ouch! China vs Spain.

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  1. SHADOW

    SHADOW JBB JustBBall Member

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    [​IMG] Spain beat China,83-58.Yao score only 12 points and pau 21.
     
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    That was very much expected, Spain had a lot more depth than China.
     
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    [​IMG] Spain is better but i espect more from Yao.
     
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    If u look at the box score....Yao Ming had 5 fouls which means he fouled out and he only played 27 out of 40 minutes so you do the math....
     
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    Yao won't be shaving
     
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    Yao looked tired the whole game. The announcers couldnt stop talking about how bad his conditioning is... He didnt look good at all. I was expecting a lot more from him.
     
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    Well, Yao has been playing nonstop for a few years now, so obviously it's taking a toll on him. Spain is very strong inside, so Yao faced a lot of opposition. Don't worry, I'm sure he'll be looking a lot better when China faces a team without any inside strength like Angola.
     
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    Yao needs to work on his conditioning and stop being so lazy.
     
  9. Midnight Green

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    Well after Yao's promise he wont shave for 6 month if his team doesnt finish top 8th you would expect more from him. He is seven six him alone should have been able to carry china to a win instead of scoring 12 points. He needs to pick up his game to lead his team as he will have to do for the rockets along with tmac. Since there offense will run through him.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting YaoMing03-04:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao needs to work on his conditioning and stop being so lazy.</div>
    Work on his conditioning? Man, I think you should get an username change because you don't even understand Yao's situation. Who doesn't train their staminas? I'm sure Yao does, but look at his schedule. First off, it was the World Championships in 2002, then his gruelling rookie season. Last summer, Yao participated in the Asian Championships, then in the NBA season. It should be noted that he hasn't missed one single game yet in the NBA, which is an accomplishment conditioning-wise in itself. His schedule is already a test and training for his conditioning. If that doesn't prove he hasn't worked on his conditioning, I really don't know what will.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Well after Yao's promise he wont shave for 6 month if his team doesnt finish top 8th you would expect more from him. He is seven six him alone should have been able to carry china to a win instead of scoring 12 points. He needs to pick up his game to lead his team as he will have to do for the rockets along with tmac. Since there offense will run through him.</div>Expect more from him, that's acceptable. But what isn't acceptable is that you shouldn't knock him for scoring just 12, especially since that China wasn't favored to win the game. Against Spain, Yao faced frequent double and triple teams, not to mention very physical play in the post. Your hero, Allen Iverson, didn't seem to do better with way more scoring threats on his team. In the end, both China and the US lost, but who would receive most of the blame among Yao and Iverson? Certainly the latter.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post"> Your hero, Allen Iverson, didn't seem to do better with way more scoring threats on his team. In the end, both China and the US lost, but who would receive most of the blame among Yao and Iverson? Certainly the latter.</div>
    AI though did not make a bold promise or anything like that just a few days ago. Also considering the fact he has been blamed twice for things in the olympics with the critism that he recieved for missing practice (some what rightfully) and the critism for the entire team missing practice (very wrongfully) he recieves his fare share of blame.
     
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    ...I didnt even catch the game because i thought it was gunna b at 7:30 not 2:30...thats what the nba thing put anyway [​IMG]
     
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    7.30 GREECE TIME. dude, dju forget where the olynpics are being held? gawd, americans think the world revolves around them.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting SHADOW:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG] Spain beat China,83-58.Yao score only 12 points and pau 21.</div>
    have u really watched the game between china and spain?i guess not.stats do not tell everything, the damn chinese PG just could not control ball,and he doesnt know how to pass the ball to Yao in the right time.The chinese team's defense was totally useless, no one can actually denfense except Yao,that's why Yao got 5 fault in 27 mins. on the other hand, the Spain team all knew Yao is most man in the team of china, so Yao faced frequent double and triple teams,and chinese PG/SGs are totally useless, they can not even socre when they were wide open!!! That's why score only 12 points,because all the player in Spain team knew players outside can't socre, so they can fully concentrade on how to denfense yao. [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">AI though did not make a bold promise or anything like that just a few days ago. Also considering the fact he has been blamed twice for things in the olympics with the critism that he recieved for missing practice (some what rightfully) and the critism for the entire team missing practice (very wrongfully) he recieves his fare share of blame.</div>
    Yao didn't really promise anything. He just said that he won't shave if they don't make the playoffs, not that they will. It's more of a bet than a vow to me. Besides, does Iverson face frequent triple and double teams? I don't think so; but yet he scores only 15 , and blew a few easy floaters in the process. If you want me to compare their performances in their first games, I'd rather say Yao had a better game.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao didn't really promise anything. He just said that he won't shave if they don't make the playoffs, not that they will. It's more of a bet than a vow to me. Besides, does Iverson face frequent triple and double teams? I don't think so; but yet he scores only 15 , and blew a few easy floaters in the process. If you want me to compare their performances in their first games, I'd rather say Yao had a better game.</div>
    Lol did I ever mention in this thread I wanted to compare the two's first games?


