On 950 Sports Radio in Philidelphia Redd D-Mase Marcus Haislip 4 Zach Randolph Derek Anderson 2005 1st rounder Supposedly it's been talked about for a couple of weeks. So do any of you Blazers or Bucks fans like or dis-like rumor. Thoughts???
From the Bucks' point of view I'd hate it, but love it if I were a Blazer fan. Redd proved to be one of the best scorers in the league last year, and although Randolph showed the same ability, I still feel Redd is more valuable. Zach has had some off-court trouble in the past as well as this recent thing going on, whereas I cannot recall Redd ever having any kind of trouble. I've always been a huge fan of Redd ( since his college days ) and I just love the way he plays. Plus the Bucks will be giving up Mason on top of that for a bad contract (sort of overpaid) in Anderson. That doesn't favor the Bucks either IMO, so I don't see any positives except low post scoring from Randolph. I really don't expect it to go through because of the question marks that lay in Randolph, and I just can't see the Bucks giving up their all-star for that.
this would be a solid trade for both teams imo. Portland i feel is getting the short end of the stick, if only because Randolph is a quality big man and we all know how rare those are. I love Redd and his game but what it boils down to is that he's a shooter.. He will never have the kind of consistency that Randolph can due to their types of games.. And although this trade seems so unlikely (Redd being traded after having his best season ever last year?) it would make a little sense for the Bucks, since it's fairly apparent that they arent going to make it to the finals with their current team. For the Blazers it would be a PR move.. After all they did lose out on good value with a couple of the other jailblazers so it wouldnt be a complete surprise if they traded Randolph..
It works money-wise, but I think that Redd is too good for the Bucks to give away. Milwaukee trades: SF Marcus Haislip (3.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 8.5 minutes) SF Desmond Mason (14.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.9 apg in 30.9 minutes) SG Michael Redd (21.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 36.8 minutes) Milwaukee receives: SG Derek Anderson (13.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 4.5 apg in 35.5 minutes) PF Zach Randolph (20.1 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 37.9 minutes) Change in team outlook: -5.4 ppg, +3.0 rpg, and +2.2 apg. Portland trades: SG Derek Anderson (13.6 ppg, 3.6 rpg, 4.5 apg in 35.5 minutes) PF Zach Randolph (20.1 ppg, 10.5 rpg, 2.0 apg in 37.9 minutes) Portland receives: SF Marcus Haislip (3.0 ppg, 1.7 rpg, 0.1 apg in 31 games) SF Desmond Mason (14.4 ppg, 4.4 rpg, 1.9 apg in 82 games) SG Michael Redd (21.7 ppg, 5.0 rpg, 2.3 apg in 82 games) Change in team outlook: +5.4 ppg, -3.0 rpg, and -2.2 apg. TRADE ACCEPTED Due to Milwaukee and Portland being over the cap, the 15% trade rule is invoked. Milwaukee and Portland had to be no more than 115% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I think the Bucks would be getting cheated out of this. Randolph is in legal trouble and most likely always will be. And there going to give him up for one of the best shooters in the game, and a rising star. That would be a bad move.
Me as a Buck fan and a D-Mase fan I would hate this trade. We are getting cheated. Redd is a really great player who could possibly be in the MVP canidates in a few years, and Mason is a great role-player and could maybe do something really good if he is given the all-time starting job, and Haislip is nothing really. I would hate this trade for the Bucks.
i like this trade for both teams. I've always thought portlant needed a slasher that could cut and draw fouls such as mase. so form that point of view i love this trade. And i think that the bucks need a consistent big man in the post. for years to come. also does anyone have or know where any links to this story are?
i think this trade sucks for both sides, i hope it's a rumor and only a rumor, i like seeing redd in a bucks jersey and randolph in a blazers jersey. I hope they stay with those teams because that's where they became good. But randolph would tear up the east.. I really like derek anderson ever since he was with the spurs, but i don't know.. Basically the teams will stay the same their offense and approach to the game will change, but at the end their records would be pretty similar, bucks bottom half in the east and blazers just out of the playoffs.
