Are the Kings falling apart? Well, so far they've lost Wallace, Divac, and Peeler. It's seems like every year they are tearing it up in the regular season and then just flop when it matters most. They need to learn how to use the home court advantage in the playoffs to advance. Maybe it's the players, maybe it's the coach, maybe it's the front office, I'm not sure but they need to address it soon. There are now reports of players like Chris Webber and Peja Stojakovic wanting out of Sac-town. If this is true the organization needs to tkae notice and speak with these guys and find out what changes could be made to change their minds. Two of the high-caliber teams in the western conference that I look at equaly in the past few years were the Kings and the Mavs. In my eyes they are both getting so far in the playoffs but can never exceed the following years fallout. They are also owned and ran by high-profile weathly owners in Mark Cuban and the Maloof brothers. Cuban in my opinion is getting sick of it and is trying to make some changes. The Maloof brothers seemed to be happy with that core and thought eventually that they would prevail. Rick Adelman and Don Nelson may be the problem here and may need to get the boot soon, because things are going to start to get ugly in the next few years.
The Sacramento Kings still have a legitimate shot at going to the NBA Finals if Chris Webber and Bobby Jackson fully recover from their respective injuries, and they trade Peja "The Turtle" Stojakovic for Ron Artest.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting imtomjonesbitch:</div><div class="quote_post">The Sacramento Kings still have a legitimate shot at going to the NBA Finals if Chris Webber and Bobby Jackson fully recover from their respective injuries, and they trade Peja "The Turtle" Stojakovic for Ron Artest.</div> How would trading Peja for Artest help matters? Peja is not the GM, thus he doesn't get to decide whether or not he gets traded. They should try to figure out what he doesn't like about Sacramento and try to meet his needs. I don't get why he wouldn't like the direction the team is going in. There's only a few sources that don't pick the Kings to win the Division title. I don't think anything needs to be changed with the Kings. They haven't lost anyone too significant.
The Kings are not falling apart, and like Voodoo said, the kings should try as hard as they can to meet Peja's needs. Peja is a key player for the kings and IMO can not afford to lose im. However, I do feel that if he ois traded for the right person, it's all right. However, I also htink that the Kings have made some badd offseason moves. They haven't done anything big and lost out on Peeler, Wallace and Divac. IMO the kings are(right now) worse off than last year, but still can be one of the top western seeds, and have a legit shot.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Voodoo Child:</div><div class="quote_post">How would trading Peja for Artest help matters? Peja is not the GM, thus he doesn't get to decide whether or not he gets traded. They should try to figure out what he doesn't like about Sacramento and try to meet his needs. I don't get why he wouldn't like the direction the team is going in. There's only a few sources that don't pick the Kings to win the Division title. I don't think anything needs to be changed with the Kings. They haven't lost anyone too significant.</div> I don't see how making this trade wouldn't help matters for the Kings. They would be trading a soft, disgruntled player who disapears in the post season and in exchange getting a player who is arguably the best defensive player in the NBA and would add much needed heart and toughness to a team that sorely lacks in both of those areas.
They may not be falling apart but recently everyone want out. And don't you think changes need to be made if exits are being made from the playoffs for the last however so many years. Take the Eagles for example, 3 times to the conference championship and all losses. What did they do different this year? They mades changes and signed 2 big names players in TO and Kearse.
No, the Kings aren't falling apart. Peja isn't going anywhere and we got two exciting rookies and a healthy Webber along with Bobby Jackson.
Everyone is replying to this post as if I stated that are falling apart. I'm am not exactly saying that they are, take notice that there are question mark in the thread title.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting pgrudo00:</div><div class="quote_post">Everyone is replying to this post as if I stated that are falling apart. I'm am not exactly saying that they are, take notice that there are question marks in the thread title.</div> I Know where your'e coming from Pgrudo.You are simply asking a question..I Say that the Kings are just trying to piece together somea puzzle so they can go on to the NBA Crown.I Don't know it there falling apart,but we will find out at the end of the season.
