You think it could be I think it could. They wont have a dynasty together becuase Shaqs getting older but they could be a force to be reckoned with in the next few years. I feel like doing a comparison for Dwayne and Kobe at 21. Dwyane Wade PPG 16.2 RPG 4.0 APG 4.5 SPG 1.41 BPG .56 FG% .465 FT% .747 3P% .302 Kobe Bryant FG%.468 3P%.319 FT%.821 RPG 6.30 APG 4.9 SPG 1.61 BPG .94 PPG 22.5 Now theyre similar except Kobe has a big edge in PPG. He should though because hes a SG and Dwyanes a PG. Is a shame they wont make a dynasty together. Dwyane will become a true point guard like J-Kidd IMO not a shoot first PG like someone like Marbury. Now I know Tracy and Yao has a better chance then them but its closer than you think. Tracy and Yao wont go as well as yall think. T-Mac will try and be the star when the coach wwants Yao as his "guy". T-Mac will get pissed and a fight could start. Shaq is a lot better than Yao. T-Mac is better than Wade but its hard to tell becuase theyre different positions. T-Mac is also sefish just like KObe. Wade will gain the ability to make his teammates better a aura that very few players posses. Now a days the only players that have that aura are J-Kidd, KG, Timmy , and Shaq. Look what Shaq did to Penny and Kobe. He wil do the same to Wade. Wade will learn what its like to have Shaq on your team. Much more open looks, dominant player,etc. Kobe at 21 had a Shaq. Wade at 21 had no one. He basically was the star of that team. So Kobe and Wade would have similar stats if Wade had Shaq a year ago. Wade will only continue to develop too. He will become a beast as Kobe has. Wade and Shaq will also have better chemistry than Shaq and Kobe. Kobe is a selfish player that forces shots. Wade is very genourous with the ball and will pass to the open man id he doesnt have a good shot. Wade will allow Shaq to get better and Shaq will allow Wade to get better. Shaq can create open looks Wade can feed.If Wade feeds enough there will be no stopping the min the East unless they face the Pistons....... Shaq and Wade could become the Next Big Thing.
Wait wait...this sounds like more of a Kobe/Wade comparison thread. Let me say something really quick...having Shaq can be both an advantage and a disadvantage to Kobe's stats. Depending on the way you look at it, here's why: <u>Advantages</u> Shaq provided security underneath the hoop for anyone on the same team as the Diesel. He helped create shots for others. He pulled offensive boards for second-chance points for Kobe. He even passed the ball well, and also gave Kobe many opportunities to rack up his assists column whenever he was open underneath the hoop. <u>Disadvantages</u> Shaq created his own shot, thus making 3/4 of Kobe's passes NOT an assist to Shaq. Kobe had to share the ball with another superstar...wait...make that three others this last season...who only wanted to score. Both had big egos, so both thought they deserved the ball more. Shaq caused more fouls, causing Kobe to work twice as hard when he was sitting out due to foul trouble. See, everyone can give their opinions, but there are in fact two sides to every story...and there are both of them. Shaq could very well cast a shadow over Wade, causing him to fade out like Penny did once Shaq retires...or he could turn him into a star. Shaq could also demand the ball (yes, I know he said it's Wade's team...but when you're Shaq, you think everything is yours). Wade could soon realize that his rookie season could've been his best by far...and let's say that the Heat do win the rings. Who would be the main reason? I can guarantee NOBODY will say Dwyane Wade, no matter how many he scores. However, Wade does realize that if he won it last year, he would've been the reason in everyone's eyes. This is reality...this is what really happens when you have someone like Shaq on your team. I've never liked the Diesel, and I never will because of this. Yes, I'll admit he was a big reason for the championships...but I feel as if there were more possibilities with another good center...so that has yet to be seen unless you're the Chicago Bulls and MJ. That's just my two cents.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting realdealbneal:</div><div class="quote_post">Wait wait...this sounds like more of a Kobe/Wade comparison thread. Let me say something really quick...having Shaq can be both an advantage and a disadvantage to Kobe's stats. Depending on the way you look at it, here's why: <u>Advantages</u> Shaq provided security underneath the hoop for anyone on the same team as the Diesel. He helped create shots for others. He pulled offensive boards for second-chance points for Kobe. He even passed the ball well, and also gave Kobe many opportunities to rack up his assists column whenever he was open underneath the hoop. <u>Disadvantages</u> Shaq created his own shot, thus making 3/4 of Kobe's passes NOT an assist to Shaq. Kobe had to share the ball with another superstar...wait...make that three others this last season...who only wanted to score. Both had big