As we've heard numerous times, Allen Iverson doesn?t have much left in him. And as much as we hate to hear this, it?s is in way a true. But that?s another story; the fact is that the clock is ticking on him as well as other franchise players of their respect teams such as Kidd and Webber. But let just say that Iverson plays for another 6 Years or so and retires after then OR gets traded... Where does this put the 76ers once the Allen Iverson era comes to in end? For starters we have promising young players in Willie Green, Samuel Dalembert, Kyle Korver, Andre Iguodala and hopefully John Salmons. And by the looks of that we have a pretty solid foundation to build on. Pending on their development, hopefully they can keep the 76ers on the map. Obviously, there are missing pieces to this future ?team?, but somehow and someway I?m assuming that they will get those other parts down the road. But my question is will this future 76er team of core players like Green and co, every be good enough to make a name for themselves in the NBA? And how do you feel in a whole about the future of the 76ers? However, in a way it may be too early to make a rightful assumption about this team. Dalembert, showed us some promise last season no questions ask. But judging by the look of his physique, if he doesn?t bulk up, he could be very vulnerable to injury now or in the near future. And we have yet to see Andre Iguodala play in a 76er uniform. But all in all these guys have a promising future nonetheless, so how good really is this group of young guys?
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Avery:</div><div class="quote_post">As we've heard numerous times, Allen Iverson doesn?t have much left in him. And as much as we hate to hear this, it?s is in way a true. But that?s another story; the fact is that the clock is ticking on him as well as other franchise players of their respect teams such as Kidd and Webber. But let just say that Iverson plays for another 6 Years or so and retires after then OR gets traded... Where does this put the 76ers once the Allen Iverson era comes to in end? For starters we have promising young players in Willie Green, Samuel Dalembert, Kyle Korver, Andre Iguodala and hopefully John Salmons. And by the looks of that we have a pretty solid foundation to build on. Pending on their development, hopefully they can keep the 76ers on the map. </div> Salmons and Korver are already proven themselves, I think they will be able to keep Philly on the map. Dalembert is a good quaility player and is still young and delveloping I think in the next 2-3 years he will be a top/dominat big man in the East. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post"> However, in a way it may be too early to make a rightful assumption about this team. Dalembert, showed us some promise last season no questions ask. But judging by the look of his physique, if he doesn?t bulk up, he could be very vulnerable to injury now or in the near future. And we have yet to see Andre Iguodala play in a 76er uniform. But all in all these guys have a promising future nonetheless, so how good really is this group of young guys?</div> Sometimes size dosent matter, Allen has provent that, but I see your point being that he is a big man, hes still young, he'll prove him self more.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">Sometimes size dosent matter, Allen has provent that, but I see your point being that he is a big man, hes still young, he'll prove him self more.</div> He has the size, but it's about all about his "bulkiness". He's playing the Center position, which is one of the most physical positions to play in alongside the PF?s position. And he's going to have to do things from boxing out, finding position to get the ball etc. So he's going to need to start bulking up, or the game might start getting too physical for him, and he just may break down before we even know it.
The Sixers right now are at least looking toward the future,we have plenty of young players who are going to get a lot of oppurtunities early in their careers(players like Willie Green,Salmons Korver,Sammy). But right now i am putting the future/future franchise title to,Samuel Dalembert,nowdays to win your going to have to have a quality bigman.Sammy D could be the player for us,he is young athletic and plays with the style of Deke with more offensive game,once he develops a consistant 15ft J and post up skills ,he is right up there with Jermaine Oneal IMO. In the future we will have bright role players to build around Sammy,Willie Green and Andre Iguodala are the Sixers who will most likely be playing with us in the future,not to mention the Sixers will have the money to sign a big name player this offseason.
<div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">But right now i am putting the future/future franchise title to,Samuel Dalembert,nowdays to win your going to have to have a quality bigman.Sammy D could be the player for us,he is young athletic and plays with the style of Deke with more offensive game,once he develops a consistant 15ft J and post up skills ,he is right up there with Jermaine Oneal IMO.</div> Samuel Dalembert? I know for a fact that he will unquestionably be a key player for this team in years to come, but labeling him as the franchise player is pretty farfetched imo. Dalembert doesn?t have the credentials to be a franchise player nor will he ever. He still has yet to develop a basketball player mentality and is still learning how to play basketball. He picked up the sport of basketball at a very late age, and let?s face it, if it wasn?t for his size, and those long arms of his he wouldn?t even be playing in the NBA right now. The most likely candidate for the franchise player of this team is?nobody. At this point there is no clear cut player to be labeled as the franchise player. Each player can and will contribute in their own way. Each player will chip in and do their part, similar to what the Pistons are doing right now.
