<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Chinese officials reacted strongly to Yao's negative comments about his teammates Thursday, suggesting the NBA in the United States has corrupted their once "obedient child." The report hinted China may "consider tighter restrictions" on Chinese players who want to play in the NBA, like heralded up-and-comer Yi Jianlian, the 16-year-old who is seen as the next Yao. "The Chinese Basketball Association will consider more deeply and carefully about sending players to the NBA again," one report said. Yao was "an obedient child" with a "very good reputation," an official was quoted as saying. "Now, he has changed, he's more like an American, he dares to say anything."</div> Full Story When he ripped on the team I thought it was a good sign for the Rockets, what do you think, Yao becoming a Leader in 05'? Plus I thought it was a good read. <font color="Blue"><font size="1">Edited by Ice</font></font>
well, the truth hurts China...get some players who play with pride and honor...Yao is as unselfish a player as you can find and all he wants is for his teammates to show some pride and effort...thankfully he learned and presumed to score 39 the next game...
Yao was a sissy last year. Im just being real. But hey, if he is talkin trash, maybe he'll be much better next year. The passion to win makes a big difference. Guess we'll just wait and see
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Yao was "an obedient child" with a "very good reputation," an official was quoted as saying. "Now, he has changed, he's more like an American, he dares to say anything."</div>Yeah freedom is a b aint it...
This is utter shame to me. The Chinese government is really putting tight reins on its players. They need to understand that your people aren't born just to play in your league and national team. Yao Ming left the Chinese League so he could make a better living and fufil his own dream, which is right when his own country can't offer him enough money. When he left the CBA, he was forced to pay back 50% of his own rookie salary to fund the CBA, and was required to play for the Chinese National Team for we don't know how long. When he voiced out his own opinions after facing a terrible loss which was more his own teammates' fault than his own, he was reprimanded as disrespectable. After this, I'd really want him to pull a Wang Zhi-Zhi and not return to the national team.
I am deeply disappointed with the way Yao has acted in the Olympics. His violent reaction in the New Zealand game and his disparaging comments towards his teammates has shown me that Yao is no where near of being a leader. Yao should not rebuke his teammates for playing like quitters because he is also guilty of doing the same thing. Yao's defense was laughable. I saw Argentina scoring constantly on Yao Ming and on a specific play he was dunked on pretty bad. They made it seem like his height was not even a factor. Also, Yao's transition from defense to offense and vice-versa was incredibly slow. He would be the last one to set up in the offense and the last one on defense. This to me showed a lack of hustle and energy. Yao had an exceptionally good offensive game, but his overall performance was not great at all. Yao is definitely changing, but he is changing for the worst.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I am deeply disappointed with the way Yao has acted in the Olympics. His violent reaction in the New Zealand game and his disparaging comments towards his teammates has shown me that Yao is no where near of being a leader.</div>Sorry to break this to you, but those acts are what makes a leader. One of the things that made Steve Francis such a good leader was his aggresiveness. When Yao got dunked on by Amare last season, Steve was the one to stand up for Yao, throwing an elbow at Amare. When Yao got dunked on against New Zealand, it was very right to defend himself; after all, that guy was talking smack in his face. About his criticism towards teammates, what would you expect him to say? "Oh, guys, we played a great game, but try harder next time?" Hell, that would be very unleader-like. Jordan criticized his teammates, look where he was. Last off, the Rockets don't need Yao to be a leader. He is only 23 and has lots of time until he takes over a team.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post">Sorry to break this to you, but those acts are what makes a leader. One of the things that made Steve Francis such a good leader was his aggresiveness. When Yao got dunked on by Amare last season, Steve was the one to stand up for Yao, throwing an elbow at Amare.