<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Scott actually is a pretty good posterboy of racial ignorance, he used an old stereotype and basically said everyone in Boston is racist, though never living there I don't understand how he would know.</div> You're wasting your time, BC. I was "just digging for things to say", according to some.... Let's see if I got it all: <font color="DarkGreen">"Us Boston fans is an ignorant bunch who don't know much of nothin' . We's all just a buncha racist, who as a whole are kinda dumb"</font> Ooops, nope forgot that we were the worst team in the NBA too. Shame on me for forgetting that one.
BC that is not what Scott said at all. He said that Bostons fans have a habit of treating athletes of color poorly. I bet now you are going to say something about how they love PP or Pedro aren't you? You can provide counter examples all day, but the man had a point. How can Boston be labled the best sports town when they treat people like shit? That is probably why New York did not win. They are notorious for treating visiting teams poorly and heckling fans. I will name a few towns better than Boston: New York, LA, Dallas, Seattle, etc. Hagrid I dont know what you were trying to prove with that sentence with the poor grammar. I haven't ever spoken like that, so whatever. I am actually a Sox fan, but I dont think that Boston is a good sports town. And as for the draft, regardless of your picks, you should have tanked. Everyone knew that the Pacers would sweep them? Why waste the time playing (and losing) 4 games, when you could have let Lebron go out there and embarass himself while you stole a pick?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">BC that is not what Scott said at all. He said that Bostons fans have a habit of treating athletes of color poorly. I bet now you are going to say something about how they love PP or Pedro aren't you? You can provide counter examples all day, but the man had a point. How can Boston be labled the best sports town when they treat people like shit? That is probably why New York did not win. They are notorious for treating visiting teams poorly and heckling fans. I will name a few towns better than Boston: New York, LA, Dallas, Seattle, etc. Hagrid I dont know what you were trying to prove with that sentence with the poor grammar. I haven't ever spoken like that, so whatever. I am actually a Sox fan, but I dont think that Boston is a good sports town. And as for the draft, regardless of your picks, you should have tanked. Everyone knew that the Pacers would sweep them? Why waste the time playing (and losing) 4 games, when you could have let Lebron go out there and embarass himself while you stole a pick?</div> Besides the fact you put words in my mouth, you still haven't provided any <u>recent</u> examples of Boston fans treating players poorly. Why would NYC deserve a win over Boston, because they were mediocre last year in all sports? None of those cities you mentioned are good in every sport or even have a team in every sport. Regardless of what you have to say, unless you live there, or have lived there, how do you know what the people are like; hearsay. I've lived in both NYC and Boston and I think what makes Boston the better sports city IMo is the unity, there's one team per sport and everyone is behind them. there aren't any Cubs Chi Sox, Mets Yankees, Dodgers Angels, Giants A's debates. And right from the Herald last June, Scott apologized for calling Boston racist <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Remember when the Nets coach tagged Boston as a racist city that made black athletes feel uncomfortable? That was apparently gamesmanship. Scott, in town to watch his team's entry play the Celtics in a Reebook Pro Summer League finale at UMass-Boston yesterday, said he was merely trying to take the pressure off his players by making those comments on the eve of New Jersey's sweep of the Celtics in the Eastern Conference semifinals.</div> On the Celtics, they had a good draft and their younger players gained valuable playoff experience. They may have been destroyed, but now the guys like Ricky, Jiri, etc. have some good experience in the post season and know whnat it will take to win
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">He said that Bostons fans have a habit of treating athletes of color poorly.</div> Yeah, particularly when they're Jerks and come to town wearing a Lakers jersey. Yeah, Boston has treated black athletes poorly in the past. So have St. Louis, NY, LA, and every other city across the Association. Give that tired ass sterotype a break, will you. Otherwise, spread the honor across all cities in the NBA, because the same amount of racism is basically present in every major city in the country. It sucks, but that's reality. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">And as for the draft, regardless of your picks, you should have tanked</div> The fact that you advocate purposely losing games, pretty much says all about you that needs to be known.
Jurassic, I suggest you watch <u>Bill Russell: My Life, My Way</u>. It is a documentry of Russell's playing career. After you're done watching it, come back here and apologize for the "racist" accusations that you've made here.