The future of the Sixers in my mind will be just like the 2001 team that went to the finals. Dalembert will be the dominating defensive center like past favorites such as Mutombo and Ratelff. Green will play the roll of Allen Iverson being the great scorer and team leader that always comes through big time when needed hits clutch shots, and just is a great influence on the team. Iggy will be that second option that will stay here consistantly and be a good scorer as well as defender with his defense he will bring what George Lynch and Tyrone Hill brought to the table. Then John Salmons will be the future Aron Mckie considering the talent that we have at the three it is unlikely unless a lot of people are traded or injured that he will start, but he is versitale, and would be able to do what aron mckie does and play a little point when needed, 2 guard, and small forward making his roll a larger than if he just played small forward. I do not see Korver having a future in Philly just my opinion, but he is too one dementional, and the depth at that position will make minutes hard to come by. Though because he is a good shooter he will find a second contract with some team, and probably return to Philly later in his career like a lot of players do (Ollie, Skinner, etc). He will also be a valuable trade peace for the team if they choose to go in that direction. I do see AI being a vocal part of our team for years to come in his later days becoming what reggie miller has become for the Pacers a guy who has accepted that for the team to continue to grow he needs to let younger guys have more shots. I think that a lot more talented players will make there way through Philly in the future after the AI era, but right now thats how it looks to me.
The Sixers have young talented players, but so do most teams in the NBA, and I'd venture to say other teams have better future talent than what the 76ers currently have. The team will only be as good as Iverson can take them for the next 3 seasons. The 76ers have the fourth highest paid salary in the league and their cap figure will not be at a favorable level until the 07/08 season, when they will shed the salaries of Todd Macoullough, Corliss Williamson, Marc Jackson, and possibly Brian Skinner. Based on their player moves they seem to be poised to make another run at he post-season. The 76ers do have the depth to fight for the 7th or 8th seed in the East this year. However, the team does not have another star to play alongside Iverson or to step up if AI gets hurt again. Willie Green played very well last season, but I don't see him being an impact player in the league and having the on court fire Iverson plays with. Unfortunately for the 76ers this has been the case for most of Iverson's career. Big Dog was supposed to be the second scoring option for them, but he has been a bust thus far, and his only value to the team appears to be his $12M contract coming off the books next year. Most of it will probably be used to re-sign Dalembert and maybe one other solid role player to add to the roster. I disagree with Korver not being a key player for the 76ers. First off, they will be able to offer him the most money and he is a fan favorite. There are not many consistent shooters left in the NBA, and Korver is a weapon for any team. I think he's a vital piece for the 76ers future because of his ability to hit the 3 ball. He's only going to get better with his skills the longer he's in the league and could turn out to be a consistent 12 to 15 PPG contributor.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I disagree with Korver not being a key player for the 76ers. First off, they will be able to offer him the most money and he is a fan favorite. There are not many consistent shooters left in the NBA, and Korver is a weapon for any team. I think he's a vital piece for the 76ers future because of his ability to hit the 3 ball. He's only going to get better with his skills the longer he's in the league and could turn out to be a consistent 12 to 15 PPG contributor.</div> The reason I don't see Korver with a real long term future with the team is do to the following. First off, although we can offer him the most money why would the team want to get into a bidding war with other teams for him when they have a player like John Salmons, Iggy, and Arron Mckie who has been a consistant vetern for the team for a while. Lets just pretend that this situation happens they let Salmons go in free agency since I think he is the firs tto hit free agency they let him go because of Korver , and Iggy. Then the next to hit free agency is Korver they would let him go, because like you said a lot of teams would be intrested in his serves do to him being a shooter, and they already have a all around player like Iggy. A reason I dont think Salmons will be let go when he hits free agency is do to the fact he is a home town Philly native and is some what a fan favorite. Then added with the depth that the Sixers have at the small forward slot with them always seemingly getting a new second option for Iverson who plays the small forward, and Iggy as well as Salmons minutes will be few and far between for Korver. Taken into account that he will be in a rotation with those two players added with veterns like Arron Mckie who sometimes plays the small forward along with the point and 2 as well as others players that the sixers may get along with Brown if he is still here. I do hope Korver stays, but I dont see that happening do to him being just a shooter. Although, shooters are rare in the NBA now a days a main key for a shooter to be successful is to have a team that passes the ball well and draws double teams to give him open shots the Sixers are not that at this point unless Dalembert puts on a few pounds of muscle. You see that Peja is successful, but the Kings usually average like 20-25 assists per game do to there fast passed tempo along with great passers like Mike Bibby, C-webb, and bobby jackson, as well as before this season Divac. To repeat what I said earlier I hope Korver stays, but I dont see him being a 12-15 point consistant scorer for the team with so many people at the rotation.