The Most Dominating Player?

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  1. SupraJames

    SupraJames JBB JustBBall Member

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    This question pertains only to the player of their respective eras. I don't care if you think Kobe would've kicked MJ's ass or Shaq would've destroyed Wilt. I'm only talking about the competition at the time of the said player. Who do you guys think? Fire away.

    My personal choice is Michael Jordan followed closely by the Olajuwon. There was nobody that could stop MJ in his era. Big guy nor guards. No double nor triple team. He was just unstoppable by himself driving, shooting and dunking on people. He basically dominated the league in every possible way.

    You can make a case for Shaq, but look what happened when he was playing against Olajuwon. He got tooled like a little kid.
     
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    Michael Jordan Hands down. He is and always will be the greatest player there was. Even through Pain and Sickness he would still find something within him to play well. I dont care if Kobe or Lebron are gona be the next MJ. No one will ever compare to the Great Mj. No Kobe or Lebron or even Shaq can stand up to what he has done and im sure he would beat any player in there prime one on one even blind folded!
     
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    I would say Wilt Chamberlain by far. Second would be Shaq, and then Jordan. Shaq in in his MVP year was the most dominant any player has been over the competition since the early 60s with Wilt.

    Also, I think people make too much about Shaq being schooled by Olajuwon. I'm a huge Olajuwon fan, but keep in mind that he was at the absolute peak of his offensive game, and Shaq was only in his second year. Shaq also shot a much higher percentage from the field, had more assists, and more rebounds. Olajuwon also took 11 more shots PER GAME than Shaq. It's no wonder he average more points in the series. Of course, in the end Hakeem's team won in a sweep, so people say he outplayed Shaq. The numbers simply don't reflect that. If anything, its a wash.

    Olajuwon:
    32.8 ppg, 11.5 rpg, 5.5 apg, 48.3% from field, 2 spg, 2 bpg, 29 fga/g,

    Shaq:
    28 ppg, 12.5 rpg, 6.3 apg, 59.4% from field, .25 spg, 2.5 bpg, 18.5 fga/g
     
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    50's: George Mikan
    60's: Wilt Chamberlain
    70's: Julius Erving
    80's: Magic Johnson
    90's: Michael Jordan
    00's: Shaquille O'Neal (so far)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting Chungster:</div><div class="quote_post">
    70's: Julius Erving
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    Kareem was MVP 6 times during that decade...Surely he would be considered more "dominant" than Erving
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Kareem was MVP 6 times during that decade...Surely he would be considered more "dominant" than Erving</div>

    Yep, I agree that Kareem was the MAN in the 70s. The NBA version of Dr. J was actually fairly toned down. He was the most exciting player of his time, without question, but I wouldn't call his play "dominant." At the center position, Kareem was in a league of his own for nearly the entire decade. Moses started to approach him near the end.
     
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    Karma The Will Must Be Stronger Than The Skill

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    <div class="quote_poster">Quote:</div><div class="quote_post">
    50's: George Mikan
    60's: Wilt Chamberlain
    70's: Julius Erving
    80's: Magic Johnson
    90's: Michael Jordan
    00's: Shaquille O'Neal (so far)
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    I would agree with this list aside from the 70's. It should definetly be Kareem.
    As for the 80's, I think it's a toss-up between Larry Legend and Magic. Sure, Magic won more titles but Larry was very dominating in his own rights. Of course, people are more likely to say Magic cause he played a more complete game. On second thought, Magic did own the 80's. Larry comes a close second.
    90's= No doubt, MJ.

    2000-2003= Shaq.

    Tim Duncan is slowly on the path to being more dominating then Shaq. I don't care what anyone says, in 2 years, I'd rather have Timmy on my team than Shaq. Actually, I'd rather have Timmy then Shaq now (considering if Shaq still plays the way he did last year).
    If the 'revitalized' Shaq plays well this year, he is still the 'M.D.E' for the millenium, but he will decline soon enough. Tim Duncan will surpass him after he retires or in his (Shaq's) declining years (which are about to start soon).
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting spawn:</div><div class="quote_post">I would agree with this list aside from the 70's. It should definetly be Kareem.
    As for the 80's, I think it's a toss-up between Larry Legend and Magic. Sure, Magic won more titles but Larry was very dominating in his own rights. Of course, people are more likely to say Magic cause he played a more complete game. On second thought, Magic did own the 80's. Larry comes a close second.
    90's= No doubt, MJ.

