Well I guess Payton is quiting then. He was saying all season as soon as we win a title or this season is over I am out of here. After shaq was traded he reportably wanted a trade now he gets one and gives this kind of <font color="Red">*EDIT*</font> Payton should really be thankful to still have the oppurtunity to play for a historic franchise like the celtics. Payton has I believed lost confidence in his abilities why else would he think a payton pierce combo would not work. Payton has complained his whole career though so why should it change now. I seriously think he has what it takes to make a team he goes to a playoff threat if not a title contender even though he is past his prime. If he wants to act like this though he should retire mabye the league has had enough of Gary Payton. how long has he been in the league over a decade has he ever changed no and he never will. <font color="Blue">Please reframe from cursing.--Rudeezy</font>
well i feel payton. That was wrong what the lakes did to him. its a cruel business and everyone in the league shoul dlearn formt hese situations. hope everything works out for payton whether hes in or out of the L.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I guess Payton is quiting then. He was saying all season as soon as we win a title or this season is over I am out of here. After shaq was traded he reportably wanted a trade now he gets one and gives this kind of bull shit. Payton should really be thankful to still have the oppurtunity to play for a historic franchise like the celtics. Payton has I believed lost confidence in his abilities why else would he think a payton pierce combo would not work. Payton has complained his whole career though so why should it change now. I seriously think he has what it takes to make a team he goes to a playoff threat if not a title contender even though he is past his prime. If he wants to act like this though he should retire mabye the league has had enough of Gary Payton. how long has he been in the league over a decade has he ever changed no and he never will.</div> Well,if you are going to dis Payton for his actions you need to do the same for the Los Angeles Lakers organization. They went out of their way to make him feel like they wanted him there in order to get him to excercise the player option on his contract so he would stay in Lakers purple. Well he excercised his option and what happened? They used him in a trade. I know this is professional sports and trades happen but that was low and if I were Payton I would be highly pissed off as well. Mitch Kupchak gained his confidence and got him to re-up for one more season and then essentially lied and shipped him to Boston. Can't blame this on Payton,I think he's well within his rights in regards to his current attitude toward the whole deal. Like I posted in another thread,the Lakers got what they deserved.
The people who are upset that Boozer renigged on his agreement with the Cavs should also be upset that Laker management would trade Payton after he agreed to exercise his player option. Boozer deceived the Cavs, the Lakers deceived Payton. People who blame players everytime they complain are almost like bigots. Sometimes players need to voice their opinions when upper managements takes advantage of them and/or exploits them. If it weren't for the players then management be out of a job and would have to fine another line of work. Management needs to treat their players with respect also. Ownership should to be held accountable for wrong doing as well. In this case, the Lakers are totally to blame.
Payton has made extreme statements before. He wears his emotions on his sleeve. I suspect Boston will find a way to ship him off to the clippers or houston.
I don't like it. Sure, the Lakers may have misled him, but he was probably going to re-sign anyways. With his poor Playoff performance, I don't know how many teams would have offered him more than the Lakers had on the table. Still, this is a business. He signed a contract, of which Boston now owns the rights. His job is to play ball for the team who owns his rights, which is Boston. The most storied franchise in the league isn't good enough for him? Please. A Payton, Peirce, Welsh, LaFrentz, Blount starting 5 with West/Banks, Allen, Davis, Jefferson, Perkins off the bench would be contending for the division. And I hate that he's saying it's cause he doesn't want to move his family. Very convenient, but dirty using family as a cheap excuse. In the same breath, he is saying he would accept a trade to Houston or Minny!? Whatever.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Well I guess Payton is quiting then. He was saying all season as soon as we win a title or this season is over I am out of here. After shaq was traded he reportably wanted a trade now he gets one and gives this kind of bull <font color="Blue">EDIT</font>. </div> That paragraph is 100% true. Payton is a *Bleep*
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting celtfan:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't like it. Sure, the Lakers may have misled him, but he was probably going to re-sign anyways. With his poor Playoff performance, I don't know how many teams would have offered him more than the Lakers had on the table. Still, this is a business. He signed a contract, of which Boston now owns the rights. His job is to play ball for the team who owns his rights, which is Boston. The most storied franchise in the league isn't good enough for him? Please. A Payton, Peirce, Welsh, LaFrentz, Blount starting 5 with West/Banks, Allen, Davis, Jefferson, Perkins off the bench would be contending for the division. And I hate that he's saying it's cause he doesn't want to move his family. Very convenient, but dirty using family as a cheap excuse. In the same breath, he is saying he would accept a trade to Houston or Minny!? Whatever.</div> If this trade goes through, Payton would have played for four teams in the past two years. This is the same player who had played twelve straight seasons in Seattle. The reason why he signed with the Lakers was to win a championship. When he resigned w/ the Lakers I assume he still believed he could win a championship (this is before Shaq was traded). So to get traded to Boston, he would have no legitimate chance of winning a ring. You can say he is selfish, but at the time he signed his contract with the Lakers he was worth a lot more than the mid level exception. He didn't sign a big deal b/c he wanted to have a chance at the title. Payton had every right to be upset about Shaq being traded. Shaq gave the Lakers the best chance of winning. The Lakers decided that they didn't want to deal w/ an angry Payton so they traded him. You can call it business, I call it chicken sh*t. He would welcome a trade to Houston and Minnesota b/c they are also title contenders. Payton was done dirty just like the Cavaliers management. If you think that this wasn't the case then you are misinformed.