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The 76ers do have the depth to fight for the 7th or 8th seed in the East this year. </div> Are you sure about that statement? thats kind of low considering the only threats in the East are Pistons,Pacers, and the Heat, because New Jersey is falling apart with the loss of Kmart and kittles so we dont have to worry about them anymore, and the teams in the sixers division are as folows:New Jersey,Toronto,NewYork and Boston, so lets go ahead and cancel out New Jersey they will have a mediocre season, so then there is Toronto which have been having alot of trouble over the years, and vince still wants out and they really havent required many players this offseason to make them better so cancel them out, then there is boston that only has Pierce which probably be pretty good the only team ithink will give us a run im not sure though havent been keeping up with them, the main team we have to worry about is New York so if we can get over Newyork we will have our Division which will give us atleast the 3 spot in the east..and our division is not that good. Now on the KK situation i think he will be very good for us when he starts to develope, and get more playing time, but I think he will get traded or something before we can let him fully develop, but i would love to have him coming off the bench for a couple of years, he could be one of Iversons other scoring options who knows, but the way billy king works you never know who is going to be there or not the next year, he loves making big deals, KK might even be traded this offseason. I hope we keep him though, like you all said he is one of the few pure shooters in the league. Korver is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the league and he was only a rookie and almost won the 3pt shootout that really impressed me, I think this guy has a bright future in the NBA.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting TheAnswer3:</div><div class="quote_post">Are you sure about that statement? thats kind of low considering the only threats in the East are Pistons,Pacers, and the Heat, because New Jersey is falling apart with the loss of Kmart and kittles so we dont have to worry about them anymore, and the teams in the sixers division are as folows:New Jersey,Toronto,NewYork and Boston, so lets go ahead and cancel out New Jersey they will have a mediocre season, so then there is Toronto which have been having alot of trouble over the years, and vince still wants out and they really havent required many players this offseason to make them better so cancel them out, then there is boston that only has Pierce which probably be pretty good the only team ithink will give us a run im not sure though havent been keeping up with them, the main team we have to worry about is New York so if we can get over Newyork we will have our Division which will give us atleast the 3 spot in the east..and our division is not that good. Now on the KK situation i think he will be very good for us when he starts to develope, and get more playing time, but I think he will get traded or something before we can let him fully develop, but i would love to have him coming off the bench for a couple of years, he could be one of Iversons other scoring options who knows, but the way billy king works you never know who is going to be there or not the next year, he loves making big deals, KK might even be traded this offseason. I hope we keep him though, like you all said he is one of the few pure shooters in the league. Korver is one of the best 3 pt shooters in the league and he was only a rookie and almost won the 3pt shootout that really impressed me, I think this guy has a bright future in the NBA.</div> I think the absence of Snow is going to take it's toll on this team, similar to how the Magic did when they lost Darrell Armstrong. Those type of players are invaluable for a team, and it takes time adjusting without them. The teams I put ahead of them right now are: Detroit Indiana Miami New York Milwaukee Boston Washington Philly The reason I put Philly at the 7 or 8 is the health concerns of AI. I'm not sure if he can play an 82 game season with the style of play he brings. I think the Wizards are going to surprise a lot of teams this year in the East. They have quietly put together a solid roster of players and a consistent 20ppg scorer in Jamison. Kwame Brown is in his contract year, so I expect him to finally bust out as well.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the absence of Snow is going to take it's toll on this team, similar to how the Magic did when they lost Darrell Armstrong. Those type of players are invaluable for a team, and it takes time adjusting without them. The teams I put ahead of them right now are: Detroit Indiana Miami New York Milwaukee Boston Washington Philly The reason I put Philly at the 7 or 8 is the health concerns of AI. I'm not sure if he can play an 82 game season with the style of play he brings. I think the Wizards are going to surprise a lot of teams this year in the East. They have quietly put together a solid roster of players and a consistent 20ppg scorer in Jamison. Kwame Brown is in his contract year, so I expect him to finally bust out as well.</div> There is no way Washington wil lbe a higher seed in the east then philly, i mean come on, the cavs have a better chace to do that, and your list is incorrect..because of the way they are seeding this year..Indiana and detroit cant be the 1 and 2 seed because they are in the same divison and the top 3 spots are for the teams that win their divison which philly should do. So the top seed might look like this.. Detroit Miami Philadelphia i dont know if they are much more to say about this..but the sixers will definilty rank higher than Wizards, and probably boston, and if they dont win their division i think they will get the 5 seed at the least..oh well we will have to wait a see shape. EDIT: i dont know how the loss of Eric Snow will effect the team sure they will miss his leadership but, i think iverson will do fine running to point for us..because he has good court vision and can handle the ball very good..so it might work out good for us and it might, it might have been the best move ever. but i will mis snow.