</div> I do agree that aggressiveness is an important aspect of being a leader, but there is a major difference between aggressiveness and being violent. Just because someone outplayed Yao Ming, does not give him the right to retaliate by physically attacking the person. I would rather see Yao Ming counter-back with another amazing play (Dunk, Block, etc). Physically attacking someone just because they outplayed you is not only poor sportmanship, it's a sign of weakness. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Trip:</div><div class="quote_post"> About his criticism towards teammates, what would you expect him to say? "Oh, guys, we played a great game, but try harder next time?" Hell, that would be very unleader-like. Jordan criticized his teammates, look where he was. Last off, the Rockets don't need Yao to be a leader. He is only 23 and has lots of time until he takes over a team.</div> MJ had a right to criticized his teammates because each games he would bust his butt to get that win. He played with heart and hustle. During that game, Yao Ming did not.If Yao is going to scruntize his teammates for playing poorly then he is a hyprocrite because he played poorly in that game as well. And Hyprocites don't make good leaders.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Einitials:</div><div class="quote_post">I do agree that aggressiveness is an important aspect of being a leader, but there is a major difference between aggressiveness and being violent. Just because someone outplayed Yao Ming, does not give him the right to retaliate by physically attacking the person. I would rather see Yao Ming counter-back with another amazing play (Dunk, Block, etc). Physically attacking someone just because they outplayed you is not only poor sportmanship, it's a sign of weakness.</div> I think you have your facts wrong. Firstly, he didn't simply criticize his teammates. He included himself in the criticism, by using the word "we." Surely, there's nothing wrong with him honestly being criticial of the way the whole team played, including himself? Should he just pretend like his team is playing the right way? No self-respecting athlete would do such a thing. Also, he didn't retaliate because he was dunked on. He retaliated because some guy on the other team started talking trash to him in his face. And its not like he was trying to really hurt him, he just shoved him as in "get out of my face." Big freakin' deal. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">MJ had a right to criticized his teammates because each games he would bust his butt to get that win. He played with heart and hustle. During that game, Yao Ming did not.If Yao is going to scruntize his teammates for playing poorly then he is a hyprocrite because he played poorly in that game as well. And Hyprocites don't make good leaders.</div> He isn't a hypocrite if he said "we" played horribly. And that's what he said.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post"> Also, he didn't retaliate because he was dunked on. He retaliated because some guy on the other team started talking trash to him in his face.</div> Trash talking is part of the game. It makes the game more competitve and exciting. Yao responded back in the wrong way. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post"> And its not like he was trying to really hurt him, he just shoved him as in "get out of my face." Big freakin' deal.</div> Did you see what he did? He pushed the guy to the ground. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting durvasa:</div><div class="quote_post"> He isn't a hypocrite if he said "we" played horribly. And that's what he said.</div> "I'm disappointed in my teammates," Yao said. "We gave up at the end of the game. I don't think some of my teammates cherish the honor to play for the country. ... Were they nervous? Or they would not take their responsibilities? We gave up easily every time we came across obstacles." Sounds like he putting most of the blame on his team. It would been cool if he said. "I'm disappointed in my teammates and myself," Yao said. "We gave up at the end of the game. I don't think some of my teammates and I cherish the honor to play for the country. ... Were we nervous? Or we would not take ourresponsibilities? We gave up easily every time we came across obstacles."
