<div class="quote_poster">Quoting LACneedGRIZZARD:</div><div class="quote_post">Dude, you're fucking ignorant. Just because he's your favorite player doesn't mean that he's the best. Hell, DM is mine, but I don't go around saying he's God. Odom did nothing? What the **** kind of basketball did you watch last year? His team, which was no where near as deep as Peja's went just as far in the playoffs. LO averaged 17 ppg, and I think, I maybe be wrong somewhere near 8 rpg. He's 6-10, creates shots off the dribble, REBOUNDS, PLAYS DEFENSE. All Peja does is shoot and whine. He's the biggest bitch in sports. He wants out of Sacto because he doesn't get along with Webber, and because Vlade got traded. I'll end with what I started with... Dude, you're fucking ignorant.</div> im <strike>fuckin</strike> ignorant?.. can u tell my why Odom never make an all-star squad, and peja did it the last 3 years, ?, i don,t think peja is da best, not at all, but he is better than Odom , maybe he's not a graet all-around playa like Odom is but, still his D is underrated, his rebounds skill too.... I do believe Peja is better.. if you dont agree with that's fine, tell why to just that im a =<strike>fuckin</strike> ***.. <font color="red">Watch your language, this type of attitude is not permitted. I suggest you clean up your act or you will no longer post here. -Franchise</font>
Peja Stojakovic is a brilliant player, well... mainly shooter. In my opinion better then Odom, but I feel the Lakers could make better use of Odom. The guy should be something serious soon. Why we need Odom more has already been discussed enough..
Stojakovic might be better but the fact is that the Lakers need Odom more then they would need Stojakovic.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Watch your language, this type of attitude is not permitted. I suggest you clean up your act or you will no longer post here.</div> I was Quoting LACneedGRIZZARD,
People forget that Odom's had ONE good season so far. Peja's been doing well for a while now. As for creating his own shot? YOU CANNOT GET 2nd IN THE LEAGUE IN SCORING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CREATE YOUR OWN SHOT. It just doesn't work like that. Steve Kerr would be a top10 scorer if you could.. I mean come on now. This guy was also a candidate for league MVP (not that he had a legitimate chance of winning behind KG and Duncan, but still).. That said, Odom does has the potential to be a spectacular player.. I'd still say that currently Peja's market value is much higher than Odom's. As for the trade, if I were a Lakers fan I'd do it in a heartbeat. A combination of Peja and Kobe would mean arguably the best scoring duo in the league since well, Shaq and Kobe.. Two threats that would probably be unguardable when on the floor together. Odom is strong, yes, but will he put up his numbers with the reduced number of touches? We know Peja can score on limited opportunities.. And as for playoff jitters, Peja's had to face much better competition than Odom; who's to say that Lamar will do much better? Who is to say Lamar won't lapse back into the problems he had 2 yrs ago that labeled him a problem child? If you can disregard that, you should disregard any questions about Peja in the playoffs as well :/
That's ridiculous that I can't express myself by cursing, but whatever, every place has rules. I guess these rules just suck. I'm sorry Peja for cursing at you, it was TOTALLY unacceptable.. (Yes, I was being sarcastic.)
i personally would not want peja on the lakers, 1. he is a choke, you put a good defender on him and you tell that player to concentrate on peja and no one else he is going to miss everytime, peja only makes it when he is wide open and that how the kings offense has worked for the last couple years, 2. he has a shaq like attitude, whinny complains demands thing that a player should not be asking but should earn
Ok, while i must say Peja is the better player of the two (I don't see why there's much of an arguement there..) I don't feel he's a better fit for the lakeshow. Odom might be the exact compliment on the offensive end kobe needs. another person who can push the break really well, someone who is really versatile. That's the type of fit the Kobe would benefit from. While i also feel peja would be a pretty good fit as well, taking a lot of pressure off Bryant, hitting the open shots when kobe penetrates and commands double or triple teams he doesn't fit the direction the team is going in at this point (all my opinion really, thats all this thread is by the way!) Well i've presented a very basic, and not thorough reasoning for my choice. And also i guess cursing is a way of expressing extreme emotion (wow an alliteration) it's not really necessary under these circumstances considering you're talking about two players who live foreign lives to your own. Also, they don't have any real effect on your life, so cool it a little.