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Sixers have young talented players, but so do most teams in the NBA, and I'd venture to say other teams have better future talent than what the 76ers currently have. The team will only be as good as Iverson can take them for the next 3 seasons.</div> That true. After, the Iverson era comes to end as you projected in another 3 years or so, the Sixers will be done. But looking at players like Dalembert, Green and Iguodala at the peak of their careers which is probably in another 5-6 years or so, they should be pretty good players and hopefully be that solid foundation in which the organization can work off of. <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">The 76ers do have the depth to fight for the 7th or 8th seed in the East this year. However, the team does not have another star to play alongside Iverson or to step up if AI gets hurt again.</div> You're whole theory is based on if Allen Iverson gets hurt again . So, what is your take on if he stays healthy throughout the season? Also, no need to decrease the credibility of your statement but it's a no-brainer that if AI gets hurt the Sixers are done. This also applies for teams with one major star player such as the Heat for example. If they're star player is out with an injury (Shaquille O'Neal), the team is out. So I can pretty much rank the Heat under the 76ers, if Shaquille O?Neal gets hurt. Btw, the 76ers were contenders for the 7th and 8th seed last season without Allen Iverson. So logically speaking I don?t see no reason why the 76ers can?t contend for the 6th seed at best with an much more improved revamped roster even w/o Allen Iverson in the picture. If Iverson is the mix, I see them getting the 3rd seed at best. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post"> I think the absence of Snow is going to take it's toll on this team, similar to how the Magic did when they lost Darrell Armstrong. Those type of players are invaluable for a team, and it takes time adjusting without them.</div> I completely agree with you on that. The Sixers will miss Eric Snow dearly. From his ability of taking care of the ball, and guarding some the leagues best perimeter players, he will be missed indeed. However, Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady are two completely different players. If Tracy McGrady is the star that he?s hyped up to be he would take it upon himself, to try and provide what Armstrong brought to the team instead of waiting to get the ball and shooting it. While, on the other hand you have Allen Iverson a much more experienced player and passionate player. He knows what is at stakes and is aware of the changes that have been made. Not to mention, he will no be playing the PG role in which now he can be floor leader. If Tracy McGrady was placed at this position or given this role, he would be the floor leader and in a way ?guide? the team other than Tyronn Lue the player whom even admitted that?s he?s not capable of leading a team. The Magic still wouldn?t do well, but they would have done a little better than what they ultimately did. But even if Allen Iverson won?t fully be able to fill in Eric Snow shoes. I do know for a fact that he will do a MUCH better job at replacing Snow opposed to what Tracy McGrady did down in Orlando in terms of replacing Armstrong.
I was just naming teams, there was no paticular order. I'm not sure if the Cavs will be in the running this year after losing Boozer. They have yet to replace his impact on the court. I wouldn't overlook the Wizards, they have 4 quality players in their starting lineup and they did a nice job of adding some size to their bench. PG - Arenas SG - Hughes SF - Jamison PF - Brown C - Haywood Bench - Hayes, Thomas, Dixon This team has a lot offensive punch with the addition of Jamison to run the break with Hughes and Arenas. Last season this team was terrible, especially on the road with only 8 wins. However, they had to deal with injuries the entire season with Arenas being out, and then Hughes. The 76ers might have a better post-season roster, but I would argue the Wizards will fair better in the regular season because of they have 3 capable scorers. The combination of Arenas and Jamison almost led the Warriors into the playoffs a couple of years back in the West. They played close to .500 ball, and I see no reason why they can't do that this season.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the absence of Snow is going to take it's toll on this team, similar to how the Magic did when they lost Darrell Armstrong. Those type of players are invaluable for a team, and it takes time adjusting without them. </div> Yeah we will all miss Snow, but his departure from the team was something needed for the team to continue to grow and progress with its youth. Armstrong when he left the Magic left on a bases that he and the Magic could not come to terms on a new contract the Magic did not have all the young talent at the time that the Sixers have now that is already set. The Magic had Vaughn and a unproven Bogans they did all they could to hold on to Armstrong until they saw the contract terms would not be reached. Also the Magic where a one man team with Mcgrady and a one man leader team with Armstrong. Although, Snow always was a huge leader on and off the court here in Philly we have players who can be just as good leaders it is not like he was our only leader we have a good mix of veterns like Mckie still on the team. Also players like Jackson who are leaders in the locker room and in the community. