If the Sixers were up 83-86 to the Lakers with 3.4 seconds left who would we put on Kobe to try and stop him,or anybody that is? IN the past Eric Snow would probally have been guarding the player expected to shoot but who will now?I am thinking Andre Iguodala could be our best bet, but he might not be able to step up and guard the best player in crunch time. I would say we go with a big line up and put KT on the teams best scorer unless they are just bigger then him,he is quick enough to guard a player like Kobe when you know they have to shoot. What do you guys think?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Silky Smooth:</div><div class="quote_post">If the Sixers were up 83-86 to the Lakers with 3.4 seconds left who would we put on Kobe to try and stop him,or anybody that is? IN the past Eric Snow would probally have been guarding the player expected to shoot but who will now?I am thinking Andre Iguodala could be our best bet, but he might not be able to step up and guard the best player in crunch time. I would say we go with a big line up and put KT on the teams best scorer unless they are just bigger then him,he is quick enough to guard a player like Kobe when you know they have to shoot. What do you guys think?</div> Allen Iverson would guard Kobe tight if he knew that there wasnt much time left....When he wants to and plays hard enough...he'll get the job done. I know he couldnt probably block Kobe but he could sure put that hand in his face and stop him from seeing the basket to make the shot. Iverson and Kobe are the 2 best players in the league IMO....i love seeing them in games guarding each other and making shots on each other. They both would be a duo i would love to see on a team also. But when it comes down to a last second shot....Allen Iverson would be there to stop it from happening.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">IN the past Eric Snow would probally have been guarding the player expected to shoot but who will now?</div> Other that Eric Snow ability of taking care of the ball that?s yet another factor in which we will be missing him. He was our best perimeter defender, and Kobe Bryant even admitted as Snow doing the best job containing him. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I would say we go with a big line up and put KT on the teams best scorer unless they are just bigger then him,he is quick enough to guard a player like Kobe when you know they have to shoot.</div> That's one of the last players I would go with. Kenny Thomas lacks mobility to guard a silky smooth player like Kobe. Thomas size would somewhat give him an advantage, but his footwork isn't good enough to guard and keep up with the likes of Kobe. Who should be placed on Kobe? I say Corliss Williamson. As he demonstrated in the Finals, he can contain Kobe. I'm not saying that he could hold Kobe down to 20 Points, but he does a good job containing him. However, he plays over aggressive with Kobe and gets into foul trouble often quickly. But with size he's able to post Kobe up as he also demonstrated in the Finals, and this could lead to him drawing fouls again a player like Kobe. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Allen Iverson would guard Kobe tight if he knew that there wasnt much time left....When he wants to and plays hard enough...he'll get the job done. I know he couldnt probably block Kobe but he could sure put that hand in his face and stop him from seeing the basket to make the shot.</div> Agreed. I think Allen Iverson could do a decent job on him in crunch time. With Allen Iverson quickness we wouldn't have to worry about ball penetration. Iverson in a way could put a hold on Kobe in terms of Kobe taking it to the rim. But as for an isolation game one on one, when it comes down to taking a shot, I believe Iverson would do fairly well. Kobe handle wouldn't affect Iverson much because Iverson footwork is pretty good and as we all know he?s not a stranger to any fancy dribbling. So basically Iverson would do fairly well. However, this would ONLY be for crunch time. There is no way in hell we could ever depend on Iverson to guard players like Kobe or a Pierce on a consistent basis.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">Other that Eric Snow ability of taking care of the ball that?s yet another factor in which we will be missing him. He was our best perimeter defender, and Kobe Bryant even admitted as Snow doing the best job containing him. That's one of the last players I would go with. Kenny Thomas lacks mobility to guard a silky smooth player like Kobe. Thomas size would somewhat give him an advantage, but his footwork isn't good enough to guard and keep up with the likes of Kobe. Who should be placed on Kobe? I say Corliss Williamson. As he demonstrated in the Finals, he can contain Kobe. I'm not saying that he could hold Kobe down to 20 Points, but he does a good job containing him. However, he plays over aggressive with Kobe and gets into foul trouble often quickly. But with size he's able to post Kobe up as he also demonstrated in the Finals, and this could lead to him drawing fouls again a player like Kobe. Agreed. I think Allen Iverson could do a decent job on him in crunch time. With Allen Iverson quickness we wouldn't have to worry about ball penetration. Iverson in a way could put a hold on Kobe in terms of Kobe taking it to the rim. But as for an isolation game one on one, when it comes down to taking a shot, I believe Iverson would do fairly well. Kobe handle wouldn't affect Iverson much because Iverson footwork is pretty good and as we all know he?s not a stranger to any fancy dribbling. So basically Iverson would do fairly well. However, this would ONLY be for crunch time. There is no way in hell we could ever depend on Iverson to guard players like Kobe or a Pierce on a consistent basis.