Why would anyone say that Peja is better than Odom? Okay...here's something you guys must not be thinking about... Peja can shoot...very well. And he can shoot, too. Odom can create his own shot. He can rebound. He can run the point, play the SF/PF positions and sometimes the paint. He's stronger. He's faster. He throws more passes. He's younger. Now come the stats. Odom scores 17 PPG, 9.7 RPG, and throws 4 APG in 37 minutes a game. Peja scores 24 PPG, 6.3 RPG, and throws 2 APG in 40 minutes a game. Peja and Odom are the same height, and Odom is outweighed by 4 lbs by Peja. With all of this, <u>nobody</u> should be able to come to the conclusion that Peja is better than Odom. I would take Odom anyday.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tradebark:</div><div class="quote_post">People forget that Odom's had ONE good season so far. Peja's been doing well for a while now. As for creating his own shot? YOU CANNOT GET 2nd IN THE LEAGUE IN SCORING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CREATE YOUR OWN SHOT. It just doesn't work like that. Steve Kerr would be a top10 scorer if you could.. I mean come on now. This guy was also a candidate for league MVP (not that he had a legitimate chance of winning behind KG and Duncan, but still).. That said, Odom does has the potential to be a spectacular player.. I'd still say that currently Peja's market value is much higher than Odom's. As for the trade, if I were a Lakers fan I'd do it in a heartbeat. A combination of Peja and Kobe would mean arguably the best scoring duo in the league since well, Shaq and Kobe.. Two threats that would probably be unguardable when on the floor together. Odom is strong, yes, but will he put up his numbers with the reduced number of touches? We know Peja can score on limited opportunities.. And as for playoff jitters, Peja's had to face much better competition than Odom; who's to say that Lamar will do much better? Who is to say Lamar won't lapse back into the problems he had 2 yrs ago that labeled him a problem child? If you can disregard that, you should disregard any questions about Peja in the playoffs as well :/</div> this is true, Odom is an all-around player, but you cant judge a guy who played one good year, he was a totally loser with the Clips, so..
He wasn't a total loser, he was injured every single year, their's a reason why they were losing if you look at the injury and games played record of the good players on that team, and the year they weren't all injured they were 9th in the West and won 39 games, but Odom played his least games that year, so imagine how they would've done with him healthy.
I didn't imply anything about him being a loser, only that he's had one allstar year compared to Peja who has steadily improved ever since he got into the league. There's a difference there.
yeah, i didn'T meant to say loser, but he hasn't won anything, i donT like the way u say IF he hasnt bla bla If peja wasn't injured during the 2002 WCF, the kings would have win, but he was injure and taht's it..... so if u look what they both accomplished, Peja is better.
what are the differences between the ages, I know Odom is like 23 or 24 or something and Peja is at 28. To me that is the seal and deal of the trade. Cuz looking at the Lakers, they're not going to contend next year for a championship with the squad they put out right now so they're a team that people will be looking to harvest potential. With Kobe not yet at his peak, the team should be built on youth and Odom fits that. He can fit into all four positions. I would keep Odom and only trade him for Kidd cuz that guy is just flat out a difference maker.
If Odom can stay healthy, he will definately be an all star in the West. He has an opportunity to do great things in LA.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tradebark:</div><div class="quote_post">People forget that Odom's had ONE good season so far. Peja's been doing well for a while now. As for creating his own shot? YOU CANNOT GET 2nd IN THE LEAGUE IN SCORING WITHOUT BEING ABLE TO CREATE YOUR OWN SHOT. It just doesn't work like that. Steve Kerr would be a top10 scorer if you could.. I mean come on now. This guy was also a candidate for league MVP (not that he had a legitimate chance of winning behind KG and Duncan, but still).. That said, Odom does has the potential to be a spectacular player.. I'd still say that currently Peja's market value is much higher than Odom's. As for the trade, if I were a Lakers fan I'd do it in a heartbeat. A combination of Peja and Kobe would mean arguably the best scoring duo in the league since well, Shaq and Kobe.. Two threats that would probably be unguardable when on the floor together. Odom is strong, yes, but will he put up his numbers with the reduced number of touches? We know Peja can score on limited opportunities.. And as for playoff jitters, Peja's had to face much better competition than Odom; who's to say that Lamar will do much better? Who is to say Lamar won't lapse back into the problems he had 2 yrs ago that labeled him a problem child? If you can disregard that, you should disregard any questions about Peja in the playoffs as well :/</div> My thoughts Exactly and u cant Compare Odom to KG like some of you have because KG is like 2 or 1 years older than Odom and he is already the MVP Odom will be a great player there is no Denying that But he still wont win the MVP award i think Peja has a better Chance of getting MVP with that being said I would Take Peja over ODOM
