sucks how the good guys always have the bad times. I'm hoping Ghill makes a return, he's a great bloke and an awesome player. an all time favourite!
Playing without pain? Haven't we heard this before? I think that the real test will be when he has to play 30 mpg on the floor every night. That's where he always falls apart. He says this before every comeback and that is why no one is really getting too excited about this. For those of you that are hoping for Grant Hill to return to superstar status, don't hold your breath.
i hope everything goes well with hill. i htink the magic are stacked at sf so hopefully they'll give him limited minutes so he can work his way back in the game and not hurt himself by trying to do too much too soon. Which i thought he was doing last year because he was just like darting form side of the court to side. I was like man this is what the magic were missing huh. I think that had to do with him being excited as did the magic frnachise need a solid sf last year.
There is nothing Grant Hill can say that will excite me about his potential return. At this point nothing but results will impress me.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">There is nothing Grant Hill can say that will excite me about his potential return. At this point nothing but results will impress me.</div> Can't argue with that.
Grant Hill has screws holding his ankle together, and his career is most likely over. But as always, it's better to give him the benefit of the doubt - however he'll never be the same. Until he can play an entire season without pain, I don't buy it. Besides, his summer workouts consist of golf and swimming, real tough. It wouldn't have been a bad idea to have him play in Summer League, just to brush off the dust. Oh wait, he's too fragile and Orlando wouldn't want to risk an injury.
It's not he's too fragile. They just don't want to rush him. They made that mistake 3 times. They finally learned.LOL
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">I'm not saying I want him to get hurt because it's his contract year. I'm saying it's awful that he had to go through what he did, but he could've suggested some kind of solution to the Magic organization when he saw that they were getting beat badly, with him sitting on the bench and eating up the salary. Guys do things for their teams...Garnett took a paycut...things like that. Some guys don't. Hill was so hurt that he played 4 games his first year with the Magic...but then 14 the next season, and 29 last season. If he was so concerned, and if he was smart enough, he would make sure his health was at 100% before he even stepped back out on the court. Instead, he has toyed with the team, and gave them reason to believe that he "could make it back" in due time. Well, now is the time, but it's just pretty ironic that he does this right before he's got a chance to make more money. Dampier played like an average center until last year, where suddenly he had a breakout season...why? Because of the money.</div> That's so wrong to say. Don't be too harsh man, he went through a lot. As much as his ankle hurts, I'm sure his heart was hurt too cuz he couldn't play ball which was his dream. Money? Come on, this guy is loaded already. And even if he's after money, what does that have anything to do with you? Did you pay him a dime? If someone is gonna bash, that's gotta be someone from Magic organization. Not you.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">I wish people would read closer...I never said his injuries were fake. I said that he was probably healed up last year, to where he could play more than the 29 games he did, but he was concerned that his value would drastically decrease after this upcoming season. This gave him a HUGE reason to only play the limited minutes, and the few games, and then to make the impact when he CAN, when he knows he's had a year off and everyone is watching him. He was never 100%, obviously, but alot of guys that do get hurt play hurt. Grant may have been hurt badly his first two years with the Magic, but I believe he slowly healed, and was nearly 100% last year...it just wasn't shown because he was unsure of how his future contract would play out, and unsure of how good his game would be.</div> LOL what's with this guy. How would you know all this? Why are u bashing on Grant Hill? You wouldn't want anyone bashing Kobe if he doesn't get acquitted right? Hill is just trying to play some ball man, leave him alone.
WadeDynasty, if you would've read further into the thread, you would've came across the post where I stated: none of us really know whether or not he was keeping the Magic's hopes up for the money, or whether he really wanted to keep playing for them. He's loaded with money already, but so are the other players in the league...Shaq has more money than he knows what to do with, but he sure wouldn't take a paycut if his team's future depended on it. But...all you Heat fans think he's such a nice guy. Same with Grant. He could be the most sincere guy in the league...but nobody really knows what's going on in his head. Once again, I'm not saying he was faking the injury. I'm just suggesting that it IS possible that he could've played last year, but thought it over because if in fact he did play poorly, it could damage his value when he does reach his player option. It's an assumption, just like everyone assuming that he's playing without pain. Who really knows.