Jurassic:<font color="DarkOliveGreen">I will name a few towns better than Boston: New York, LA, Dallas, Seattle, etc.</font> <font color="DarkGreen">Hagrid I dont know what you were trying to prove with that sentence with the poor grammar. I haven't ever spoken like that, so whatever. </font> OK hold on...lets examine what you just dug up. New York is not good past the Yankees, the Knicks arent/havent been going anywhere, the Jets/Giants are now at the bottom of the NFL, and the Rangers well, I dont care much for Hockey but they havent won in awhile as well. Not only winning, but New York fans are always arrogant and are very cruel to other teams/fan. Nice try! LA:Might be a valid argument except that this is not the best NBA sports town, so they're out. No football team, which is big, the Dodgers while doing well have not been consistent, and I dont know if they have a hockey team. These fans dont even bother to go to regular season games to the only real sport they have. Unless its the playoffs, the Staples center is empty. Hey but how bout them Clippers? Dallas:They got history in the Cowboys, but no baseball team, ? on hockey, and their basketball team cant win in the playoffs. I dont know how loyal or what their fans are like, but Dallas just doesnt seem like a good overall sports town. Seattle:Now this is the one you dug up from a septic field. Are you kidding? What has Seattle done to deserve that award. A lottery BBall team, in the west where they will never win, a falling/aging baseball team in the Mariners who used to have AROD, GRIFF, RANDY, but they're gone. ? again on hockey, and their football team will make the playoffs, but thats it. Seattle people have spent too much time on grunge and I never hear anything about their fans. Will you explain this? Yeah and back up your arguments and make it harder for the idiot Bostonians to roast you. As for the second part you should talk like that cause your pretty dumb if you cant realize what Hagrid was doing. Since some people attacked Boston fans and called them ignorant racists, Hagrid spoke like an ignorant racist to mock that, which is not true. BOSTON:#1#1#1 SPORTS CITY AND PROUD OF IT!
I'm sorry I just hate Boston right now because the whole John Kerry thing. I went to Boston last summer it was alright.
If Boston is regarded as great, then why are only Boston natives and Celtics fans the ones in this thread who seem to feel so? I'm not going to apoligize, because I'm not being racist. Did I say anything about white, black, latino, or asian races? No, I simply pointed out what was said about Boston fans (and last time I checked, they aren't a race). And yes racism exists everywhere, but that does not justify Boston's past. You can't honestly believe that Boston won this award only because of present accomplishments. They won it also because they have had 16 great Celtics teams in the past. So I ask you, if we can look at positive aspects of the past, why can we not look at negative ones? That is why I brought up their poor treatment of black athletes. But apparently BC, and Hagrid see that as irrelevant (or misunderstood my motive). I dont even dislike Boston. I think that Ainge is a poor GM, and no I don't promote tanking, but this is a business. Like it or not teams tank (Phoenix). I believe that multiple sports commentators even said that making the playoffs was Ainge's worst mistake yet. Wink23, you basically responded to all of the Cities I named by saying "I don't know anything about their fans, but here are some players that they have lost...." Whatever, I watched Pedro pitch a 9 inning shutout today, and rooted for him. You guys are making me about to be a homer/Boston hater, when really I like them. I just dont think that they are the best sports city by any stretch of the imagination.
As soon as you prove that you have better credentials than "Executice Editor" of The Sporting News, I'll respect your viewpoint more than the article's. I strongly recommend that you watch the Bill Russell documentry I mentioned above, It could possibly change the way you look at the whole racist aspect. Although, you seem very close-minded and naive, so maybe it wouldn't.