Myself being one of the biggest King haters on this board, and I'm gonna say, things are slowly starting to fall apart. Chris Webber is talking down on his teammates, Peja wants out because of Webber's comments and Divac's departure, and the rest of the King players are a bunch of overrated ambyssals that only tear it up in the regular season and have NBA beat writers talking wonders about this team, but in the playoffs when it counts, you flick a switch and they turn into a team with no determination or sense to win whatsover, individually their games in the playoffs are heartless and gutless, and whatever they seem to want to accomplish, which means choking, they succeed in doing that. Now that all the players want out, it's a huge plague and sooner or later, that franchise will turn into what it used to be. Nothing that no beat writer or fan will recognize again. My two cents.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">Myself being one of the biggest King haters on this board, and I'm gonna say, things are slowly starting to fall apart. Chris Webber is talking down on his teammates, Peja wants out because of Webber's comments and Divac's departure, and the rest of the King players are a bunch of overrated ambyssals that only tear it up in the regular season and have NBA beat writers talking wonders about this team, but in the playoffs when it counts, you flick a switch and they turn into a team with no determination or sense to win whatsover, individually their games in the playoffs are heartless and gutless, and whatever they seem to want to accomplish, which means choking, they succeed in doing that. Now that all the players want out, it's a huge plague and sooner or later, that franchise will turn into what it used to be. Nothing that no beat writer or fan will recognize again. My two cents. </div> Of course Emo i know your'e Happy about this.Thanks for your comments.They mean so much coming from a Laker Fan like You LOL It's all good Emo,but how will you deal with your Sisters($actyne_dyme)responce to your "2 cents" I'm curious about that one
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">Myself being one of the biggest King haters on this board, and I'm gonna say, things are slowly starting to fall apart. Chris Webber is talking down on his teammates, Peja wants out because of Webber's comments and Divac's departure, and the rest of the King players are a bunch of overrated ambyssals that only tear it up in the regular season and have NBA beat writers talking wonders about this team, but in the playoffs when it counts, you flick a switch and they turn into a team with no determination or sense to win whatsover, individually their games in the playoffs are heartless and gutless, and whatever they seem to want to accomplish, which means choking, they succeed in doing that. Now that all the players want out, it's a huge plague and sooner or later, that franchise will turn into what it used to be. Nothing that no beat writer or fan will recognize again. My two cents. </div> Well, I still see the Kings doing better than the Lakers next year.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting imtomjonesbitch:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't see how making this trade wouldn't help matters for the Kings. They would be trading a soft, disgruntled player who disapears in the post season and in exchange getting a player who is arguably the best defensive player in the NBA and would add much needed heart and toughness to a team that sorely lacks in both of those areas.</div> what Artest did more than peja?
What's all this talk about the Kings "falling apart"? Like it's been stated previously, the Kings haven't lost anybody significant except for maybe Divac. And if Peja wants to be traded, it's not his decision to make and if he's gonna be traded, you can expect the Maloofs will get nothing less than full value in return. I still expect great ball to be played by the Kings this upcoming season and if Adelman can't get the Kings over the hump this year, I'll be expecting a coaching change. The Kings are not falling apart and owners like the Maloofs won't let the Kings fall apart.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Emo:</div><div class="quote_post">...and the rest of the King players are a bunch of overrated ambyssals</div> What's with the name calling? If you can't show respect for the Kings players on the Kings forum, the only "ambyssal" here is you. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Now that all the players want out, it's a huge plague and sooner or later</div> Two players wanting out is all the players wanting out? Come on. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">that franchise will turn into what it used to be. Nothing that no beat writer or fan will recognize again.</div> Do you seriously believe the Maloofs will let that happen? Keep hoping.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor..._sam&id=1856243 This link describes it all. Meaning that it didn't just start with the elimination. I respect the hell out of the Kings and found that they were the only team I wanted to beat the Lakesters a few years ago. It's painful to watch an excellent TEAM crumble like this. I always....ALWAYS thought they got along and would go to war with each others backs. Hell, this is their best chance.