How many times have we heard this? I'm not getting my hopes up, but if he comes back and gets 12 4 4 in 60 games, I would be ecstatic. We would definetely be a team that is looking like they will get into the playoffs. Grant Hill is a classy guy, I think no matter what he will take a paycut for us this offseason. Even if he's back to his normal self. (Which I really doubt) He's "stolen" way too much of our money to not do that for us. I don't think he could have played last year and I am extremely happy that he didn't. There was no point of him playing last season. We were out of the playoffs picture and we didn't want him to have to have 1 more surgery and miss part of this season. So we let him rest and continue to get his ankle in good shape.
reply to the beutiful <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">Grant Hill has screws holding his ankle together, and his career is most likely over. But as always, it's better to give him the benefit of the doubt - however he'll never be the same. Until he can play an entire season without pain, I don't buy it. Besides, his summer workouts consist of golf and swimming, real tough. It wouldn't have been a bad idea to have him play in Summer League, just to brush off the dust. Oh wait, he's too fragile and Orlando wouldn't want to risk an injury.</div>well hey big z over ther in Cleveland and his new teamate in Eric snow both play with screws in there feet so maybe hill can do it too. I wish him the best for the franchise sake and for crazy towns sake because hes been rocking that sig for a while.
We've heard this every single offseason. I'm an optimist at heart, but this is too much. Like Ice said, with those screws, and with the kind of injury Grant Hill had, it is very unlikely that he will be back in top form(if any at all). It hurts too much to get your hopes up about a guy like Hill coming back, only to see them smashed when he goes on the IL.
Realdealbneal, I understand what you are saying and I only ask to pay some respect to him and not involve money thing. A player like Grant Hill is dying to stand on the court again and stating that he's after money is just too harsh. If his value should decrease, it has decreased a long time ago. We all know that he's not gonna get the same contract even if he plays like he used to.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Ice:</div><div class="quote_post">Grant Hill has screws holding his ankle together, and his career is most likely over. But as always, it's better to give him the benefit of the doubt - however he'll never be the same. Until he can play an entire season without pain, I don't buy it. Besides, his summer workouts consist of golf and swimming, real tough. It wouldn't have been a bad idea to have him play in Summer League, just to brush off the dust. Oh wait, he's too fragile and Orlando wouldn't want to risk an injury.</div> I have to agree with that. Grant Hill is just about done. It would be amazing for him to come back after all those surgerys and play like he did with Detroit. I guess its a personal goal to comeback, but I would just like to see the Magic say, ya know. You havn't played a full season in all the games combined. You took up a huge amount of cap space, I think its best you opt out and just let us move on. If he plays solid this year, I don't know. I just don't see him improving. Just Declining.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting ZeroToOne50182:</div><div class="quote_post">I have to agree with that. Grant Hill is just about done. It would be amazing for him to come back after all those surgerys and play like he did with Detroit. I guess its a personal goal to comeback, but I would just like to see the Magic say, ya know. You havn't played a full season in all the games combined. You took up a huge amount of cap space, I think its best you opt out and just let us move on. If he plays solid this year, I don't know. I just don't see him improving. Just Declining.</div> i think having grant on the line-up is like adding an extra 12-15 ppg on your team, at least. although the magic organization seems to really trust in his skills, i don't expect him to be THE player in orlando. he can be a role player, at least, like what he did for t-mac in those few games they played together. i remember one broadcaster saying grant hill never really liked being the star, he prefers playing support. i'm not really sure about that, but it looks to me like he'll be doing that this season. and i agree on the part that he's being paid a lot of money, but that's a risk that the organization takes. i heard he was injured before they took him from detroit; i don't really know the story. I know he'll be posting respectable numbers, and considering the depth of the roster and the experience and leadership he can add, he's valuable. I just don't see him posting multiple triple doubles again anytime soon, which is a shame. One thing i'm sure of this season: he'll get an interesting, at the least, reception on his first game at the palace..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pigpen:</div><div class="quote_post"> i heard he was injured before they took him from detroit; i don't really know the story. </div> We picked him up (Hill) because he was by far the best free agent that year, beside Duncan (who we worked on getting heavily). His ankle was broken in the playoffs, and we 'stole' him from Detroit (for some of their current champion squad). It became soon apparent that his injury was much, much worse than anyone had imagined. We spent pretty much the same contracts for Hill and TMac, and had great hopes of having a versatile, lethal combo with a decent supporting cast. Yada yada yada, now no TMac blah blah. Let's hope the ultra-versatile, ultra-court intelligent Hill of old can come back this year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting XOver:</div><div class="quote_post">We picked him up (Hill) because he was by far the best free agent that year, beside Duncan (who we worked on getting heavily). His ankle was broken in the playoffs, and we 'stole' him from Detroit (for some of their current champion squad). It became soon apparent that his injury was much, much worse than anyone had imagined. We spent pretty much the same contracts for Hill and TMac, and had great hopes of having a versatile, lethal combo with a decent supporting cast. Yada yada yada, now no TMac blah blah. Let's hope the ultra-versatile, ultra-court intelligent Hill of old can come back this year.</div> I really think he will come back this year, and post respectable numbers. He did that in those few games he played with T-Mac. the organization really trusts him, so he may have something in store for us this season. comeback player of the year, maybe? anything to help the magic.