egos, so both thought they deserved the ball more. Shaq caused more fouls, causing Kobe to work twice as hard when he was sitting out due to foul trouble. See, everyone can give their opinions, but there are in fact two sides to every story...and there are both of them. Shaq could very well cast a shadow over Wade, causing him to fade out like Penny did once Shaq retires...or he could turn him into a star. Shaq could also demand the ball (yes, I know he said it's Wade's team...but when you're Shaq, you think everything is yours). Wade could soon realize that his rookie season could've been his best by far...and let's say that the Heat do win the rings. Who would be the main reason? I can guarantee NOBODY will say Dwyane Wade, no matter how many he scores. However, Wade does realize that if he won it last year, he would've been the reason in everyone's eyes. This is reality...this is what really happens when you have someone like Shaq on your team. I've never liked the Diesel, and I never will because of this. Yes, I'll admit he was a big reason for the championships...but I feel as if there were more possibilities with another good center...so that has yet to be seen unless you're the Chicago Bulls and MJ. That's just my two cents.</div>Who are you?!?!?! And what have you done with realdealbneal?!?! Good post man, I've never seen you so centered on the shaq kobe thing, you opened my eyes on some issues to the whole deal :thumbsup: . I'll just say that the thing with Shaq and Kobe is they were concerned with looking good first and winning second, and that's why they would never get along. But the thing that clicks with D wade is that he wants to win first and look good second, so he can coexist with Shaq, and that's why he welcomes the fact that they're getting a real good center, because they have a better shot at winning this season. He's still gonna look good plus he's getting more attention than before because Shaq and Wade are touted as the new eastern power. I remember Kevin McHale being asked if he regrets playing with Larry Bird because he was a greater player and he played under his shadow. He replied that, he probably wouldve been a better player, scored more PPG and have better stats, but that he would've never won as many titles as he did with out Larry Bird, so he never regrets doing it. As far as comparing kobe to wade I think they're both great players in their own aspects. But I think the best players make names for themselves and are not compared to other great players.
Sig is Way too big. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"><u>Disadvantages</u> Shaq created his own shot, thus making 3/4 of Kobe's passes NOT an assist to Shaq. Kobe had to share the ball with another superstar...wait...make that three others this last season...who only wanted to score. Both had big egos, so both thought they deserved the ball more. Shaq caused more fouls, causing Kobe to work twice as hard when he was sitting out due to foul trouble</div> Just one thing, Payton and Malone were no longer superstars, All-Star caliber players, but not superstars anymore. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">See, everyone can give their opinions, but there are in fact two sides to every story...and there are both of them. Shaq could very well cast a shadow over Wade, causing him to fade out like Penny did once Shaq retires...or he could turn him into a star</div> Also I thought Penny faded due to injuries? <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">However, Wade does realize that if he won it last year, he would've been the reason in everyone's eyes. </div> No, even though Wade scored, we never neglected what Odom did, he also scored, rebounded, and created shots for the team, Wade would get credit for it but anyone that knows the team wouldn't say he was the reason.
Well all i know is that Dwyane wade is too talented to be wrecked just cause of Shaq... And i'm sure he doens't ruin people's careers... Just cause Kobe might suck after Shaq leaves doesn't mean it's Shaqs fault he needs a dominate bigman to be good. Same with Penny, but penny was cause of injuries.. Wade and Shaq will actually like each other and willing to pass unlike S&K.
Well the only thing they couldnt come to agree upon is "Whose team it is." Wade says it's Shaq's and Shaq says it's Dwyane's They will actually get along nicely I think. At least, they don't compete each other to take over the team's banner. Too much ego will kill the team.
One thing about team chemistry is you cannot have 2 big egos on the same team such as Shaq and Kobe. They worked nicely for for a pretty long time thnx to Phil Jackson keeping the team together. It's funny because once Phil left they all left. Phil Jackson was the Glue of the Lakers and THe glue wore off. Shaq and Kobe both have VERY big egos. Kobe started out not having one and then got pissed because it was Shaqs team. Wade's ego is not very big at all. I agree Wade and Shaq will get a lone nicely and become the best guard/center duo in the East.