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The teams I put ahead of them right now are: Detroit Indiana Miami New York Milwaukee Boston Washington Philly The reason I put Philly at the 7 or 8 is the health concerns of AI. I'm not sure if he can play an 82 game season with the style of play he brings. </div> I would not put Boston over Philly, nor Washington, and New York and Philly are a toss up at this point for the division crown. The Wiz have put together a good team I will give them that, but its all young players kind of like the Bulls, and that will cost them in the long run they have no vetern leaders. If we base everything on youth, talent, and potential the Bulls would be pretty high up there as well. You say that you based that Philly will be low because of AI's health issues yet Pierce has been known to have a few injuries in the pasat as well, and if he gets injured Boston loses there leading rebounder, assists man, and scorer. Basically almost every team in the East have the one man that leads there team and if he getsinjured they go back to the lottery. I think that the Sixers will not have to deal with a injured AI this year, because he has had a good conditioning off season and recovered well. Even if AI does get injured I believe the team can still hold on and play decent for the short stretch he would be hurt do to the fact he missed 30 something games last year the team learned how to perform when he is out and where in the playoff run till the last week of the regular season added with the new talent they aquired. I am also not sure if I would put the Bucks over Philly. Philly stole one of there key big men this off season when they signed Skinner. The guy that the Bucks got to replace him Zendon Hamilton is a hard worker and may perform well there, but at this point that was a major upgrade for the sixers and down grade for the Bucks. Added with the lose of Damon Jones for the Bucks that will hurt them big time, and the fact that Ford will be out for the start of the season apparently. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think the Wizards are going to surprise a lot of teams this year in the East. They have quietly put together a solid roster of players and a consistent 20ppg scorer in Jamison. Kwame Brown is in his contract year, so I expect him to finally bust out as well.</div> The Arenas Jamison combo showed it can win games in the west, but still failed to make the playoffs getting I forget what 41 wins that would make them like 7 or 8 seed in the East. Then subtract Jason Richardson, and what do you have? A team that will be a little hard pressed to get over 41 wins. Brown will have to play hard, but with his incosistancy he would not be a consistant scorer and number three option, nor is Hughs who is also very inconsistant. Then they have no veterns either. I personally think they will have a good season, but will not get over a 7th seed in the playoffs this year. Also going back to the thing I said before in your rankings in the east. The division is a toss up between them and the Knicks at this point, but if they do win the division which is not a long shot they get a automatic third seed at least which then puts them ina good position to advance in the playoffs. I do not see them slipping to a 7th or 8th seed.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post"> I would not put Boston over Philly, nor Washington, and New York and Philly are a toss up at this point for the division crown. The Wiz have put together a good team I will give them that, but its all young players kind of like the Bulls, and that will cost them in the long run they have no vetern leaders. If we base everything on youth, talent, and potential the Bulls would be pretty high up there as well. </div> I would not compare the situation with the Bulls and Wizards at all. The Bulls have never come close to a winning season since they've tried to build around Curry & Chandler. Jamison will be the veteran presence for the Wizards coming into his 7th season. They also added Peeler to the roster and Samaki Walker. Both have post season experience, and Peeler has always been able to hit the clutch shots in big games. Walker is a scrub, but at least he adds some post season experience to the team and can shine his championship ring around. Like I said, I think Philly has a better playoff roster, but regardless if Iverson is healthy or not, they will struggle on offense. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post"> You say that you based that Philly will be low because of AI's health issues yet Pierce has been known to have a few injuries in the pasat as well, and if he gets injured Boston loses there leading rebounder, assists man, and scorer. Basically almost every team in the East have the one man that leads there team and if he getsinjured they go back to the lottery. I think that the Sixers will not have to deal with a injured AI this year, because he has had a good conditioning off season and recovered well. Even if AI does get injured I believe the team can still hold on and play decent for the short stretch he would be hurt do to the fact he missed 30 something games last year the team learned how to perform when he is out and where in the playoff run till the last week of the regular season added with the new talent they aquired.</div> You can say that for almost every Eastern team, because most of them are an injury away of being out of the post-season. The 76ers have a solid roster and will be a force come playoff time because of all the depth they have. They have a lot of role players who are capable of coming into a game and presenting mis-match problems. However I'm not sold on this team in the regular season because of their inability to score. In the regular season, defenses are more lax, and a strong offensive team can usually go further because of the ability to score points. The Wizards have three players capable of scoring 20 ppg, so when one is having an off night one of the other two can carry the offensive load. Although Iverson doesn't have many off nights, who's going to take pressure off of him on Philly? I envision the Wizards playing a very uptempo style similar to what the Nuggets did last season. This style produces great regular season results, but struggles in the post season. Arenas, Hughes, and Jamison all excel on the break, and with an athletic big man in Kwame Brown they will be hard to slow down. The energy they get from making big plays on offense, should carry over to their defense. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post"> I am also not sure if I would put the Bucks over Philly. Philly stole one of there key big men this off season when they signed Skinner. The guy that the Bucks got to replace him Zendon Hamilton is a hard worker and may perform well there, but at this point that was a major upgrade for the sixers and down grade for the Bucks. Added with the lose of Damon Jones for the Bucks that will hurt them big time, and the fact that Ford will be out for the start of the season apparently.</div> The Bucks will miss Skinner, but it opens the doors up for Haislip to step in and produce for them. And they added former 76er Zendon Hamilton. Damon Jones was great for the Bucks last season, but I think he benefitted from the system more than his talent. The Bucks have added Mike James & Mo Williams to hold down the PG spot until Ford is healthy enough to be the starter. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Pure Skillz:</div><div class="quote_post"> The Arenas Jamison combo showed it can win games in the west, but still failed to make the playoffs getting I forget what 41 wins that would make them like 7 or 8 seed in the East. Then subtract Jason Richardson, and what do you have? A team that will be a little hard pressed to get over 41 wins. Brown will have to play hard, but with his incosistancy he would not be a consistant scorer and number three option, nor is Hughs who is also very inconsistant. Then they have no veterns either. I personally think they will have a good season, but will not get over a 7th seed in the playoffs this year. Also going back to the thing I said before in your rankings in the east. The division is a toss up between them and the Knicks at this point, but if they do win the division which is not a long shot they get a automatic third seed at least which then puts them ina good position to advance in the playoffs. I do not see them slipping to a 7th or 8th seed.</div> Well they failed to make the playoffs because they were in the West. The strength of the West was insane, even the Rockets with Yao & Francis couldn't make it to the post season. Put the Warriors in the East that year and they would easily be in the post season. This team might not have Jason Richardson, but he hadn't come into his game until last year. With Arenas & Jamison he averaged 15 PPG, and I think Hughes can match the numbers and impact Richardson had for the Warriors. Hughes is also a better passer and can defend just as well. Add to that, the fact Arenas is not a rookie anymore. He will be entering his third season and will be even better this year than he has done the previous two. I think the dropoff of the Nets will open the doors even more for this team and make them a bonafide contender to go with Knicks & 76ers.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I would not compare the situation with the Bulls and Wizards at all. The Bulls have never come close to a winning season since they've tried to build around Curry & Chandler. Jamison will be the veteran presence for the Wizards coming into his 7th season. They also added Peeler to the roster and Samaki Walker. Both have post season experience, and Peeler has always been able to hit the clutch shots in big games. Walker is a scrub, but at least he adds some post season experience to the team and can shine his championship ring around. Like I said, I think Philly has a better playoff roster, but regardless if Iverson is healthy or not, they will struggle on offense. </div> The Wizard did not come very close to making the playoffs last year with Arenas either though they got off to a good start. Though the bulls have had a little longer while they have taken time to develope, and did have that one season where they had a great home record, bnut road games cost them. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">You can say that for almost every Eastern team, because most of them are an injury away of being out of the post-season. The 76ers have a solid roster and will be a force come playoff time because of all the depth they have. They have a lot of role players who are capable of coming into a game and presenting mis-match problems. However I'm not sold on this team in the regular season because of their inability to score. In the regular season, defenses are more lax, and a strong offensive team can usually go further because of the ability to score points. The Wizards have three players capable of scoring 20 ppg, so when one is having an off night one of the other two can carry the offensive load. Although Iverson doesn't have many off nights, who's going to take pressure off of him on Philly? </div> I keep wondering who this third player that can score 20 points ona given night is? Is it Hayes because although he is agood he is inconsistant. Hughs does not have the greatest jumper, and is also inconsistant scorer he may be able to score 20 here and there, but it will not be with a great shooting percentage, then Brown is not shown the ability to be able to score 20 on a given night. Though it is a contract year that does not mean he will perform great it is just a little added insentive. Also who cnan take the pressure off of AI. Willie Green he had big games when he got minutes last season to the late stretch. Jackson had a few stretches where he averaged 12 points last serasons o if he stays healthy he will be a factor, Robinson can score is probably his biggest asset that being his ability to score, and then there is Dalembert, Korver, Salmons, and Mckie who can all give you double digit scoring if they are hot. Mckie can basically give you at least 10 points if he is healthy and when AI is out he is a force who can score 20. Also players like Williamson will give them even more socring , and Iggy they are a single unit very capable of scoring there big weakness last year was reboundign which they improved y getting Skinner. Thomas is also capable of scoring I remember a game either last season or late in the season before where he had a 20 and 15 game he is a good scorer that can give you at least 13 a night on a consistant bases. The Sixers have two guys right now that can score 20 a nigth, and then have like 10 that can possibly score double digits on any given night so I do not see them having a trouble scoring. