they obviously haven't watched a single Raptor game. Rarely do you see anyone scoring on Vince. He's literally a GREAT defender, believe it or not. You could of said he was overrated 3 years ago, but as of now, he's amongst the top underrated players in the NBA.</div> let's not go that far...Vince is in no way a "great" defender. He has the talent and atleticism to be one but actually applying that effort on defense is a problem for him. He is an above average defender at best and a lot of times he gets beat off the dribble which maked the defense collapse. When Alvin was healthy, why is it that he was the one always guarding the other team's best perimeter defender if Vince was such a great defender? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting s@bz:</div><div class="quote_post">Vince Carter is by far the most overrated player in the NBA. I really am surprised that nobody said his name yet. It is not even close. He is supposedly the best player on the Raptors, and the Raptors play better when he is injured. I truely believe if he did not have that dunk contenst, not as many people will be talking about him. What besides the dunk contest has he won? Umm...nothing. You don't want to argue because you know that statement is totally bogus. He is only getting 24.2 PPG (2nd), 13.9 RPG (1st), and 5.0 APG (23rd).</div> nothing? 00-01: 27.6 PPG 5.5 RPG 3.9 APG .460 FG% .408 3P% please give me a list of players in the league who are realistically capable of putting up those kind of numbers for a season. There aren't many <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AllNet:</div><div class="quote_post">You are mistaking not living up to ecpections to actually being overrated. Rasheed is still a very good power forward and If he was overrated he would not of been the missing piece to a championship. He has played a difference role in Detroit and It has worked. Infact Rasheed is far more underrated than he is overrated. His defensive game is terrific, many people never notice what he can do on the defensive end. He is still a good scorer and is a guy who can take over on both ends of the floor. He does things that never show up on the boxscore. Not many players are close to Duncan and Garnett but in terms of head to head match-ups. Rasheed can go toe to toe with TD and KG which he has done in the past. I can't believe you would think Rasheed could care less If he was playing basketball. Why else would he get techinals and mouth off to the refs? because he is so emotional and wants to win so badly. You only have to actually watch him play consistantly to see how badly he loves to win and how dissapointed he gets when his team loses.</div> You call him getting all those technicals as having passion? I call it not being able to control yourself and being foolish. He knows he is hurting his team by getting ejected. How is he helping his team at all by not having him on the floor? If he was any kind of a leader or team player, he would sacrifice himself for the team and losing your temper is not the way to do that. No way is he underrated. He's still considered to be one of the best power forwards in the league. A statement that I think is untrue but nonetheless that is how he is seen as. You mention that he was the missing piece, but how many players in the league couldn't have filled that role? The Pistons were already a very good team and title contenders because of their already stifling defense without him there. Just because he filled a role in a championship team doesn't mean that he is as valuable as some might think. Rip, B. Wallace and Billups were much more responsible for them winning the championship than Rasheed was. Back when he was with the Blazers, he was the leader on a very, very good team. But where did he take them to? He was incapable of leading a team then as he is now. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post"> Rasheed Wallace? if anything, rasheed is underrated He can give a 25, 11 and 4 nite i think its great that he adjusted to the team concept, calmed his game down and was the missing peice to a championship </div> he is capable of getting 25 11 4 on a good night (as many players are) but no way can he average that for a season. His career average is 16 and 6.7. If you think can average those types of numbers for a season, you are crazy.
tony parker, did you see him in the los angeles/spurs playoff games 1st 2 he did good, last 4 he did shit. he choked on free throws everything i mean ya he did good in the season but championships are won in playoffs and he choked
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting s@bz:</div><div class="quote_post">Leadership! Ha. That is why this season he is whining like a biatch to ownership becuase he wasnt talked to about the coaching decision. Whining like a little girl is really showing leadership. </div> What does that have to do with his leadership on the court? Exactly, you just proved that you never watched a single game of Vince in your life since you're just basing it off the court. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Plus, I didn't notice this before, but how can you say Stojokavic is overrated. He is only the second or third best pure shooter in the NBA. (Reggie Miller and Ray Allen</div> You know what's funny? You questioning what I already explained.
Get off of Vince's nuts. You're saying how people don't watch Raptor games but have you watched that many Kings games? Peja was getting some serious MVP consideration early in the season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">What does that have to do with his leadership on the court?:</div> By doing that, he is showing up his own teammates, which will eventually lead to on the court issues. Nobody else got asked about their opinion about a new coach hiring, but Vince Carter wants to be included? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post"> You know what's funny? You questioning what I already explained. </div> You questioned me on something I explained, and I answered. Why can't you do the same for me? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">Peja Stojakovic. He wouldn't be able to shoot on a crap team if it meant his life. The Kings have a system that allows him to constantly get open shots. Rarely do you see someone contesting his shot, </div> Peja kept the Kings alive when Webber was out early, yes they have other good players, but he definitly stepped up when Webber was out. And also, how does being able to knock down open looks make you overrated? Compared to previous years, Peja did drive to the hoops more, that means he is working on other aspects of his game.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">"Supposedly" the best player on the Raptors? The Raptors have never played better without him except for 11 friggin games in the 2001-2002 season. Vince has missed 77 games in his career, so how many games has the Raptors played worse without him? Vince generates the offense and his leadership is what makes the Raptors a better team. Now you're talking about the awards huh. Besides the dunk contest, he won Rookie Of The Year Award, an Olympic Gold Medal and that's it. According to your logic, Kobe is overrated because he hasn't won nothing but an Allstar MVP award which means nothing, and that same old dunk contest award which he shouldn't of won considering he did horrible dunks. Come on now. His best dunk was the through the legs dunk. Everyone says he's sucks as a defender because they obviously haven't watched a single Raptor game. Rarely do you see anyone scoring on Vince. He's literally a GREAT defender, believe it or not. You could of said he was overrated 3 years ago, but as of now, he's amongst the top underrated players in the NBA. Your logic is totally hilarious and flawed.</div> Thank You Chungster, I been tryin to tell everyone how underrated he was! If he was on the lakers everyone would say vince carter is the best player in the world!......Which leads me to say KOBE BRYANT, Steve FRANCIS and TRACY MCGRADY are way too overratted...ppl say kobe is da best in the league....if taychaun prince can guard him anymone can! And t-mac he's overrated because he da scoring champ...I think they should make a rule where u cant average more points than your WINS!!!!!!!!!Steve Francis just suks he's a great player but he averages 15 ppg, and i never seen him hit a clutch shot....ive jimmy jackson...not him....he never seems to take over games..defenses are not meant on stopping him...he's not A THREAT.
