Where Does Korver Fit In?

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  1. bbwAce

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    With the Sixers being stacked at the swingman spots, where does Korver fit in? Theres:

    Glenn Robinson
    John Salmons
    Kedrick Brown
    Greg Buckner
    Aaron McKie

    They say Iverson will be PG this year, so lets assume he is...that leaves Ollie as his backup...McKie and Robinson will start at SG and SF, barring a trade...their backups will likely be Salmons and Willie Green...Which leaves Korver, Brown and Buckner for spot minutes...is this how it will work or will Philly make a trade because I think Korver would be ideal as a sixth man/Dale Ellis-type gunner, but who will be left out?
     
  2. MarkCubanFan

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    I see Kyle as an 8th man more of a sixth man, but he should play ahead of buckner
     
  3. Courtking

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    I agree I think Korver should play in front of Kedrick Brown, Greg Buckner, and sooner or later I have to think of him as the new 6th man of the Sixers...In a couple of years when Mccie and Grob leave town, Korver and Iggy should make a nice duo at the SF position.
     
  4. AznxBaller

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    Greg Buckner, Kendrick Brown, and Kevin Ollie maybe will be traded, why else would Billy King stack the team with srubs? I know I maybe wrong so don't anyone take that statement too seriously. And yes, I see Korver starting before those three ever do.

    So the lineup probably will be:
    PG Iverson
    SG Mckie or Green
    SF Robinson
    PF Thomas
    C Dalembert

    The replacements:
    PG Salmons
    SG Mckie or Green, whichever one is not starting, or Ollie/Iggy
    SF Korver, then Brown/Ollie/Buckner/Iggy
    PF Williamson, or Skinner
    C Marc Jackson or Skinner

    Korver is either gonna be a sixth man or perhaps even a seventh. Sooner or later, he will become a guaranteed sixth man. He's a great shooter from inside the arc or outside of it, perfect for O'brien's type offense.
     
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    I have a distict feeling Korver will be packaged. HE is a young talnet plenty of teams woul like to have their hands on. I'm guessing theres a big trade coming up for a big name player who Iverson won't be afraid to pass to.
     
  6. iversonfan3

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    jesus crist aaron noway korver will be a sixth man......he can do NOTHING except shoot 3s.....he cant defend,he cant make a layup,he cant do ANYTHING CEPT SHOOT, well i guess everybody no that but if everybody no that y wud u put him at the 6th man spot,rite now we still have lil dog so iggy will be our 6th man and willie green is starting not aarno mckie.

    sammy d/mark jackson
    kenny thomas/skinner
    lil dog/iggy
    willie/mckie/
    ai/ollie

    and watever happen to brown or k squared dont matter cuz they both can play sf and sg eventho they're called SF'S but u no jimo hes gonna play a good shooting combo on the court so trust me korver will get time and brown wont get as much time
     
  7. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">he can do NOTHING except shoot 3s.....he cant defend,he cant make a layup,he cant do ANYTHING CEPT SHOOT</div>

    Well, Peja fits in those descriptions above, but why is he so sucsseful?

    Anyways, Jim O'Brien has big plans for Kyle Korver. With the style of play that Jim O'Brien is aiming for, Kyle Korver is going to be a vital part to this team off the bench. They're going to need someone to spread the floor out so they can get into the open court therefore that will get the Sixers into that transition game.

    Seeing as this team is loaded at the SF position, spot up minutes is the obvious choice for the likes of Korver and Iguodala. With Glenn Robinson on the decline and his lackluster for playing defense he may see limited minutes. But I'm honestly baffled on how Korver and Iguodala are going to fit in.

    But with the Sixers possibly in the process of making another move to sign Kutulay, Greg Buckner and John Salmons may be on the move. I still have mixed feelings about this possibly move, but if we do sign Kutulay and move Salmons and Bucker to another team, this will defiantly open the door for Korver and Igoudala playing time.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting AznxBaller:</div><div class="quote_post">
    The replacements:
    PG Salmons
    SG Mckie or Green, whichever one is not starting, or Ollie/Iggy
    SF Korver, then Brown/Ollie/Buckner/Iggy
    PF Williamson, or Skinner
    C Marc Jackson or Skinner

    </div>

    First of all, Ollie is a PG and Buckner is more of a SG. And it's kind of hard to compare the remaining three of Korver, Brown, and Iggy at the SF spot because they are very different especially Korver. While Brown and Iggy are athletic dunker types, Korver is a three point speacialist so they will be used in different situations. Sometimes Korver will get a lot of minutes, sometimes he will not. Unless he has dramatically changed his game during the off season, he will basically be used in the same way he was last year - as a three point shooter.