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I envision the Wizards playing a very uptempo style similar to what the Nuggets did last season. This style produces great regular season results, but struggles in the post season. Arenas, Hughes, and Jamison all excel on the break, and with an athletic big man in Kwame Brown they will be hard to slow down. The energy they get from making big plays on offense, should carry over to their defense. </div> The Nuggets had a good core of shooter on the other hand though while neither Hughs, nor Brown have great shots. The Nuggets had Miller, Lenard (three point shoot out champ, melo, and NeNe who can hit a mid range jumper a bit consistanly. As well as guys like White and Barry coming off the bench. The Wiz have three good shooters who could be possible starters Hayes, Arenas, and Jamison. While having one consistant shoote roff the bench in Peeler who may get injured leaving then with Dixon who has not proven he will be a consistant threat. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Bucks will miss Skinner, but it opens the doors up for Haislip to step in and produce for them. And they added former 76er Zendon Hamilton. Damon Jones was great for the Bucks last season, but I think he benefitted from the system more than his talent. The Bucks have added Mike James & Mo Williams to hold down the PG spot until Ford is healthy enough to be the starter. </div> Although, all those guys they aquired have the potential to produce they have not proven they will though while these have. So right now you can not really say they upgraded by these aquirements. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Well they failed to make the playoffs because they were in the West. The strength of the West was insane, even the Rockets with Yao & Francis couldn't make it to the post season. Put the Warriors in the East that year and they would easily be in the post season. </div> Yeah they where in the west, but it is not like they did not play eastern teams. Although, they will play them more often now the east is much improved with players like Shaq and Wallace now in the conference. As well as new rookies that came in, and signings in general. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">This team might not have Jason Richardson, but he hadn't come into his game until last year. With Arenas & Jamison he averaged 15 PPG, and I think Hughes can match the numbers and impact Richardson had for the Warriors. Hughes is also a better passer and can defend just as well. Add to that, the fact Arenas is not a rookie anymore. He will be entering his third season and will be even better this year than he has done the previous two. I think the dropoff of the Nets will open the doors even more for this team and make them a bonafide contender to go with Knicks & 76ers.</div> Hughs may pass and defend, but he is not as consistant as J Rich is, and through the past he has not shown he can be a center piece for a team to build around. J Rich also has a much better jumper than Hughs does, and Hughs many times believes he is better than he really is, and shoots more often than he should. As far as getting Peeler and Walker goes. Like you said Walker is a bum. Also even though Peeler has had playoff experence how much can you really depend on either of these two has when they went into the teams that they where in the teams like the Kings, lakers, heat already had a playoff setup offense though peeler played a slightly importnat roll for the kings Walker was not used and when he was it was sparengley.
I think Hughes is the third player capable of going for 20 ppg on any given night. He went for 20+ in 25 games last season and 19points in another 6 games. He averaged 18.8 ppg last season despite a poor shooting percentage. However prior to last season, he did shoot 46.7% from the field and with Jamison and a healthy Arenas I think he will get better looks at he basket. I'm not comparing Hughes to Richardson, but I think he can do just as good for the Wizards as Richardson did playing alongside Arenas & Jamison. Richardson has yet to prove he can be a franchise player either. He's not even close to being as good a passer as Hughes, and he's not a consistent defender at all. Which is why the Warriors brought in Pietrus. He's a better shooter than Hughes, but I don't think the Wizards need Hughes to be a perimeter threat. Arenas provides the frontcourt with perimeter offense, and Hughes can focus on slashing and creating for teammates. The Wizards have plenty of shooters on their squad. Arenas, Jamison, Dixon, Hayes, and Peeler are all gunners. None are as good as what Denver had because of Lenard and Barry. But still good enough to extend a defense and hit plenty of 3 pt shots. All the players you listed are capable of scoring double digits, but Iverson will need to sacrifice more this season for any of them to be another threat. Is Iverson going to be the starting PG for the 76ers next season? If so will he be able to transform his game into more of a passer, or will his shoot first mentality hurt the offense more? I think the 76ers have a dilemma on their hand because players like Korver, Williamson, and Thomas do better in a halfcourt set offense. I'm just not sold on Iverson being able to make his teammates better on a consistent basis. McKie is a good player, but he's not getting any younger, and he started to show his age last season. Big Dog and Kedrick Brown are two wild cards for the 76ers. Big Dog will have less pressure from O'Brien to play defense like he had with Larry Brown. He is a great scorer still, but he needs a lot of touches to be effective and I'm not sure he will get them with Iverson shouldering the offensive load every night. Kedrick Brown could be a nice spark off the bench if he ever gets his head straight and focuses on playing basketball instead of being a knucklehead. Regarding the new Bucks, prior to last season Damon Jones had done nothing, and the Bucks were predicted to finish last in the league by some experts. Like I posted already, I think Terry Porter's system is the difference maker, and I think James or Mo Williams can fit right in at PG for them.