I don't like this trade at all, because I'm a blazers fan. It's been proven that you need a big man to compete in the West, and Randolph is that big man that can help the Blazers compete. He's a 22-11 type player for the next few years. Abdur-Rahim is not a sure thing after this season, and he's not a guy that can carry a team as proven in a Vancouver and Atlanta. A Redd-Shareef combo would be nice, but I don't believe it's enough.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting tradebark:</div><div class="quote_post">this would be a solid trade for both teams imo. Portland i feel is getting the short end of the stick, if only because Randolph is a quality big man and we all know how rare those are. </div> really? i disagree. a quality CENTER is a rare thing, but a good power forward isnt exactly rare. there are LOTS of good pf's in the leage...some teams even have two...like portland i dont like this trade for portland, they are giving up z-bo to start reef when z-bo is clearly the better player especially defensively when playing in the west, thats what the blazers will need...someone who can defend against the duncans, nowitzki's, brands, and kg's. z-bo isnt exactly a good defender, but he's DPOY compared to reef, the human siv
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Banks:</div><div class="quote_post">I don't like this trade at all, because I'm a blazers fan. It's been proven that you need a big man to compete in the West, and Randolph is that big man that can help the Blazers compete. He's a 22-11 type player for the next few years. Abdur-Rahim is not a sure thing after this season, and he's not a guy that can carry a team as proven in a Vancouver and Atlanta. A Redd-Shareef combo would be nice, but I don't believe it's enough.</div> But we have Sareef,this trade can save the Blazers at least 12 mil',i would even throw Bassy and those 2 russians if i were Nash...
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Rod:</div><div class="quote_post">But we have Sareef,this trade can save the Blazers at least 12 mil',i would even throw Bassy and those 2 russians if i were Nash...</div> It might be decent for one season, because I do not see him coming back for the following year. Their aren't any good PF's out there, except for Walker, the 2001 class which consists of Gasol and the Blazers own Randolph. Filling the PF void will be a tough task if this trade actually happens.
ehhh I don't like this deal as a Bucks fan. Randolph is a great player, but the legal problems and I wouldn't be all that thrilled with DA starting at SG. This would be a big PR hit because both Dez and Mike are fan favorites...this trade won't happen.
I dont think Zach will be involved in any trade from the Blazer point of view they have said numerous times he is untouchable or as close as it comes to being that. The Blazers dont need any more guards they need talented big men with reef wanting out it would make no sence to trade your future zach away for reef who is not really liking the franchise right now and in the last year of his deal. Then both Redd and Mason have been made bucks captins I dont think they will trade away two captins and fan favorites. I think that they will probably not do this trade it does not benifet either teams cause. Though I am not completely ignoring this rumor as the bucks have a history of trading away franchise players (ray, cassel, and robinson) and some how always coming out ok.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting gmanspack:</div><div class="quote_post">ehhh I don't like this deal as a Bucks fan. Randolph is a great player, but the legal problems and I wouldn't be all that thrilled with DA starting at SG. This would be a big PR hit because both Dez and Mike are fan favorites...this trade won't happen.</div> I agree. being a bucks fan...i totally hate this trade its crap for the bucks. its horrible even if we get the blazers 1st round pick. Redd is tons better then DA, not to mention younger, and cheaper. Randolph is good young sf/pf, but hes got off court problems. i just dont see this happening. harris is a smart man, he wouldnt trade our all star Mike Redd, like ray, sam, and robinson were.
I changed my mind, at first i thought it was a bad trade for both teams, but i still hope this is just a rumor, but the blazers really get the goods out of the deal because i forgot that they could start reef at power forward, the only reason he doesn't like portland is because he isn't starting. If reef gets more minutes = happier player. the blazers would have a really good lineup if this trade ever goes down (which i highly doubt)
trade reef, keep randolph : problems off the court for randolph are not sitting well with management, but randolph is a much better player trade randolph, keep reef : reef sucks defensively - trust me, I watched him here in vancouver and he can't guard anyone.. he may score 20ppg but his man will score 25..
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting dj_premium_plus:</div><div class="quote_post">really? i disagree. a quality CENTER is a rare thing, but a good power forward isnt exactly rare. there are LOTS of good pf's in the leage...some teams even have two...like portland i dont like this trade for portland, they are giving up z-bo to start reef when z-bo is clearly the better player especially defensively when playing in the west, thats what the blazers will need...someone who can defend against the duncans, nowitzki's, brands, and kg's. z-bo isnt exactly a good defender, but he's DPOY compared to reef, the human siv</div> Stick Randolph in the east and he may as well be a Center. I mean this is a guy who is INCREDIBLY talented offensively and simply due to the fact that he's a big man will put up numbers pretty consistently. I wouldn't be surprised at all if he managed to average 25+ PPG as a Buck. IMO Ratliff can do a decent job of making up for defensive lapses (wouldnt he be the one covering the Duncans and KG's of the league anyway?), but nobody is really arguing that Shareef is a better player than Zach--of course he's not. Thing is though, Randolph is worth a lot more in trade.. Redd would work miracles for the Blazers simply because they could spread the floor really well..