</div> I have to disagree with you on that one.....I think hes played very well "D' in the past on players like Kobe and Pierce. You honestly dont think Iverson is in Kobe and Pierces League. There all in the same league IMO because they all do very well and when they play each other....they seem to have almost the same amount of points. In the Finals....Kobe and Iverson guarded each other alot if Fisher wasnt in...and Iversons point averages was in the 30s as Kobes was also. Now i might be able to say this....Kobe cant guard Iverson good...and Iverson cant guard Kobe good either....They both score on each other like crazy....Kobe and Iverson are 2 players that i like the most and I think there both soon to be HOFs and great players in future years.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">I have to disagree with you on that one.....I think hes played very well "D' in the past on players like Kobe and Pierce. You honestly dont think Iverson is in Kobe and Pierces League. There all in the same league IMO because they all do very well and when they play each other....they seem to have almost the same amount of points. In the Finals....Kobe and Iverson guarded each other alot if Fisher wasnt in...and Iversons point averages was in the 30s as Kobes was also. Now i might be able to say this....Kobe cant guard Iverson good...and Iverson cant guard Kobe good either....They both score on each other like crazy....Kobe and Iverson are 2 players that i like the most and I think there both soon to be HOFs and great players in future years.</div> It's doesn?t matter who is better than who, or who's in who's league, the fact is that Allen Iverson is an undersized player that cannot guard the likes of Pierce and Bryant throughout an NBA season. Having around the same PPG average is something completely different. That has nothing to do with a player size and stature and what they're able to do on the defensive end. And what's that with Iverson guarding Kobe? You almost rarely saw Iverson guard Kobe in the NBA Finals. Snow was the primary perimeter defender when it came down to defending Kobe. If anything George Lynch was probably 2nd in command to guard Kobe, so I don't where you got the Iverson guarding Kobe thing from. However, Kobe did guard Iverson at times, but that still doesn?t have to do with Iverson being able to guard a player like Kobe on a daily basis. Anyways, you have to come up with a better logic. No offense, but you?re logic was horrible in terms of arguing a player defensive ability.
If it would be Kobe then I would put Allen on him as Kobe has missed a lot of shots against Allen in the past (Kobe missed a lot in 2001 finals when he was playing against Allen on occasions) If it would be Tracy McGrady then I would use Kenny Thomas on T-Mac,I remember well that when we acquired Kenny from the Rockets and few weeks later the Sixers played the Magic and we had problems stopping Tracy the whole game but then Larry Brown used Kenny on Tracy in the 4th quarter and we came away with the win.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">If it would be Kobe then I would put Allen on him as Kobe has missed a lot of shots against Allen in the past (Kobe missed a lot in 2001 finals when he was playing against Allen on occasions)</div> But how long was that? That was like 3 Years ago? Things has changed, Kobe has changed. I'm sure Kobe would be able knock down majority of his shots, if Allen Iverson were to guard him throughout the whole game. Kobe in a way has mastered the way basketball is suppose to be played. However, he's not playing the way it's suppose to be played yet but he understands how to play the game. Putting Allen Iverson wouldn't be much of a problem for him; if anything he would want Iverson to guard him throughout the whole game. However, putting Iverson on him at crunch time is a completely different thing, but having Iverson on Kobe throughout the whole game isn?t the best idea.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">I have to disagree with you on that one.....I think hes played very well "D' in the past on players like Kobe and Pierce. You honestly dont think Iverson is in Kobe and Pierces League. There all in the same league IMO because they all do very well and when they play each other....they seem to have almost the same amount of points. In the Finals....Kobe and Iverson guarded each other alot if Fisher wasnt in...and Iversons point averages was in the 30s as Kobes was also. Now i might be able to say this....Kobe cant guard Iverson good...and Iverson cant guard Kobe good either....They both score on each other like crazy....Kobe and Iverson are 2 players that i like the most and I think there both soon to be HOFs and great players in future years.</div> Honestly look at the stats AI could play great d, but to guard players that are 6 or 8 inches taller than him on a consistant bases would be to dig our own grave. That would be like, putting a player like Artest on Shaq and saying stop him. Although Artest is the league defensive player of the year his size would put him at a disadvantage. Anyway to answer the original topic I would say we depend on our all star player for that one, but also we would double team the player tossing someone like Iggy in there or someone who should be guarding a player that can not shoot. We can not depend on a player like Thomas because he may get crossed over or Dalembert because he does not have the speed. We are still looking for that defensive player and I think until we find him it is a team effort toi stop those players.