In my opinion this is great for Yao. I mean if I got dunked on and some guy bumps chest with me and talks mess, i would push him down too. In the NBA u gotta show ppl ure not gonna take any sh*t. Cuz if you dont, there just gonna keep coming at you over and over. Save all the respect for off the court, cuz u need an attitude to be great in the NBA.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting JuLiO-R-:</div><div class="quote_post">In my opinion this is great for Yao. I mean if I got dunked on and some guy bumps chest with me and talks mess, i would push him down too. In the NBA u gotta show ppl ure not gonna take any sh*t. Cuz if you dont, there just gonna keep coming at you over and over. Save all the respect for off the court, cuz u need an attitude to be great in the NBA.</div> I completely agree. Yao has been criticized for being soft in the past, and when he does show acts of aggression, he gets knocked on again? Some people just don't get satisfied.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Einitials:</div><div class="quote_post">Trash talking is part of the game. It makes the game more competitve and exciting. Yao responded back in the wrong way. Did you see what he did? He pushed the guy to the ground.</div> Yao is pretty big; it wouldn't take much from him for someone to fall to the ground. It's not like he took a swing at him or anything. People shove eachother all the time in sports. Particularly when there's trash talking going on. That's really not a big deal. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">"I'm disappointed in my teammates," Yao said. "We gave up at the end of the game. I don't think some of my teammates cherish the honor to play for the country. ... Were they nervous? Or they would not take their responsibilities? We gave up easily every time we came across obstacles." Sounds like he putting most of the blame on his team. It would been cool if he said.</div> It seems to me that he was being very easy on his team. And I'll note that he still said "we." Yes, he's disappointed in his teammates, as well he should be. They played horribly. Was it right for him to say this publicly to the media? Perhaps it would have been better for him to keep it "in the locker-room," but you have to realize that after a disappointing and frustating loss like that when the media rushes at you and asking about your thoughts, you're bound to say things in not the most diplomatic of ways. And, further, what he said about his teammates giving up at the end of the game is TRUE. Anybody could see that. And the rest was speculation ("I don't think ..."), which he has the right to do.
yao should try pulling a wang zhi-zhi and we'll just see how the chinese officials react... it's one thing to make wang sweat and not invite him to the national team, it's another thing to antagonize your best and most popular player who gives you the best chance to win gold in 2008. i hope yao takes a year off from the national team to rest, so these officials can realize how stupid their rules are. wang never said he wouldn't play for the team, he wanted to play in the summer leagues rather than practice for world championships. who can blame him? how much better are you going to be practicing with the scrubs on the national team?? as opposed to hungry players in summer league trying to land a job?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Einitials:</div><div class="quote_post">"I'm disappointed in my teammates," Yao said. "We gave up at the end of the game. I don't think some of my teammates cherish the honor to play for the country. ... Were they nervous? Or they would not take their responsibilities? We gave up easily every time we came across obstacles." Sounds like he putting most of the blame on his team. It would been cool if he said.</div> have you watched the game between China and Spain? he just trying to tell us the TRUTH.
Freedom of speech is something that has gotten to Yao. All the attention he has gotten in america with the media and being one of the main leaders of his team has made him a little tougher and more open to speak his mind. Yao has experenced winning here in the US when the rockets made the playoffs last year and he wants to keep that going be it in the states with the rockets or in the olympics with china he is tring to be a vocal leader now something that the rockets really need and the chinese team needs if there going to win. Now whats up with that comment that he is acting more like the americans? Some people may take that as an insult coming from china if that is what it is ment to be that is kind of f***** up after all the schedualing things that the nba has done to have nba games over in china in the pre season like last year with the clippers and sonics playing two games over there.
^wht arumour and Trip, I was always wondering why awng Zhi Zhi never showed back up to the nat'l team, wouldn't the gov't do something about it? and this all comes from Yao learning it from francis(just kidding, dont mean it seriously). BUt its a shame that the Chinese Gov't does this sorta stuff. He;s developed to be more confident andstnad up for himself, and he never really blamed it on his team, he said "we". its great for yao, and a shame for the chinese gov';t to be acting like this. China wantts players in the NBA, but their stringent rules result in this.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">and Trip, I was always wondering why awng Zhi Zhi never showed back up to the nat'l team, wouldn't the gov't do something about it?</div>Well, don't you come from China? Ask you parents. Wang never said he wanted to quit the team, he just maintained that he will train in the summer league and by himself in the US, rather than join the national team and train together. However, he never said that he won't join the team when the tournament comes around. The Chinese adminstration took it as a revolt and basically froze him out from there on. Wang was never arrested or anything because he was in the USA, but something tells me that something would be done to him if he was ever back in China.
Basically, if Wang tries to go back, China will deny him entrance and ship him out to anywhere other than China. I'm not sure if he'll be able to ever go back to China, but if he can, it won't be any time soon.