Well the Lakers did screw him,he would have opted out if he knew the Lakers were going to trade him. Never the less Payton should still know that this is a buisness and that any thing can happen. Boston wasnt a great team last year but they could do something with a vet pg like GP,I think that he should give Boston a chance and not just quit like this.
He does complain alot.... but he does have a good reason he did pick up and moved his family from seattle to la and one year later he has to pick up and move again... he's getting to old anyway if I was him I would go ahead and retire.
everything that Payton says is real...i feel for the guy...he feels disrespected...wouldnt u if u were in his shoes?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Iron Shiek:</div><div class="quote_post">You can say he is selfish, but at the time he signed his contract with the Lakers he was worth a lot more than the mid level exception. He didn't sign a big deal b/c he wanted to have a chance at the title. Payton had every right to be upset about Shaq being traded. Shaq gave the Lakers the best chance of winning. The Lakers decided that they didn't want to deal w/ an angry Payton so they traded him. You can call it business, I call it chicken sh*t.</div> Business, chicken sh*t, same thing. A job is a job is a job, and he works for the Celtics. I agree that he was disrespected by the Lakers, and he has every reason to be upset. That doesn't change the fact that, as an NBA player, he has a responsibility to play for Boston. How many of us have ever felt disrespected by a job? That's life, that's business. You move on, and fulfill your responsibilities. And besides, Boston, while not yet a championship contender, can make some noise this year, especially with Payton. He's not that old (36), and he can play hard for Boston, where he will get many oppurtunities, show the world he can still play, then sign another contract with the team of his choice. And yes, I do recognize that, as a Boston fan, my views are subjective. But seriously, the guy's got a job to do. That's the bottom line. I wish I could quit every job that I ever got upset at. Besides, if he's pissed at the Lakers, why screw the Celtics?
First of all any job you had you would have the right to choose it. How would you like to interview with a company alllooks good agree on a salary and hours what not and then come to work and find out you are going to another company? So quit the whole a job is a job is a job BS. The point is he had the freedom to go sign where ever he wanted, instead he re upped with the Lakers and they only used him because they where going to be over the cap and trades is the only way to acquire new players.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Quickness:</div><div class="quote_post">well i feel payton. That was wrong what the lakes did to him. its a cruel business and everyone in the league shoul dlearn formt hese situations. </div> I agree, I don't like him too much but he got the raw end of the deal.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting twinturbo:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree, I don't like him too much but he got the raw end of the deal.</div> Yes, however he isn't a good enough player to determine his future. Unlike the Tracy McGrady's, Shaq's, etc., Payton is just an average player and he's demanding more than he's worth. Let his mouth run, you'd think he'd know how the league runs. He's been here long enough and he should realize this was a business move, and he wasn't going to have a future with the Lakers. I don't like the fact that the top players are trying to change teams, but they are talented enough to have their wishes granted. Jason Kidd for example deserves to leave the Nets and he can complain all he wants. But Gary Payton - I don't think so.
Payton has the right to be mad he signed a contract with the lakers then they use him as trade bait come on people we would all be mad. I also rememebr Payton said he didnt want to move his family to the east coast so he really isnt crying at all. Boston is still rebuilding and i wouldnt want to be on the Celtics either not because they are a bad team but they have way to many people at the guard spot so why should payton want to go there knowing he has to share time with Delonte West and Marcus Banks to future good players in the league.
yeah i feel sorry for payton...having spent all those years in the nba dreaming of a championship then an oppurtunity comes along and he takes it only to be traded for some mediocre players....think about it