Ok but what Im sayin is that Iverson cant guard Kobe worth a crap and Kobe cant guard Iverson worth a crap either....Kobe is a great Defender but when it comes down to Iversons offense and crossovers...Kobe cant handle that....and as for Kobe...hes taller and stronger so either way there both gonna score no matter what. And also....Iverson could take Kobe to the hoop using his speed and ballhandling skills but Kobe on the other side can just free himself up for jumpers or attacking the hoop himself. Both are 2 of the best one-on-one players in the league.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">Ok but what Im sayin is that Iverson cant guard Kobe worth a crap and Kobe cant guard Iverson worth a crap either....Kobe is a great Defender but when it comes down to Iversons offense and crossovers...Kobe cant handle that....and as for Kobe...hes taller and stronger so either way there both gonna score no matter what. And also....Iverson could take Kobe to the hoop using his speed and ballhandling skills but Kobe on the other side can just free himself up for jumpers or attacking the hoop himself. Both are 2 of the best one-on-one players in the league.</div> Actually although AI has good crossovers he cant get past Kobe with them every time. Its like your little animated gif he got past Jordan with a crossover that time, but not every time the two faced each other. So basically Kobe would win that mtahcup just because of the size and strength factor.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually although AI has good crossovers he cant get past Kobe with them every time. Its like your little animated gif he got past Jordan with a crossover that time, but not every time the two faced each other. So basically Kobe would win that mtahcup just because of the size and strength factor.</div> I agree with the fact that AI cant get past him everytime...but same goes for Kobe also....Kobe cant get shots on AI everytime either because AI has the ability to rip Kobe so Kobe has to shoot the ball quick unless he passes it out to someone like Odom or somethin. As for them facing each other one-on-one...Ive already said that both score the exact same amount of points almost every time they play each other....like in the Finals Iversons average was like in the 30s and Kobes was in the high 20s...their averages are close enough....in a real one-on-one match on a court going to like 10 by ones or something.....nobody knows who would win outta Iverson and Kobe because Iverson is quick to the hoop and can steal the ball but Kobe is strong and can hit jumpers. So no one really knows who can win in a true game of one-on-one.
Avery,did I say that I would put Allen on Kobe for the entire game? No,I didn't,It would be a very stupid thing.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Martin:</div><div class="quote_post">Avery,did I say that I would put Allen on Kobe for the entire game? No,I didn't,It would be a very stupid thing.</div> Exactly....But what ive been tryin to say is....Would u put Kobe on Iverson the whole game? I know i sure wouldnt....that would be a mistake because Iverson scores on Kobe like crazy. Kobe cannot take him in the paint. Once Iverson drives to the hoop Kobe isnt fast enough to guard him so he lets Shaq do his business....Ive watched many games where this has actually happened. Kobe cant guard Iverson and Iverson cant guard Kobe because both of them are unstoppable when facing each other....simple as that.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswerIsAi3:</div><div class="quote_post">I agree with the fact that AI cant get past him everytime...but same goes for Kobe also....Kobe cant get shots on AI everytime either because AI has the ability to rip Kobe so Kobe has to shoot the ball quick unless he passes it out to someone like Odom or somethin. As for them facing each other one-on-one...Ive already said that both score the exact same amount of points almost every time they play each other....like in the Finals Iversons average was like in the 30s and Kobes was in the high 20s...their averages are close enough....in a real one-on-one match on a court going to like 10 by ones or something.....nobody knows who would win outta Iverson and Kobe because Iverson is quick to the hoop and can steal the ball but Kobe is strong and can hit jumpers. So no one really knows who can win in a true game of one-on-one.</div> Actually do to AI's lack of size Kobe just rise up and hit a jumper over him any time he wants while the jumper is not a 100% shot that goes in every time it is more effect way to get points shooting a jumper than tring to cross a guy over every time because the guy can recover quickly and still block your shot. I am a AI fan and have no respect for Kobe, but Kobe would win in a one on one matchup just because of the size difference. A lot of AI's steals come from double teams and pressure which are a factor do to him and his teammates in a one on one game its just him so IDK how many steals he would get.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post">Actually do to AI's lack of size Kobe just rise up and hit a jumper over him any time he wants while the jumper is not a 100% shot that goes in every time it is more effect way to get points shooting a jumper than tring to cross a guy over every time because the guy can recover quickly and still block your shot. I am a AI fan and have no respect for Kobe, but Kobe would win in a one on one matchup just because of the size difference. A lot of AI's steals come from double teams and pressure which are a factor do to him and his teammates in a one on one game its just him so IDK how many steals he would get.</div> Exactly...no one knows how many steals he would get...I know he would get some thats for sure against Kobe because Iverson is quicker than Kobe and Kobe really doesnt have great ballhandling skills either....as for Kobes jumpers...Yes that might give him an advantage but Iverson also has a good jump shot from certain spots and due to Iversons speed i think he could easily take Kobe every time...but like i said who knows? No one knows if Kobe would win or if Iverson would win because they both score on each other basket by basket and like ive said...Ive watched games before where Iverson drives past Kobe and Kobe lets Shaq try and guard Iverson in the paint but if Iverson doesnt get past Shaq...he usually passes it to the Open C which is Dalembert or should i say someone like Mutombo in the Finals....Its just that nobody knows who would win.... Iverson or Kobe? We may never know :thumbsdow
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Avery,did I say that I would put Allen on Kobe for the entire game? No,I didn't,It would be a very stupid thing.</div> Well, it seems as if there was a misunderstanding. I just said what I thought about all of this. To clear it up, all that happen was that I assumed that TheAnswerIsAi3 said it would be wise if Iverson defended Kobe throughout the whole game, which I obviously thought didn't make sense. But, basically this is all I had to say about you're quote Martin. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">But how long was that? That was like 3 Years ago? Things has changed, Kobe has changed.</div>