I remember Page 2 doing an article ranking every city. They actually based this on statistics, and Boston statistically is the best four-sport city. FACT. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/cityrankings/2003.html
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Wink23, you basically responded to all of the Cities I named by saying "I don't know anything about their fans, but here are some players that they have lost...."</div> If you look back at that, I said I dont know anything about their hockey teams. I did in fact say stuff about the fans. You still did not back up why those cities are better than Boston. I just want to see a valid argument with something to back it up.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I remember Page 2 doing an article ranking every city. They actually based this on statistics, and Boston statistically is the best four-sport city. FACT. http://espn.go.com/page2/s/cityrankings/2003.html</div>Thanks for that! I remember that article now that I've read it again. It certainlly helps prove the point to the oblivious. I have a feeling that Jurassic is too stubborn to let that article change his mind.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44caliberThrila:</div><div class="quote_post">As soon as you prove that you have better credentials than "Executice Editor" of The Sporting News, I'll respect your viewpoint more than the article's. </div> Since when do credentials make one's viewpoint more valid? <div class="quote_poster">Quoting 44caliberThrila:</div><div class="quote_post">I strongly recommend that you watch the Bill Russell documentry I mentioned above, It could possibly change the way you look at the whole racist aspect. Although, you seem very close-minded and naive, so maybe it wouldn't.</div> This coming from someone with Ricky Davis in their sig, and the Celtics listed as their favorite team? Yet I am biased and close-minded?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Wink23:</div><div class="quote_post">I just want to see a valid argument with something to back it up.</div> You did not really provide an argument as to why those cities are not better. You are located in Boston, so you are arguing out of pride more than intelligence. Do you know anything about the fans in those cities that I listed?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Jurassic:</div><div class="quote_post">You did not really provide an argument as to why those cities are not better. You are located in Boston, so you are arguing out of pride more than intelligence. Do you know anything about the fans in those cities that I listed?</div> Well I actually do, as I've either lived in those cities for aa few weeks or months except for Seattle, though I don't know what makes a city that hasn't won any championships in any of the major sports so great. They also have no hockey team. I don't think I need to go into NY, the city with the biggest fair weather fans of any other. Anyone else remember them booing Jeter. I live right by the NYC now, and it's amazing how many "Nets fans" suddenly popped up when they made the finals, these were the same guys who were Knicks fans when Ewing was around. LA just has sub par fans in general, from what I saw. Dodger Stadium is never packed and the people always leave the games early. My question to you is, do you know anything about the cities you listed? Or are you just throwing cities out there because you don't like Boston?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting BC:</div><div class="quote_post"> are you just throwing cities out there because you don't like Boston?</div> <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">You guys are making me about to be a homer/Boston hater, when really I like them. I just dont think that they are the best sports city by any stretch of the imagination.</div> That answers that.
Ok me and BC just gave you reasons why those cities arent the best sports city, and you still havent backed up what you wrote. So stop talking around it and give reasons why <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">NY,LA,Seattle,Dallas</div> are better than Boston.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> This coming from someone with Ricky Davis in their sig, and the Celtics listed as their favorite team? Yet I am biased and close-minded? </div>Do yourself a favor and read my post again, champ. I never used the word biased, I said "naive". Then after that, read my post when I said I was biased. Better yet...Here it is:<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Now, in regards to Boston being selected the best sports city, I can't really say much about it since I haven't seen any other city first-hand. The Boston sports community is the only one I have seen and been a part of, so I can't compare it to any other.</div> --Here's the thing though...I didn't write the article.-- <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Since when do credentials make one's viewpoint more valid?</div>Hmmm.... Let's think here. What would I (or anybody) consider to be a great viewpoint on a matter such as this? One from somebody whose job it is to cover sports. One who works for a national magazine, and covers stories from different cities from all over the country. One who has been in the business for so long, and is so good at his job that a major player in American sports journalism has named him "Executive Editor". I'll take it. Now if all of that describes you, than I apologize. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> Do you know anything about the fans in those cities that I listed?</div> Exactly. You listed them....not him. Do YOU know anything about those fans? If you do, then give us valid reasons why they are better cities than Boston. You can't just list off cities that you think are better without giving any valid reasons. Oh, and while we're at it..... http://espn.go.com/page2/s/cityrankings/2003.html I want to see if you ignore that link again. Maybe it didn't show up on your screen the first and second time it was posted.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting hagrid:</div><div class="quote_post">Best Sport City: Boston Thoughts? Can't say I disagree, but then again, I'm biased. </div> Congrats to Boston they have had some great teams with the celtics winning all those titles and the patriots having there little run now in the new era. Now if only the sox could bea tthe yankees they might have something . I personally think that boston has had some great teams, but as far as orginization in general I believe they are not the number one sports city just my opinion. I would have to go with New York just because it is the biggest media orginization for any sports franchise. I also like philly because we demand to succeed and do not accept faliure. Then chicago in the 90's was the greatest sports city. With Jordan and Da bulls. Though today if I had to list it I would put los angeles and New York over Boston for the greatest sports cities and have a tie in third between them and philly. Basically because LA and NY are huge media marketedfranchises who get bigger every year even when there losing not to mention the lakers have been successful in every decade and carried on the tradition while the celts have been in a slump.
Well, I hope you Boston people wont get offended on what i am going to comment on Boston being voted the best sports city. First to start with the Boston Red Sox, they might be good and every single year gives their fans hopes to win a world series, yet to get their asses handed to the Yankees and its the saying "Theres always next year" for 86 straight years. I hate the Red Sox just cant stand them. Their fans need to learn to cheer for their team, besides cheering against the Yankees. And lol props to Aaron Boone for clutching it in Game 7 and props to A-Rod for saying F You to Varitek.... Celtics, no questions one of the greatest team ever, but that wont be enough to win them the best sports city.. so this is bias.