    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">
    Well, Peja fits in those descriptions above (he can do NOTHING except shoot 3s.....he cant defend,he cant make a layup,he cant do ANYTHING CEPT SHOOT) but why is he so sucsseful?
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    Becuase peja is not just a three point shooter- he makes a lot of backdoor cuts, moves off the ball well, can create his shots, and positions himself very well offensively. Korver, while being a good shooter, does not yet have the basketball IQ to do those things. Thus his offensive game is not at its full potential.
     
  9. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting subrock:</div><div class="quote_post">Becuase peja is not just a three point shooter- he makes a lot of backdoor cuts, moves off the ball well, can create his shots, and positions himself very well offensively. Korver, while being a good shooter, does not yet have the basketball IQ to do those things. Thus his offensive game is not at its full potential.</div>

    I see what you're saying. And I hope you don't think that I believe Kyle Korver is at the same level as Peja Stojakovic, because he's not. And it's quite obvious that Stojakovic is at a completely different level from Korver, and which is why he can do such things as moving around with ball, backdoor cuts and so on.

    However, Peja cannot create his own shot. Similar to Korver, most of Peja shots come off of assists. Neither one of them can take anyone off the dribble or do anything to create a shot for themselves. Alike, Samuel Dalembert if Kyle Korver can develop a basketball player mentality they can turn out to be great players. They would be able to be affective in other aspects of the game besides they're natural ability of being affective at they're specialties such as defense and long range. To break things down, Korver is somewhat of a minature version of Stojakovic.

    Well, down the road when Korver matures into more of a basketball and his jump-shot improves, so will other aspects of his game become more to his arsenal similar to Peja Stojakovic. Example: Moving without the ball
     
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    Korver will come off the bench and will get a good amount of minutes. I'm not gonna say who will replace because I think JO will just used him when he feels the need to hit some 3's or just even use him to draw the defense out and open up the lane. I also see him running on the wing of a break and stepping out and catching a pass from AI to pop the 3.
     
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    Korver is a good shooter, thats it. His defense isnt that great, neither is his passing but his shooting makes up for all of that so he will get minutes. He reminds me a lot of Peja Stajakovic.

    Also Kedrick Brown can play SG, so he can be third string there or third string at SF either way I dont think he's gonna find minutes until Big Dog is gone. Arent you guys worried about Iggy's development behin all of these guys?
     
  12. Avery

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Korver is a good shooter, thats it. His defense isnt that great, neither is his passing but his shooting makes up for all of that so he will get minutes. He reminds me a lot of Peja Stajakovic.</div>

    I wouldn?t really say that. His shot somewhat makes up for some of the other aspect of the game that he lacks, but he really can't handle the ball nor play defense. If his shot would ever become as good as Stojakovic shot or even better that?s when we can make the case that Korver shot makes up for the rest. But as of right now, I don?t think we could say that just yet.
     
  13. B.e.

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    Korver doesnt really have an all around game but we shouldnt have a oproblem with him,its always nice to have someone on your team that can just strait up shoot,I say that we keep him active in the rotation I think he could be a Larry Bird TYPE player if given the chance and maybe some time,all he has to do is put work into the other aspects of the game and he could be a gfeat player some day.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I think he could be a Larry Bird TYPE player</div>

    A Larry Bird type? We can make argument about his shot potentially being as good as Larry Bird, but that's about it. Larry Bird was a basketball genius. Even though he wasn't fast on his feet, his inteillegence of the way basketball is suppose to be played made him fast on his feet. Bird read plays as if he was the opposing teams coach themselves. He also rebound the ball, and pass the ball exceptionally well.

    And those are just some of the many traits that Bird possessed that made him the Legend he is. And Korver at the apex of his career or not, the fact is that he would never be able to posses that type of greatness.
     
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    Exactally,what I am saying is Korver doesnt have any atleticsm and he isnt fast on his feet.But maybe he can learn to be that hard nosed type player like Larry Bird was,I am not saying he will be anywhere near as good, just that type of player who gives 100% all the time and that knows basketball.
     
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    Kyle Korver has had to convince coaches (and fans) that he deserved to play all the way through highschool and college. Now, he is going to have to do it again. And ... he will. He works hard and that will do it for him.
     
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    I think that after we get some trash off our team through waivers and trades players like Buckner, Robinson, and Brown he will fit into a roll that will suet him very well as a spark pulg off the bench sort of what Wally was for minnesota in the playoffs and most of last season. The same type of player Wagner is at this point a guy who can give you quick points and scoring off the bench.

    Korver is one dementional, but like Avery stated Peja also fits that discription, but in Peja's case his teammates can creat him open shots withthere great passing while in our team we are mostly guys who will run and defend we dont have the best passers even AI will struggle do to having the ball in his hands at the point spot so much li8ke he showed in the Olympics.
     

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