Now, don't get me wrong, I'd love to have Jason Kidd on the Dallas Mavericks! He's probably the best guy for the job. ... but that, my fellow Mavs fans, is in a world where everyone is Peter Pan and where money plays a factor in none of our decisions. -------------------------- Here's the story on Jason Kidd's contract: Whats left of it? $90,420,000! Thats a huge amount of money... As time goes by, that contract becomes a monster... A huge monster that brings Jason the sum of $21,372,000 in the final year of the deal. How old is he at that time? He's 36 years old. Battered up knees don't heal with age for a player over 30 and his trade value will definitley plummet seeing as he makes Shaq-type money when he's an old man (by NBA standards). You might say "Mark Cuban? Cap room? They don't belong in the same sentence...". It may seem that way, but when you look at what he's done in the past, he hasn't really made any stupid decisions with his money. He makes sure that doesn't happen. Plus, what if the Mavs are in a really bad situation in 2007, 2008, or 2009? You're stuck with nearly a 20 million dollar guaranteed contract that would probably be impossible to move. ------------------------------------- ... and after all of this info going against the suggestion of going after Jason, some of you still might like the possibility of getting him. I'm fine with that. Lets take a look at this past summer... Free agency... Steve Nash. What were the reasons for not matching his contract the Suns offered that would get him an average of over 10 million a year over 6 years (6 years, $65 million)? Well... Age. Bad knees. Fear that since he really doesn't play 35 minutes per game now that he'd be a mess later on. Well, atleast thats what Cuban seemed to say in his blog. He let a part of the big 3 leave for nothing in fear of overpaying this player that, in the future, might not be able to play to the ability he should when getting paid that money. So after doing all this... He gets Jason Kidd? Correct me if I'm wrong, but thats contradicting himself multiplied by 2. I know J.Kidd's bad knees (I know, I'm saying that alot...) don't keep him out for the whole year or anything, but they just can't be ignored as a potential problem. ----------------------------- I want to know what you guys think of the possibility of getting Jason. I'm a Mavs fan and I want to know other's positions on this.
Bled, I agree with everything you say, except that I think Quis should be in the starting linup at 2, with Finley at 3. We need the ballhandling and playmaking ability. I really do believe that it is the Mavericks call on this. They have what it takes to make this deal happen, if it doesn't happen, it's because the Mavs chose not to. And as a Mavs fan, I'm cool with that. This team has more young talent than ever. Devin Harris, Marquis Daniels, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, DJ Mbenga. All have all-star potential, it will be great to see them develop on a team that's a true contender. The rumors of Baron Davis wanting out makes a little more sense to me than Kidd, since he is younger, and would fit into our development over the next seven years. He'd be the best point guard in the league playing for the Mavs. Another point on Nash, he was my favorite player, and the heart of this team. Unfortunately, he was probably the worst defensive player in the league, by a mile. As hard as it is to accept, this team could not develop into a team with an NBA championship caliber defense with Nash as it's leader. As much as Cuban talked about wanting to resign Nash, the drafting of Devin Harris should have been a warning to all Mavs fans that the team was going in another direction.
Just a little something that's been bugging me about Jason Terry... I like the Mavs, and their style of play...and I think Nowitzki/Nash were awesome...but I just don't know why Cuban would pick up Jason Terry to play the point. Really guys, he's not a true point guard considering he doesn't have the court awareness and the passing ability...he'd be better off an SG in my opinion. I know he makes $7.2 million...so why not send him and a $4 million player for Baron Davis?
Realdealbneal, you are one of the only two people on this board that think B. Dizzle can play point gaurd like a true point gaurd. Well I'm the other one, and Baron Davis does make a lot of sense but, Cubans already said he's done dealing and The Hornets said their not gonna part ways with him and well you gotta just play with the hand that your dealt with. But were not lookin' at a 2,7 here, I say we got us a full house and I like our chances now. As for Kidd, Bled your hittin' it right on the nose. But Quis' should start IMO.
I know what Cuban say, and you really can't trust it. If a trade makes sense, it will be made. But I also think Jason Terry will have a breakout year with the Mavs. True, he may not be a true point, but he can shoot. Him running the pick and roll with Dirk 25 times a game will be awesome, plus he'll run the court and be a great defender. The Mavs don't really need a true point guard since everyone can handle the ball, and they move the ball a lot with passes. Nash didn't become great until Nelson taught him to shoot first. Terry will play a lot like Baron Davis in Dallas.
First off, thanks for the comments guys. Since this topic is about arguably the best PG in the game coming to Big D, I should've expected talk about other possibilities at that spot. Here's my thoughts on them: Jason Terry - Never was a very good shooter, but besides Shareef Abdur-Rahim (who's scared of him?), he never really had a solid second option. This past season, I believe he shot about 41% from the field with a good free throw shot that stood strong at little over 80%. His 3 point shot isn't anything to be reckoned with though... With the attention barely being on him for the first time in his career, I predict that if he knows when to pass and when to shoot, he might shoot around 46% from the field. Baron Davis - Nice player. Looks to me like he's a Shooting guard in a Point guard's body, though. I don't think the Mavericks need that. They need an unselfish player with a pass first, shoot second mentality. Reports are that he's 'unhappy' with New Orleans. With Cuban trading away the roster every summer, we don't need a guy complaining about not wanting to be here. Thats just my thoughts on him... ---------------------------- We really just need a guy that can bring the ball up the court. I've heard bad things about Terry from ATL fans in the past... They all tell me that he turns the ball over alot in crucial situations. That isn't good... During the playoffs, there are alot of games where we were in crucial situations. He averages somewhere around 3 turnovers per game, so I'm hoping he'll cut that down and make better decisions on the floor with alot more talent around him this year.
You got me thinking about Jason Terry compared to Steve Nash. Remember that Jason Terry signed an offer sheet with Utah, only to be matched by Atlanta. He didn't want to be in Atlanta, and his numbers dropped off as a result. So lets look back over the last four years for both players. Over the last four years: Nash Terry Turnovers 2.6 2.7 Steals 0.8 1.6 Assists 7.7 6.0 Points 16.0 18.5 Shooting% .475 .425 3Pt% .415 .375 FT% .900 .860 Rebounds 3.0 3.8 Not that big a difference. Obviously Steve Nash's Turnover ratio and shooting percentage is among the top couple players in the league, but Terry's numbers are very, very good, probably placing him in the top ten among point guards. I expect Terry's assist numbers to go up in Dallas, but the biggest difference between the two comes on the defensive end. Terry is ten times better than Nash on defense. I'm looking forward to seeing what Terry can do next year. Remember, Eric Dampier and Jason Terry have never played for a team that has made the playoffs, and now they are playing for a team that is one of the top contenders to win a championship. Let's see how they raise their games.
I gotta say, anyone that takes Kidd's contract on has to either have plenty of salary cap room and a belief that his knees arent as bad as they appear or be very desperate. Its not that I dont like him.. I would love to see him on a high output offensive team, but the knees combined with the money make him a very dicey gamble at best. better to stick with terry and not have to worry about the money and the knees.