    2000-2003= Shaq.

    Tim Duncan is slowly on the path to being more dominating then Shaq. I don't care what anyone says, in 2 years, I'd rather have Timmy on my team than Shaq. Actually, I'd rather have Timmy then Shaq now (considering if Shaq still plays the way he did last year).
    If the 'revitalized' Shaq plays well this year, he is still the 'M.D.E' for the millenium, but he will decline soon enough. Tim Duncan will surpass him after he retires or in his (Shaq's) declining years (which are about to start soon).</div>

    The only thing Magic has on Larry were the championships, in my opinion. Until the late 80s, I think Larry was considered the better player. He had won three MVPs in a row, before Magic won even one. Once Magic started scoring over 20 points a game, hand his team continued winning championships, he started getting his own MVPs. As far as their individual game, though, I'd rank Bird slightly ahead of Magic. Also, when Magic was peaking in the late 80s, I'd rank Jordan ahead of him in terms of sheer dominance. I guess I'd say that Jordan was to Magic what Wilt was to Russell. Magic had the superior team game, and won the championships, whereas Jordan was the new kid on the block just dominating the competition individually with his brilliant offensive skills.

    Also, I don't think Duncan dominates the competition the way Shaq does. Between Duncan and Garnett, its a virtual wash right now. But there's no one even close to Shaq's class as an inside force, even at this stage in his career. Shaq demands more attention from the defense than any player in the league, and that's why I'd say he's by far the most dominant of his generation.
     
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    50's:mikan
    60's:Wilt
    70"s: Dr.j
    80's: Bird
    90's:Hakeem or Jordan
    00's:Shaq'
     
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    this is mostly rpeitition but this is no question the right answer
    50's Mikan(just over...Bob Petit and Bob cousy i guess)
    60's Chamberlin(runner ups..no one)
    70's kareem(Dr. J and Oscar Robertson are close)
    80's Bird (Magic, MJ,)
    90's Jordan (Shaq)
    00's Shaq (Duncan, KG)
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting notMuchgame:</div><div class="quote_post">Kareem was MVP 6 times during that decade...Surely he would be considered more "dominant" than Erving</div>


    I have to agree. Doc was only, what I would call dominating, in his ABA days but was never close to that level in the NBA.
     
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    [quote name='Hendrix']

    60's Chamberlin(runner ups..no one)
    no runner ups aye? what the hell about bill russell?
     
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    50's-George Mikan, bob pettit
    60's-big dipper, russell
    70's-kareem
    80's-magic, larry legend
    90's-MJ, hakeem the dream is the runner up
    2000-2004-shaq, duncan
     
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    For about two to three years in the 90's I would say Hakeem. He was just dominate and he was taking out awesome centers to (David Robinson, Ewing, Matumbo). I would have to say overall Larry Bird was the most dominate becaus he could do anything and everything on the court, a complete player.
     
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    Who do y'all think is going to be the '010's most dominating player? I think it will be Lebron James, definitely. Anthony, Wade, and/or Bosh will be 2nd tier.
     
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    Jumpman And Your Nominees Are...

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    My prediction is Kobe, now that he has his own team. And with Shaq out of the way.
     
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    Its not going to be Lebron. Maybe Tony Parker lol.
     
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    if tony parker will be the most dominating player in 2010 then ben wallace is the best offensive player there has ever been. i think emeka or dwight howard will be really dominating in the future because both of them have such seriously terrific talent.
     
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    <div class="quote_poster">Quoting elijahser:</div><div class="quote_post">if tony parker will be the most dominating player in 2010 then ben wallace is the best offensive player there has ever been. i think emeka or dwight howard will be really dominating in the future because both of them have such seriously terrific talent.</div>

    Emeka isn't talented offensively. I don't think he'll end up being much more than a marginal All-star, if that.
     
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    For the 010's I'll say Kevin Garnett or Jermaine O'neal.
     

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