Sorry VC fans, but I'm going with Vince too. He was ROY, and he won a Slam Dunk contest...but the man hasn't done much since. His Slam Dunk performance was the best I've ever seen...but just because he won, it doesn't make him great. Come on...Brent Barry won it. Desmond Mason won. Dee Brown. JR Rider. These guys aren't great players...good...but not great. Don't get me wrong...I'm not putting him in the same category as them, but Vince could'nt spell out consistency on a piece of paper...and you can put him on a team with Yao and McGrady, and he wouldn't be the top player from there. That's where his All-Star votes catch up to them...he's like a Highlight Reel, and he gets those votes for his energy in games...but he's nowhere near the best clutch player, the best shooter, or even overall player in the NBA right now...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting kevinduncan_21:</div><div class="quote_post">Thank You Chungster, I been tryin to tell everyone how underrated he was! If he was on the lakers everyone would say vince carter is the best player in the world!......Which leads me to say KOBE BRYANT, Steve FRANCIS and TRACY MCGRADY are way too overratted...ppl say kobe is da best in the league....if taychaun prince can guard him anymone can! And t-mac he's overrated because he da scoring champ...I think they should make a rule where u cant average more points than your WINS!!!!!!!!!Steve Francis just suks he's a great player but he averages 15 ppg, and i never seen him hit a clutch shot....ive jimmy jackson...not him....he never seems to take over games..defenses are not meant on stopping him...he's not A THREAT.</div> lol im sure laker fans wouldnt be saying hes the best in the world. Kobe is a tiny bit overated. Steve Francis is overrated. T-Mac IMO isnt overrated people see him as he is. IF you call Kobe overrated then Vince is SOOO OVERRateed. Vince is overrated btw. lol. And wtf does jimmy jackson have anything to do with this? lol tayshaun is actually a good defender if you ever watched him. Thoses long arms of his are deadly. Steve Francis actually averages 16.6 this past year and 19.3 for his career. Not as good as Vince but hey its good. As soon as I saw your favorite player I said no wonder your on his nutz. BIAS VC fanboy.
i wanna ask u one question, If vince can't dunk anymore or is not as good as other superstars, why did he average 23ppg 6 rpg 5apg...if vince carter was on that laker team last year...they would have won the championship! VC is so unselfish that i mistake him for a point guard. the reason he you ppl still reconize him still as a dunker and not a player... is because u dont watch raptor games...there is something called highlights u watch..vc is the overall clutch player in the league! Ppl say kobe is more clutch because of a couple of buzzer beaters. well guess wat, everytime vince gets the ball in the clutch he gets tripled because no ones on his team...Kobe gets single-coverage thats y he he shoots and being clutch doesnt only mean hitting the bucket at the end it also means clutch defensive stops,steals,blocks, and passes ( BTW Bill Russell, a defesnive player, was one of the top clutch player in nba history.Vince Carter does all of that cuz at the end of games they triple-team him, so he gets others on his team open...if u saw the cavaliers against the raptors on TNT ,u noe wat im talkin about! So u shouldnt even question Vince Carter's clutch performance. About his shooting-VC shot 40 from 3 and 44 from field- Kobe 32 from 3 and 38 from field!
Dude, this last season, Carter shot 41% from the field, and 38% from the three...where are you getting your stats from? Kobe shot 44% from the field, and 33% from three. Also, if you want to bring stats into this... Carter has a huge vertical, correct? You can say he can pull down boards over Kobe...so why does Kobe pull down 5.5 rebounds a game, while Carter only pulled down 4.8? What about passing? Carter's assists are lower, also...and this is the same guy who should be drawing "triple teams" like you say...and passing out to wide-open players. It's not that way...when he gets doubled, or defended really well, he will take it in anyways. Kobe has hardly ANY shooters on his team...especially this year and in the playoffs...so his only option is the aging Shaq. Also considering the stress Kobe had to absorb this last season...he still came out and put aside everything to give the team 110%...but Carter doesn't always do that, does he? If you do actually watch the Raptor games, you'd know what I'm talking about...because the only three teams I watch are the Lakers, Raptors and Cavaliers...here recently anyways...because I have NBA TV. I really think that Carter needs to turn it up a bit, and stop trying to feed off of hype and how well he can jump...because his whole persona right now is his dunking ability. He's doing well, but the Raptors aren't winning, and he definitely isn't outperforming Bryant...and by the way, the word "clutch" isn't drawing a "triple team" as you claim, and then passing it out to a guy to shoot it...I could do that if I was in the NBA. How about a three pointer on a smothering Ruben Patterson? Or another one, fading back, catch and shoot...on two defenders? How about one on Rip Hamilton in the Finals? What about a half-court shot, or a 20-footer on the Hornets? Haha...Vince isn't close to clutch compared to Kobe...and he's not even close to being a great player.