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Sabretooth:</div><div class="quote_post">http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/stor..._sam&id=1856243 This link describes it all. Meaning that it didn't just start with the elimination. I respect the hell out of the Kings and found that they were the only team I wanted to beat the Lakesters a few years ago. It's painful to watch an excellent TEAM crumble like this. I always....ALWAYS thought they got along and would go to war with each others backs. Hell, this is their best chance.</div> Great Artcile.I Don't wanna say this team is crumbling now,but it sure looks like it so far :thumbsdow ...I Still have hope for this team,and i do think we can get our act together,and go on and keep on playing great. Right now there are changes going on.but you know what.true fans will go on despite all the drama going on,and keep on rooting for the Kings.i will do that.no matter if everybody wanted to leave,i'd still be a fan.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Need4Sheed:</div><div class="quote_post">Are the Kings falling apart? Well, so far they've lost Wallace, Divac, and Peeler. It's seems like every year they are tearing it up in the regular season and then just flop when it matters most. They need to learn how to use the home court advantage in the playoffs to advance. Maybe it's the players, maybe it's the coach, maybe it's the front office, I'm not sure but they need to address it soon. There are now reports of players like Chris Webber and Peja Stojakovic wanting out of Sac-town. If this is true the organization needs to tkae notice and speak with these guys and find out what changes could be made to change their minds. Two of the high-caliber teams in the western conference that I look at equaly in the past few years were the Kings and the Mavs. In my eyes they are both getting so far in the playoffs but can never exceed the following years fallout. They are also owned and ran by high-profile weathly owners in Mark Cuban and the Maloof brothers. Cuban in my opinion is getting sick of it and is trying to make some changes. The Maloof brothers seemed to be happy with that core and thought eventually that they would prevail. Rick Adelman and Don Nelson may be the problem here and may need to get the boot soon, because things are going to start to get ugly in the next few years.</div> its been no secret that I have been yelling and screaming thru a megaphone to get rid of wallace.. its not that he isnt good, but that on a team like the kings he was just taking up money that could be spent on something more useful, so no big deal there. Peeler, while a good role player, again doesnt make the kings win or loose on his own and does not even come close to being in the same catagory as Bobby Jackson who could start on most teams in the NBA while Peeler is pretty much only a starter on a last place team, but a backup on just about every other team. Divac, well... I didnt like seeing him go, and while he was not going to be starting this year, he does add a lot in the locker room. but as we have seen with the barrage of things going back and forth in the media, perhaps its time that that his influence isnt there. Only time will tell on that one. They need to learn something more important that how to use home court advantage, they need to learn to be nasty. Perhaps what they really need to do is force Stojakovic to stay with webber and let them get really pissed at each other, then turn that upset loose on the court. Perhaps they do need a coach that isnt quite so unlucky. Sometimes its better to be lucky than it is to be good... that was the way it was for the lakers when they met the kings in the WCF (every one knows the kings should have won that series, but didnt. color the lakers very lucky on that one) but personally, Id rather be good. In the luck catagory, Adleman has a very black cloud sitting right behind his shoulder that likes to pop its head out at the most inopportune moments. every year in his history of post season coaching, he has been in a David and Goliath situation where the opponent was the Goliath they should have been and the results were expected. You come to the one year the Kings were the Goliath, and they get taken out in the confrence finals. This current lineup and coaching staff of the Kings only has one season to put it together tho, no matter which way you prefer to go, but there will be some really major changes after this season if they dont. But for this season im really more interested in keeping this group together for one more year and see what happens.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Bez Koske:</div><div class="quote_post">Well, I still see the Kings doing better than the Lakers next year. </div> Yeah in the win/loss category. But never championship material.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting $actown Dyme:</div><div class="quote_post">What's with the name calling? If you can't show respect for the Kings players on the Kings forum, the only "ambyssal" here is you.</div> Name calling? Doesn't it just hurt when I rub it in? Showing respect for the Kings players? That's how much you know about me and that organization. LOL <div class="quote_poster">Quoting $actown Dyme:</div><div class="quote_post">Two players wanting out is all the players wanting out? Come on.</div> Whoa, you had no idea Peja and Webber were two of the biggest pieces on that team? Face it, Peja and a healthy Chris Webber is your franchise. Without them, you're done.
