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  1. Smoke

    Smoke JBB JustBBall Member

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    If atl was to aquire Dampier.

    would you all be down for a sign and trade that would involve sending dampier to pheonix for Joe Johnson
     
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    Can't happen. If it's not a sign and trade with the Warriors, its not going to happen. If Dampier was to get sign by any team, he could not be dealt until December 15th. Plus this would make no sense at all for the Suns. They would acquire another swigman to go with Childress, Smith, Diaw and Harrington.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">If atl was to aquire Dampier.

    would you all be down for a sign and trade that would involve sending dampier to pheonix for Joe Johnson</div>

    No Sir! Damp is a good Center no doubt he will give you maybe 10-15 points and over 10 boards a night, but at this time JJ's potential is limitless. He could turn into a real player. He is big for his position, is a great one on one defender and also plays good team defense, he has a nice jumper, he has dribbles, he can score in the clutch (I'm not so sure od what the stats are but in many games last season in the fourth he carried our team). He is useful in many other ways as well. What I am saying is I would not trade Johnson because he could be a star. After Marbury was traded last year he averaged like 19.5 5 and 5, which tells me he will be a great player (my assumption). If I was Bryan Colangelo I would'nt trade anybody, I would just pick up Joe P. from Atlanta. He is a decent center who can start, rebound a little, run the break, and block some shots. Cause there is no major threat in the west at the 5 anymore. You can be average at that position like 3/4ths of the west and be fine. That's just my humble opinion.
     
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    id been down
     
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    Well the Suns need a C and I dont think trading Shawn Maion will be the answer so thee odd man out is JJ even though he is starting to emerge the Suns need a C a lot more then they need JJ IMO.
     
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    It wouldn't make sense for the hawks, plus it doesn't work cap wise. Damp will get his payday, while JJ is still on his rookie contract.
     
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    I as a Hawks and Suns fan wouldnt do it from any point of view.

    Hawks view: There overloaded at the 2/3 spots with: Tony Delk, Al Harrington, Boris Diaw, Josh Smith, Josh Childress, Donta Smith and possibly Bobby Sura. + Dampier would bring a much needed center to this team, they have Antoine Walker but he is more of a 3/4 player so there not going to play him at center.

    Suns view: JJ is a developing star, his potential is limitless like some one already stated and also Dampier is 30 years old and doesnt deserve the kind of money he's getting, a few years down the road he won't be much use with Cabarkapa, Lampe developing.
     
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    reaction thoughts running through my head.

    I mean i understand Joe is developing so well with the suns is why i think he could really help the hawks orginization.

    I mean this kid has so much potential its justs crazy.

    I guess my real question is why did the suns sign quentin with such a good guy in joe and i also wnder is joe going to satrt whil Quentin rides the pine because i dont believe joe ccould get any better riding the pine.

    Especially after his promise he showed last year i mean wouldnt that be depressing to show so much and then your team signs another guy that might not have as much potential as you and start them over you because they pound their head witht here fists.

    Secondly cant Joe play the sg which is what atl needs so i dont see how we would be overloded considering delks a pg.
    Diaw a forward and etc.

    I know this trade would leave our frontcourt open for run in but i thibk it would have stabled us a bit also with a solid sg.

    it was just atrade proposition though i thought of due to the suns situation.

    I guess we would really be better off keeping dampier.

    thanks everybody for your comments
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">I mean i understand Joe is developing so well with the suns is why i think he could really help the hawks orginization.

    I mean this kid has so much potential its justs crazy.

    I guess my real question is why did the suns sign quentin with such a good guy in joe and i also wnder is joe going to satrt whil Quentin rides the pine because i dont believe joe ccould get any better riding the pine. </div>

    Well I can't answer that question. It was a dumb signing IMO. They should of gone right after Dampier, without any sign and trade, because they have no bad contracts, other than Marion, whos price is right.

    Especially after his promise he showed last year i mean wouldnt that be depressing to show so much and then your team signs another guy that might not have as much potential as you and start them over you because they pound their head witht here fists.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">Secondly cant Joe play the sg which is what atl needs so i dont see how we would be overloded considering delks a pg.
    Diaw a forward and etc.

    I know this trade would leave our frontcourt open for run in but i thibk it would have stabled us a bit also with a solid sg.

    it was just atrade proposition though i thought of due to the suns situation.

    I guess we would really be better off keeping dampier.

    thanks everybody for your comments</div>

    Obviously the Suns would be better off with Dampier than Q, because that'll give them the best starting lineup in the NBA.

    If the Hawks are planning on getting JJ, then its a one year plan, because Childress is ready for the SG Spot. Harrington has the SF spot, and Smith and Diaw will be backing them up. So unless they plan on sitting Josh Smith the whole year, it's not happening.

    Lastly this trade cannot happen. This is not a sign and trade, because Dampier is not being resigned. It does not match contract wise, because Dampier will be making 4 times more the money than JJ. Lastly, if Dampier does get signed by a team, he cannot be traded until December 15th, so I don't know why this thread is still going.
     

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