    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Your hero, Allen Iverson, didn't seem to do better with way more scoring threats on his team. In the end, both China and the US lost, but who would receive most of the blame among Yao and Iverson? Certainly the latter.</div>
    Your the one who brought Iverson into the mix. Either way Yao had made a "bet" since you choose to call it that. So you would think he would come out and perform well despite double and triple coverages at time he is seven six he should be able to do better than 12 points. He even admitted in a article that he performed badely.

    Yeah AI doesnt get double and triple teammed at times. Though he is six feet yao is one foot six inches taller so he sort of needs to be double teamed since no one is his size. Then yeah AI only scores 15 points in the olympics. Yet if he scores 20 something he is called a ball hog so its probably the best since he is the point guard. Not to mention he has talents like duncan and lebron and melo on his team who does Yao have to share the ball with he is the unquestioned best player on the team.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Not to mention he has talents like duncan and lebron and melo on his team who does Yao have to share the ball with he is the unquestioned best player on the team.</div>

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    exactly.. Who is going to take the pressure off Yao? Whoever they play will just collapse on Yao in the post and dare the Chinese guards to shoot the ball. Same thing is happening with the USA team with Tim Duncan inside. At least the American guards know how to feed the post when he's open.

    Yao may be 7'6" but he needs teammates to set him up to score. It's not like he's going to take the ball at the top of the key, cross 2 people over and dunk over the other 3 players. Be realistic. The fact that Iverson is 6' is an advantage - he's got quickness, he's the one with the ball and he's the one who can break down defenses and create his own shots. Yao on the other hand, relies more on his teammates than Iverson does. He relies on them to get him the ball in a good spot and to take pressure off of him. The Chinese team won't be able to compete internationally until they develop some decent guards.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting johnny33:</div><div class="quote_post">[​IMG]

    exactly.. Who is going to take the pressure off Yao? Whoever they play will just collapse on Yao in the post and dare the Chinese guards to shoot the ball. Same thing is happening with the USA team with Tim Duncan inside. At least the American guards know how to feed the post when he's open.

    Yao may be 7'6" but he needs teammates to set him up to score. It's not like he's going to take the ball at the top of the key, cross 2 people over and dunk over the other 3 players. Be realistic. The fact that Iverson is 6' is an advantage - he's got quickness, he's the one with the ball and he's the one who can break down defenses and create his own shots. Yao on the other hand, relies more on his teammates than Iverson does. He relies on them to get him the ball in a good spot and to take pressure off of him. The Chinese team won't be able to compete internationally until they develop some decent guards.</div>
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    My point was completely missed though in your post because I was just stating why AI doesnt average 20 something points and why Yao should. Yao new the teammates he would have around him and the conditions he would be playing in by participating in the olympics and he choose to do so.

    He should be able to lead his team with his size and power. Look at shaq *waits for someone to say shaq is fat* Yao doesnt look big, but he is 300+ pounds while shaq is max 350 while listed at 320 yet he still uses his body to dominate opponents. Yao could do the same he has the talent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">americans think the world revolves around them.</div>

    I'm asian not american [​IMG]
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting dakeem1:</div><div class="quote_post">7.30 GREECE TIME. dude, dju forget where the olynpics are being held? gawd, americans think the world revolves around them.</div>

    Which game? cause the Esp vs China game was 7:30 in the morning pst time! lol not at night!
     

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