<div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">I think Hughes is the third player capable of going for 20 ppg on any given night. He went for 20+ in 25 games last season and 19points in another 6 games. He averaged 18.8 ppg last season despite a poor shooting percentage. However prior to last season, he did shoot 46.7% from the field and with Jamison and a healthy Arenas I think he will get better looks at he basket. I'm not comparing Hughes to Richardson, but I think he can do just as good for the Wizards as Richardson did playing alongside Arenas & Jamison. Richardson has yet to prove he can be a franchise player either. He's not even close to being as good a passer as Hughes, and he's not a consistent defender at all. Which is why the Warriors brought in Pietrus. He's a better shooter than Hughes, but I don't think the Wizards need Hughes to be a perimeter threat. Arenas provides the frontcourt with perimeter offense, and Hughes can focus on slashing and creating for teammates. </div> Considering how bad a shooting percentage that Hughs had last year to just reach 18.8 points. This was with just Arenas shooting sinc eStackhouse was out most of the season with Jamison coming in this year this will take at least 15 to 20 shots away from Hughs. The pressence of Jamison and Arenas may give Hughs better looks at the basket, but if he can not hit a consistant perimeter shot, and has a mediocore mid range game what is to say he will hit does shots when he attempts them less times than he did last season with the same percentage his scoring is bound to go down. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">The Wizards have plenty of shooters on their squad. Arenas, Jamison, Dixon, Hayes, and Peeler are all gunners. None are as good as what Denver had because of Lenard and Barry. But still good enough to extend a defense and hit plenty of 3 pt shots.</div> Dixon and Peeler are both good shooters, but neither do it as often or as a coach would like do to lack of minutes. With them aquiring Jamison who plays the small forward Hayes minutes will also decrease meaning that he wont get many shots up either so with those taken into account they are back to two shooters Arenas and Jamison. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">All the players you listed are capable of scoring double digits, but Iverson will need to sacrifice more this season for any of them to be another threat. Is Iverson going to be the starting PG for the 76ers next season? If so will he be able to transform his game into more of a passer, or will his shoot first mentality hurt the offense more? I think the 76ers have a dilemma on their hand because players like Korver, Williamson, and Thomas do better in a halfcourt set offense. I'm just not sold on Iverson being able to make his teammates better on a consistent basis. McKie is a good player, but he's not getting any younger, and he started to show his age last season. </div> He may no longer be young, but showed he can still do it as he lead the team in three point feild goal percentage last season, and scored 20 a couple of times when AI was out when AI and Big Dog was out him and Snow where our leading scorers. Also Mckie showed he can score double digits when he won sixth man in the 2001 year which happened to be the one AI won mvp in so he has been playing with AI for a while and knows how to adapt his game. As far as will AI be able to sacrafise I think yes he has shown a very good understanding of what will be required from him this off season, and has matured greatly. He was also a point guard his earlier days in the league before LB turned him into a shooting guard he just has to regress his ways back to that which he played his rookie season. It will take him a while to get use to the pressure, but I think he can and will distribute the ball well. he has done it in the all sdtar games the past couple of years when he played point he had 9 assists last year. <div class="quote_poster">Quoting shapecity:</div><div class="quote_post">Big Dog and Kedrick Brown are two wild cards for the 76ers. Big Dog will have less pressure from O'Brien to play defense like he had with Larry Brown. He is a great scorer still, but he needs a lot of touches to be effective and I'm not sure he will get them with Iverson shouldering the offensive load every night. Kedrick Brown could be a nice spark off the bench if he ever gets his head straight and focuses on playing basketball instead of being a knucklehead. Regarding the new Bucks, prior to last season Damon Jones had done nothing, and the Bucks were predicted to finish last in the league by some experts. Like I posted already, I think Terry Porter's system is the difference maker, and I think James or Mo Williams can fit right in at PG for them.</div> In your first paragraph in this quote I am sure Robinson will get his touches his problem will be can he finish the seaosn with the team and stay healthy. he averaged 19 last season, and scored 20 points the season before in a offense where he shared the ball with two other scorers Terry and Abdual Raheem. I also like I said before believe AI understands his new roll and will distribute the ball well. As far as the Bucks go oyu are very right on that, but either way even if we take that into accounts these are new players so it goes back to being pure speculation if we say they will fit in well, and match the previous guys numbers. Terry poerters system may work well for these players, but who is to say that these players will work well for the system as James when he was in Boston liked to shoot a lot, and Mo may have trouble hanging on to the ball in extended minutes of play.
Well that's just it, Hughes only shot poorly last season, and the main reason was the fact Arenas and Stackhouse were injured. He was the first option on offense and he couldn't handle it. I don't expect Hughes to average 20 PPG for the duration of the season, but I just wanted to point out he can go for 20 on any given night for the Wizards. As the third or fourth option this upcoming season, he won't face double teams and defensive pressure. He will have room to operate one on one, which is what he's good at. This will allow him to take his defender off the dribble instead of settling for the jumper or low percentage layups against 2 defenders. I think Jordan recognized the team needed to add a shooter so he went out and got Peeler. Jordan will have a better idea of how to utilize his roster this season and hopefully the Wizards can stay healthy and execute for him, because Jordan is a quality coach who knows how to win with very little. As far as the rotation for the Wizards, I think they will play Kwame at center a lot during games. This will allow Jamison to play PF and put a very quick team on the floor. Again this is also a make it or break it year for Kwame. He played great basketball early in the season last year. He was scoring, rebounding, and blocking a lot of shots. With this being a contract year, he has a lot of motivation to play at high level and consistently. It's a historical fact players do their best in contract years and the success of a player is usually measured in his third season. Last year AK47 had a breakout season in his third year as did Michael Redd. I'm predicting Kwame finally silences his critics this season. Even if Hayes is not on the court as much, Arenas & Jamison can extend a defense by themselves. They can extend it out enough to allow penetration by Hughes or Arenas to slash to the hope and score or dish or at least get to the line.